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Nope, I used to think that the Xbox controller was better, but after like 10 minutes playing with the DualShock I got used to it. Now the Xbox controller just feels fat and awkward.

Since a LONG time, but still, I don't think it's gotten to the point where DRM needs to be put in place.

Ever heard of a mod chip?

Yeah, I know there's some piracy on it.
but it requires modifying your console, which in is a pain to begin with.

but what I meant was that there's way too few people doing it to actually bother with DRM, there's just no point in it...

edit:
r/goingtohell on e3

Just heard of "The Division". It looks

Trailer

Gameplay

The Division didn't really strike me as that awesome of a game, but one thing absolutely did impress me: The mics feature a walkie-talky-like effect and that is something that should've been in games years ago.

I'm not sure why division didn't impress me much, but I think it might be ubisoft's style getting a bit repetitive. Ever since AC most of ubi's big titles have stuck close to AC in style and genre.

While division still looks like a good game, I'd like to see ubisoft try something new again :/.
And I'm not a fan of the new rayman games. I want a real rayman 4 T_T. Origins was nothing like they promised in the beginning, there was no story at all T_T

I thought the division looked awesome, if only it had zombies or monsters.

I honestly don't care as long as that DRM doesn't require me to install DRM ontop of DRM. That's levels of retardation. Preferably I wish all games just ran off the exe.



Their DRM is, at least f2p as far as I can tell, they can require PS+ or not. I don't see the purpose of requiring PS+ though.

EA removed online passes more likely in hopes that both consoles had CD keys on the discs. EA made the bet and one went for it. Sony was thinking about it, but once that #PS4noDRM was being spammed Sony realized it was a terrible idea then it was settled. See Adam Boyes on Giantbomb


And about EA making a better game, I hate to say it, but what they ahve shown off looked decent rather than the typical cawadooty clone. EA having a new CEO mightve been something EA really needed to change direction. However, Bioware is out of control and needs to die.



Console games are pirated multiple weeks before getting on the PC at times. It always has issues, but it just has been a very small minority. Piracy to publishers is the used market. That's a loss in a sale, but if someone does the research I'm sure it's not as harmful as they think it is. Potential future customer, word of mouth, and so on. Mod chips and firmware updates make the entire thing insanely easy. PC games on the other hand, despite being shit DRM protection, get cracked a few days later unless it's plain Steam DRM then it's like a few hours after it unlocks. That's simply because it has different type of precautions in every other game where it has to be reversed engineered everytime unlike a console game.

Though the best act against piracy is just making a product everyone is willing to pay up for and not keeping the price at $60 for years. The problem about dropping a price so quickly is the brick and mortar stores vs digital.

You know what I find funny?

In all of the Sony kicking Microsoft's ass, I don't recall a single thing that Nintendo is known to have done at E3. Welcome to obscurity Nintendo.

Typical Nintendo games since 3rd party support has been lost again. I'd love to play Wonderful 101, but not buying a Wii-U type of love to play.

This I want to hear since i literally can't think of a single innovation from ms.

You're wrong on the controllers, they dualshock controller is the final evolution thus far of controllers and they were the first.

Saturn released a month before PS ( crappy console ), that in no shape or form takes away from PS spearheading a field.

The PSP was the first 3d portable console with full media features that I can remember, if that doesn't count as innovation then the iPhone doesn't either.

Not looking up the Dreamcast deal but yeah.

At first I thought that was the ingame characters talking lol. Very cool.

@Toshiharu, its more than last console though! i think that was nintendos biggest point of this e3, not that they got all the 3rd party support but they have at least a lot more than last time!!! however i do expect support to drop off after a year or two =(

Pen still waiting to hear those ms innovations.

-spying on people, no console has done that before.
-kinect's ability is innovative, its a more advanced itoy but the advancements are actually what make it used in lots of other ways then just gaming (ie. modeling, 3d and even in medicine)
-the friends list and group gaming was brought together by microsoft.
-halo launched fps's multiplayer for console as a competative game. (unless you count LAN goldeneye)
-clickable analog sticks (not sure if this was the first...)
-pressure sensitive d-pad
-HD gaming
-wireless controller integration
-media center interface

but microsoft has been around for only 12 years whereas sony has been around for 19 years.

I'd give credit to the power glove before kinect ¬.¬.

Pretty sure PS2 had pressure sensitive buttons and clickable joysticks.

Wireless controller is hardly innovative and I doubt xbox had it first.

I'd say there's been lots of fps with multiplayer before Halo as well >.>. Counter Strike off the top of my head?

I don't think Xbox can be credited for inventing friend lists. Certainly not group gaming.

I thought so too until I saw that the [AFK] guy came in for a short period and then said he had to go.

The only problem I will have with the game is not having anyone to play with

Lol you're retarded, how did I not expect exactly this.

I think both playstation and microsoft havent pushed the boat out too much when it comes to console gaming but i would lean towards playstation having a bigger impact than the xbox as a whole.
if you want to argue otherwise, please dont come off like a fan boy and just call people retarded, at least ive explained my opinion but there's no explanation of anyone elses.

It makes sense, it really does, but you can't take away things even as little as they may. Majority of people hate change and so do I despite having a massive Steam collection.

The "cloud" is nice, but I certainly wouldn't enjoy when the servers get delayed for whatever reason either my internet stutters or their servers go crazy and then ruins my gameplay experience. I don't have much to complain about this, because it's actually nice. Having multiple servers running in the background doing some tasks is nice to free up things that your own hardware can do. It's just not the right time when a single player game requiring online connections. There is never a need in any time that a single player game needs to talk to any server. Never.

Trying to make the disc nearly worthless is silly. They have sentimental value to most people as a collection and if your account consumes the 1 time use of it, then what's the point? PC games have been like that for over a decade so where it's something we're used to, but as a console collection? It's a huge different story.

Kinect 2.0? I'll say this over and over, it's extremely neat of the tech they've shown. It's able to detect your moods, easier for mocap for people that can't afford the big studios, heart rate, and so on. The problem is nobody gives a shit for it as in video games. That's where Microsoft hasn't learned it. A very small minority only find it useful and fun outside of Kinect developers.

24 hour check in? Again change and they're losing out on a huge market for such a draconian DRM because of used games they're trying to eliminate. They could have kept it the same if digital sales are cheaper, but the problem with that is when you have B&M stores whining and crying about how they won't make money which is why Steam can shine. You go to your local store, you don't see a copy of Rising Storm, Witcher 2, Company of Heroes 2, and so on. They can't whine about what they don't carry. Digital sales being the DRM of being locked into the account would have been better than making the used discs worthless. Top it off, if my internet is out for the next year, I still can log into Steam with any problems. That's a thing they overlooked. I can see why they did 24 hours, if it was a week then I buy the copy and return it without logging in for a week to beat the game for free.

TV. That's a funny thing, it's neat but nobody will buy the console purely for TV features. They announced it at the wrong time. If your gaming console is not a media hub, you still should focus on your main target audience aka gamers. They farked up the initial release and I don't care if at E3 they showed off games. You cannot recover from the "TV TV TV TV TV" anytime soon. Nobody bought the 360 so they can pay $60 to watch Netflix. People bought PS3s for Bluray, because it was cheaper and better than the $800 bluray players at release. That's another thing Microsoft is overlooking. The market buying it as a bluray player is veeeeeerry slim now you can get it for <$100.

There are a lot of things that could have been great but just poorly communicated on what I should accept it. Though looking through the lines it's still horrible due to the restrictions that these 'features' impose. Microsoft doesn't realize that. They saw Steam, as mentioned, and realized that's an easy market that they should go after. Much like Kinect with Wii. Those posts from Microsoft devs are delusional. It's not going to go over smoothly for a year or two.

Oh yeah...I don't know how many of you go on reddit... but There was a very interesting post on reddit about a woman who got fired from a small MS owned company thing.

She talked about some basic company marketing strategies that are common in all big companies and quickly got 'hunted down' (they had the wrong person and then she admitted she herself had made the post). The original post she made got deleted.
thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments ... ring_this/

Anyway she something very interesting in the about microsoft's marketing strategy. She said that she saw many employees post positive stuff about the xbox one on reddit. Then later it was revealed that the reason she was banned was because MS had been preparing their big wave for monday, and her revealing this information was very bad for their plans. So essentially it's monday now, and MS has planned to spam EVERY place with positive messages about the xbox in order to fake a turnaround and change the general opinion (a lie told many times becomes a truth). The employee's post firing post quickly got deleted as well.
thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments ... leblowing/

I'll try to scavenge what I can. But guys, be wary of what your read right now. I'd like to hear if you guys suddenly notice a big XO-positive vocal 'minority'.

Scavenge complete:
Thread 1: http://pastebin.com/8f66f0Xn
Thread 2: http://pastebin.com/y80EHF1T

We have to stop looking at the XB1 from a purely gaming standpoint remember when the wii outsold the 360 and ps3 by nearly double because they did something innovative and sold to a new family market. (http://mynintendonews.com/2011/01/14/ni ... -december/) If xbox can sell to families they will shit all over ps3's sales.

The issue is where you innovate.
The wii had big improvements on previously successful gaming mechanics (the duckhunt rifle)
The xbox has a previously failed gaming mechanic (eye-toy) and TV.

Additionally the xbox screws over the gamers in almost every possible way. Thus the only logical conclusion is that Xbox just wants to be a TV now.

I'll save all my judgement until 6 months after release, everyone I know basically bought and xbox 360 off the bat because it was cheaper and seemed better at E3 2-3 years later they all wish they had gone with the ps3. In theory the xbox seems like a fail but when it goes into practice it could be revolutionary and they just sucked at explaining their idea's.

I doubt it. They're like 10 years way too early. The change is too much for the generation though with your typical frat boy playing Madden, Halo, and CoD it doesn't matter. It won't matter to the new generation that actually grows up in a stable environment of technology.

Elsewhere in the world it's a blunder. Though who knows, I won't be surprised if it's still failing in 3 years. Sony did a complete 180 with the PS3 and that's something I do not see Microsoft doing.

I'd be willing to bet that xbox comes out on top with more sales, people who watched E3 and pay attention to gaming in general will switch but xbox has a super committed fanbase.

So does Nintendo, but look at the Wii-U.

Nintendo has pokemon fans.

They have more fans than Pokemon.

but a large majority are pokefans or LoZ fans.