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Post subject:  Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:11 am |
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senapanaga wrote: sword and shiled + nuking is too complex for me.
I like using one soul spear, and nuke. Instead of nuke, kd, stab, lion shout, and all that mess.
Takes up too much room on my hotkey bars xD.
Anyway.... lol. If you can find a good set-up on your F1-F4 bars then be a sword/shield nuker. I prefer spears.
Yah you should just use a bot instead so things dont get to complicated for ya.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:25 am |
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My normal technique against mobs with no range attack is fire nuke and if that don't kill them just add a KD when they get close. About 1/2 the time I get the kill before they get in 1st strike. Either way nuke+kd equals kill. Once I close the gap and get bk 2 fire nuke wont even need the KD. For giants nothing beats KD/stab.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:21 am |
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Wats better for nukers...fire imbue or lightning imbue???
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:05 pm |
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a kd nuker might be able to beat a glaiver often, but will it probably lose to blade or what?
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:46 pm |
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its all about your gear, +s, sos, blues......its all about the gear.
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MasterPuxxy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:28 am |
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The Ultimate S/S nuker PVP quick button slot set!
middle button of mouse, phantom
1. fire imbue
2. 3rd book kd
3. 2nd book kd
4. 2nd book stab (always use 2nd book first, its quick, so you always complete 3 stabs)
5. 3rd book stab
6. Heaven Chain
7. fire nuke second book
8. light nuke (tiger)
9. 3rd book lion shock
0. 2nd book lion shock
Thats the control!
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icechai
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:51 am |
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MasterPuxxy wrote: The Ultimate S/S nuker PVP quick button slot set!
middle button of mouse, phantom
1. fire imbue
2. 3rd book kd
3. 2nd book kd
4. 2nd book stab (always use 2nd book first, its quick, so you always complete 3 stabs)
5. 3rd book stab
6. Heaven Chain
7. fire nuke second book
8. light nuke (tiger)
9. 3rd book lion shock
0. 2nd book lion shock
Thats the control!
sorry buddy, but if you don't have a vigor potion in there, i don't see how you can survive vs some of the stronger hitters. Also firewall is great for getting out of double/triple teams. lose the lion shocks i would say  oh and what if you want to keep your wolf alive? lose lightning nuke then 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:25 am |
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Problem is, to kill str with int sword you NEED to be farmed. And once you got the last stab book, you can't farm effectively.
Fire spear is efficient with masteries 63 and helps farming.
I'm going both sword and spear and since my farming isn't over, I pvp with spear. And listen to Icechai when he says you have to know when to cast you firewall, he's probably one of the most efficient users of this skill.
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MasterPuxxy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:43 am |
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I am farmed
Blade 70, ice 68, fire 70, light 70, spear 20
Thats all maxed!
all the skill maxed!
I don't need vigor to suvive!
When I kd, My HP back to almost full! also my HP is 7.3 k!
(everything +5 str, +5 int!)
and I have some sos!
Also I got decent shield +7 br 18! (block help a lot)
so I can survive easily!
I killed a glav sos +7 several time today! the guy hardly get a chance to hit me!
I kill him in 13 sec!
kd + 3 stab, kd + 3 stab then a heaven chain! he died!
I have full HP!
Well, its on luck sometimes! sometime you kd failed 3 times in a row
then just phantom and nuke! when he run close then kd! (btw Dragon won't hit you hard! )
P.S. I am talking about PVP, where does survive wolf come from!
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:38 pm |
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k master, no one doubts you can pwn. +5 everything and some sos? o_O yeah, sword/shield w/ sos and super gear are very VERY deadly and almost impossible to kill. Wit that being said, my post was aimed at normal non sos users and +3-+5 int some str and +3 gear.
Also, have you seen some good wolf users pvp? lvl 70 wolf does 700 damage per hit on non sos wearers... so versus a int, that can mean instant death after following up your attack. BadKing is a great wolf user in Troy. Haven't seen many others who can keep their wolves alive and let it be effective..
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:02 am |
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MasterPuxxy wrote: naw!
I am full farmed lvl70 pure int! I think that qualified to answer this question!
Based my experience, Sword/Shield>>>>>>Spear.
You have kd+3 stab and blocks, save you a lot of life!
Spear is so easy to die, indeed spear has about do a little bit more dmg which is less than 700 dmg during PVP. 700HP for a pure str glav or blade = nothing! Especially, when you fight with blade without block and high defence, maxed (and unstopable) kd + 3 stab = death! you need at least 3 hit to kill a farmed blade, during that time, he already kd you for numrous times. and everytime he kd you, he will recover a lot HP, and you suffer a lot from his 3 stab. Trust Sword/Shield is nessessary. And especially after you maxed kd and 3 stab, you can fight with glav easily!
BTW, you need a lot of str stone, to push your HP to 7k at least then to max sword skill. before that. leave your spear skill 60lvl, so you have enough HP!
My char Blade 70, ice 68, lighting 70, fire 70, spear 20!
HP 7100, MP 13900! Maggic Balance 113%!
Also to compare top weapon:
SOS +7 spear with +61% maggic has cap maggic attack 1349.
SOS +7 sword with +61% maggic has cap maggic attack about 1270 (when mine is +5, the maggic attack is 1255.)
So about 700 dmg difference!
WOW how much did you have to sp farm? lol 70 blade, fire, and light is a ton let alone ice 68!! That sounds like... 200k sp? About? 
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MasterPuxxy
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:30 am |
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IguanaRampage wrote: MasterPuxxy wrote: naw!
I am full farmed lvl70 pure int! I think that qualified to answer this question!
Based my experience, Sword/Shield>>>>>>Spear.
You have kd+3 stab and blocks, save you a lot of life!
Spear is so easy to die, indeed spear has about do a little bit more dmg which is less than 700 dmg during PVP. 700HP for a pure str glav or blade = nothing! Especially, when you fight with blade without block and high defence, maxed (and unstopable) kd + 3 stab = death! you need at least 3 hit to kill a farmed blade, during that time, he already kd you for numrous times. and everytime he kd you, he will recover a lot HP, and you suffer a lot from his 3 stab. Trust Sword/Shield is nessessary. And especially after you maxed kd and 3 stab, you can fight with glav easily!
BTW, you need a lot of str stone, to push your HP to 7k at least then to max sword skill. before that. leave your spear skill 60lvl, so you have enough HP!
My char Blade 70, ice 68, lighting 70, fire 70, spear 20!
HP 7100, MP 13900! Maggic Balance 113%!
Also to compare top weapon:
SOS +7 spear with +61% maggic has cap maggic attack 1349.
SOS +7 sword with +61% maggic has cap maggic attack about 1270 (when mine is +5, the maggic attack is 1255.)
So about 700 dmg difference! WOW how much did you have to sp farm? lol 70 blade, fire, and light is a ton let alone ice 68!! That sounds like... 200k sp? About? more than that!! ABOUT 250k sp at least!
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:33 pm |
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MasterPuxxy wrote: IguanaRampage wrote: MasterPuxxy wrote: naw!
I am full farmed lvl70 pure int! I think that qualified to answer this question!
Based my experience, Sword/Shield>>>>>>Spear.
You have kd+3 stab and blocks, save you a lot of life!
Spear is so easy to die, indeed spear has about do a little bit more dmg which is less than 700 dmg during PVP. 700HP for a pure str glav or blade = nothing! Especially, when you fight with blade without block and high defence, maxed (and unstopable) kd + 3 stab = death! you need at least 3 hit to kill a farmed blade, during that time, he already kd you for numrous times. and everytime he kd you, he will recover a lot HP, and you suffer a lot from his 3 stab. Trust Sword/Shield is nessessary. And especially after you maxed kd and 3 stab, you can fight with glav easily!
BTW, you need a lot of str stone, to push your HP to 7k at least then to max sword skill. before that. leave your spear skill 60lvl, so you have enough HP!
My char Blade 70, ice 68, lighting 70, fire 70, spear 20!
HP 7100, MP 13900! Maggic Balance 113%!
Also to compare top weapon:
SOS +7 spear with +61% maggic has cap maggic attack 1349.
SOS +7 sword with +61% maggic has cap maggic attack about 1270 (when mine is +5, the maggic attack is 1255.)
So about 700 dmg difference! WOW how much did you have to sp farm? lol 70 blade, fire, and light is a ton let alone ice 68!! That sounds like... 200k sp? About? more than that!! ABOUT 250k sp at least! Yeah...you are about right on the 250k guess.
My question is...Master, what are you planning for after the cap raise to 80 (and possibly 90+ in the future)?
I mean...70+70+70+68+20=298/300. Are you planning to delvl one of your skills? If so, which one?
Just curious...for personal reference.
Thx
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Build : Pure INT | Nuker
Weapon : 52+5 Spear - Full Blue
Gear : 5th Dgr SoSun+3 | 6th Dgr SoS/M+3 | 7th Dgr SoS+3 - Armor - Full Blue
Guild : L33T_G33X {LVL 5 -- Recruiting Active Players - 35+}
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:47 pm |
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Baugar wrote: MasterPuxxy wrote: IguanaRampage wrote: MasterPuxxy wrote: naw!
I am full farmed lvl70 pure int! I think that qualified to answer this question!
Based my experience, Sword/Shield>>>>>>Spear.
You have kd+3 stab and blocks, save you a lot of life!
Spear is so easy to die, indeed spear has about do a little bit more dmg which is less than 700 dmg during PVP. 700HP for a pure str glav or blade = nothing! Especially, when you fight with blade without block and high defence, maxed (and unstopable) kd + 3 stab = death! you need at least 3 hit to kill a farmed blade, during that time, he already kd you for numrous times. and everytime he kd you, he will recover a lot HP, and you suffer a lot from his 3 stab. Trust Sword/Shield is nessessary. And especially after you maxed kd and 3 stab, you can fight with glav easily!
BTW, you need a lot of str stone, to push your HP to 7k at least then to max sword skill. before that. leave your spear skill 60lvl, so you have enough HP!
My char Blade 70, ice 68, lighting 70, fire 70, spear 20!
HP 7100, MP 13900! Maggic Balance 113%!
Also to compare top weapon:
SOS +7 spear with +61% maggic has cap maggic attack 1349.
SOS +7 sword with +61% maggic has cap maggic attack about 1270 (when mine is +5, the maggic attack is 1255.)
So about 700 dmg difference! WOW how much did you have to sp farm? lol 70 blade, fire, and light is a ton let alone ice 68!! That sounds like... 200k sp? About? more than that!! ABOUT 250k sp at least! Yeah...you are about right on the 250k guess. My question is...Master, what are you planning for after the cap raise to 80 (and possibly 90+ in the future)? I mean...70+70+70+68+20=298/300. Are you planning to delvl one of your skills? If so, which one? Just curious...for personal reference. Thx Well, One I will lower blade, fire, light to 69 lvl, and delete the spear skill (actually only passive increase HP)
I will start to add str. And who knows if the mastery cap will raise or not! if not, then (lets say 80 cap) blade 79, cold 68, light 69, fire 80. Also you don't know the new skill, I know about the fire 4th nuke so fire will go 80 for sure. etc. its not sure thing!
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:52 pm |
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Baugar wrote: Yeah...you are about right on the 250k guess.
My question is...Master, what are you planning for after the cap raise to 80 (and possibly 90+ in the future)?
I mean...70+70+70+68+20=298/300. Are you planning to delvl one of your skills? If so, which one?
Just curious...for personal reference.
Thx
Wouldn't they be raising the ammount of masteries too?
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