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LOL it's not my equation. It's Silkroad's source code which is 100% correct.

I'm not going to teach basic fundamental math in this forum. Just FYI, parenthesis and order of operations are very important to correctly solve a problem.

Here's how you do the math:

(1.02^(X - 1))*((X - 1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02^(2 - 1))*((2 - 1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02^(1))*((1)*4+20)*10)

(1.02)*((1*4+20)*10)

(1.02)*((24)*10)

(1.02)*(240)

= 244.8

Let me know which step above confuses you.

Don't take my word for it, pasted the equation
(1.02^(2 - 1))*((2 - 1)*4+20)*10)
into google and google will say you are wrong too :)

Also, your memory is wrong... go create a character, kill 3 mangyangs and level up and I guarantee you your HP will not be "210" nor "204".





I hope you are doing well in your "Calculus" class lol.



FYI, Im doing very well in Calculus. In fact, I can take a picture of my grades and you'll see what it looks like. (That is if you really want me to take a picture of it which will kill my time).

As for the equation I replied to test the equation you provided, I missed a parenthesis which completely messed it up, so that was my fault.

But yet, I do, however, recall you saying that you "reversed engineer" the game thus from what I understood, you came up with the equation on your own. And yet, on your latest post, you claim that you didnt make these equations but rather googled it.



LOL You are quite slow. Yes, the source code algorithm was obtained directly from the game thru reverse engineering. And I translated that computer algorithm to a human math formula.

Just to let you know, Google has a built in calculator. Just paste in that math equation and google will do the calculation for you and spit out the answer. Get it? Kind of suprised you haven't figure that out already after I have made it abundantly clear. I guaranteed you wouldn't find that formula anywhere on google. This is the first time it has ever been posted anywhere. :wink:


And I'm not interested in seeing a picture of your grades. I already have an idea of how excellent your math and comprehension skill is already :)


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ThiefzV2 wrote:
Don't take my word for it, pasted the equation
(1.02^(2 - 1))*((2 - 1)*4+20)*10)
into google and google will say you are wrong too :)

Also, your memory is wrong... go create a character, kill 3 mangyangs and level up and I guarantee you your HP will not be "210" nor "204".
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google has a caclulator you put math formula in, it solves it. notice how he said "pasted the equation..... into google and google will say you are wrong too", that means paste the equation into google and it will do the calculations for you.


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lame thread.. isro will never have a 150 cap, lol.. the top cap we could ever expect would be like 100 maybe..

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its sunday and you people are talking about math???? whats wrong with you :!:

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like 2106-2107

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This whole thread is pointless. As HP goes up, damage goes up. You didn't see any pure nukers hitting 10k in PvP when they were level 50 and you won't see them hitting 10k in PvP when they're level 150, either. That only applies to certain equipment configurations between 6x and 8x (ish? who knows until cap raise?).



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:shock: :shock: wtf makes u think pure int only do 10 k damage to pure str on 150 lvl do they only add hp by lvling up after 80 ? no wep and defent items upgrade? u fking noob :D


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MastaChiefX wrote:
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here is how it goes down
.1111(repeating)= X
X * 10 = 9.99(repeating)
10X - 1X= 9
9 / 9 = 1
So .99(repeating) = 1.

Just basic fundamental math.

x = 0.9999(repeat)
10x = 9.999(repeat)
10x-x = 9.999(repeat)-0.999(repeat)
9x = 9
x = 1


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Omg tell me you all have no idea what your talking about?

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Here's another fundamental math lesson:

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Here's another fundamental math lesson:

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Lol, I love this one. I would say the best math lesson I've ever had.


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if only math makes me laugh that hard or concieve it that well, maybe i wouldn't have failed 1st grade math :banghead:


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Are you guys having like a nerd-gasm or nerd-rection?


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Thanks zphantom, I posted this at like 2 in the morning so my brain was dead.

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zphantom wrote:
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ok
here is how it goes down
.1111(repeating)= X
X * 10 = 9.99(repeating)
10X - 1X= 9
9 / 9 = 1
So .99(repeating) = 1.

Just basic fundamental math.

x = 0.9999(repeat)
10x = 9.999(repeat)
10x-x = 9.999(repeat)-0.999(repeat)
9x = 9
x = 1


This is completely wrong........

Now, say put a limit to how much it 99999 repeats, say 10 9's because if you have an infinite 9's, and you multiply that by 10, your decimal 9's is infinitiy - 1 (infinity minus 1) because multiplying the number by ten moves the decimal point once to the right.

What does that mean? Ok, here's how it goes, its very hard to explain unless you put a limit to infinity. But Ill try to explain it this way....

X = 0.999999999 (repeating to infinity sets of 9)
10X = 9.999999999 but the decimal 9's is one less than infinity because you moved one of them to take place of zero.
So....

10X - 9.999999 which is the same thing as 9.999999999 (repeating except decimal 9's is one less than infinity) - 0.99999999 (repeating to infinity).

Which means, you are subtracting 0.999999999 (repeating to infinity) from 9.9999999999 where the .9999999999 is one less than infinity.

What you will always get is 8.9999999999999991 where 9's are repeating to infinity minus 1. which is not equal to 9 unless you round it.

So 8.99999999999999991 where 9 is repeating to infinity minus 1 is not equal to 9 thus X is not equal to 1 because 9X is not 9.

Want me to explain this by limiting the number of 9's?

Okay, here it goes.

Lets just do five set of 9's pretending that infinity is five.

X = 0.99999 (count how many 9's I have)
10X = 9.9999 (count how many 9's again, and count how many are after the decimal point. This shows that if there was an infinite number of 9's, when you multiply it by ten, your new decimal 9's is one less than infinity)
10X - X (lets put in the numbers on this one)
9.9999 - 0.99999 = 8.99991 (like I said, you will always get that number where the set of 9's is always going to be one less than infinity which is correct, our infinity was 5 and how many 9's do we have? 4)
So 9X is not 9 but rather 8.99991 or if the 9's where repeating to infinity then 9X is equal to 8.99999999999999999999999999999999999991 where 9 is repeating to one less than infinity
And because 9X = 8.99991 in this case, X = 0.99999 not 1. So X is the same value as it was before, it didnt even change.

Prove me wrong, I'd like to see what you come up with. Unless you guys were just messing with people, I guess you dont have to prove me wrong. But then again, if you didnt get what I said (explained) then you probably will not agree with my proof. But it is 100% CORRECT


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 Post subject: Re: Over 90k HP without Bonus?
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whatever they say I'll go 1:2 int hybird.

+1. my build gets stronger every lvl.


and mine :roll:

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you are doing something VERY wrong if you get weaker with a level up XD


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whatever they say I'll go 1:2 int hybird.

+1. my build gets stronger every lvl.


+2 going hybrid myself but deciding on sword or spear can't decide

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Looks like these guys are mathio maniacs or something!!! :P


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you are doing something VERY wrong if you get weaker with a level up XD


ROFL so true.

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Prove me wrong, I'd like to see what you come up with. Unless you guys were just messing with people, I guess you dont have to prove me wrong. But then again, if you didnt get what I said (explained) then you probably will not agree with my proof. But it is 100% CORRECT


Have fun with this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999...


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Prove me wrong, I'd like to see what you come up with. Unless you guys were just messing with people, I guess you dont have to prove me wrong. But then again, if you didnt get what I said (explained) then you probably will not agree with my proof. But it is 100% CORRECT


Have fun with this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999...


Holy crap! Wikipedia has it? Haha, I use that site a lot and yet, I love ^^^ that one. I'd love to prove whoever made that algebraic proof that c = 1 when it is not. OMG, I cant wait to show this to my teachers, how dumb whoever proved that equation to work because it completely doesn't. My explanation is the correct way to do it.

On the 1/3 = 0.3333 repeating is correct and if you multiply that by three, you do indeed get one. But subtracting on the other hand then multiplying or whichever way around is completely different.

Cant wait to show my teachers that, ima go print that page and show my teachers that its completely wrong. Wakaka, thanks for giving me that link, cuz thats completely wrong.


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That image above is correct but this is how they are thinking it though........

0.333333333333333 repeating times 3 is 0.9999999999999999999 repeating but its not, its 1. You do not get 0.9999999999999999999 repeating from 0.33333333333333333333333333333 repeating unless you stop at some point by putting a limit to how many 3's you can have. Otherwise, its going to be equal to 1 always not 0.99999999999999999 repeating.

Same concept goes with say....... y=1/x .... y never gets to zero and it will never be equal zero. We can then say that the limit of 1/x as x approaches zero on any direction is +- (plus minus) infinity


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For this equation to work, the second "c" they used has to be repeating to infinity minus 1 in order for another c to be equal to 1. This will then create three variables and will look like this

C1 = 0.9999999999999 repeating to infinity with no limit
C2 = 0.999999999999 repeating to infinity minus one
C3 = 1


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gawd wtf! why r ppl talking about math? i hate math :cry: just looking at it makes my head hurt.

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no ty i already got a thousand ><

Anyways what do you guys mean with 2:1 hybrid will be good?

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beats my calculus class any day :P

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erm how much damage lvl 80 nuker deal to a lvl 80 blader ? thats what i wanna noe..
stop doing maths here.

try and estimate the damage nuker will deal ... i heard KSRO just release new skill for chinese character ...
Nuker has new skill like some sort of pegasus(Lightning)


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go to this http://forum.mmosite.com/topics/105/200 ... 1171962237

to check those new skills.
nuker mighT deal around 30~60k at lvl 150 or even higher damage.(im estimating)(Guess)

So no comments,no advices no flaming jack aSS


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and to let u all know the truth when i started playing SRO 2005 nov...
they just update talka makan or something.
after 5 months i checked ksro and i still did not notice any new stuff.until now then i notice new stuff.

AND THOSE new skills are out in 2/14/07...

When were we have these new skills?

TWO YEARS TIME !


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MastaChiefX wrote:
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here is how it goes down
.1111(repeating)= X
X * 10 = 9.99(repeating)
10X - 1X= 9
9 / 9 = 1
So .99(repeating) = 1.

Just basic fundamental math.


WRONG! :-P

.1111(repeating) = X
X * 10 = 1.11111111(repeating)
10X - 1X = 1
1 / 1 = 1
So .11111(repeating) = 1 - well not really. It's very, very close to 1.

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