Bow build 70:70 GUIDE Updated 3.0!

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

judaiskariot wrote:

Yes i get your point bu there is not a single full int or hybrid (any build and weapon that can tank all those mobs without decent gear that is- so it means that everyone needs to be full str or i got it wrong??)

You need to be full str in order to tank those mobs.

judaiskariot wrote:

And I dont get it.. there are lots of tabs (drops) and alchemy is realy easy to do.. well i know that it is little expensive but if it succed it is awsame.. so i want to give a tip to people "do alchemy" cause it realy pays up.. and you can get more money from pimped gear (even if you spend money on pimping it), cause pimped gear costs more..[/qote]Have you ever made it to 8th degree? Do you know how much stones cost? You'll need almost str 5 and int 5 on almost all your gear to get to 80:80. 8th degree str stones are like 8mil and int stone like 6 or 7 mil. You have to use a str stone on all your gear. You're going to spend at least 88-77 mil on str stones and thats not including if they fail a couple of times which will happen. You also might just get str 3 or 1 on your gear with the str stones so you must buy another one which is more gold. You will need about 66 -77mil for int stones and not including if they fail. You also can't forget assimilation. You could have str 5 or int 5 on a gear and another stone could assimilate to 1 or something. You're going to have to spend a minimum of about 154mil on stones assuming everything goes right(You're going to fail many times.). You could make your own stones but then you'll be spending tons of gold on element. Pick your poison.

judaiskariot wrote:

So people don be lazy do alchemy, and as i said before bowman dont need to tank, run, it is called retreat and it doesnt make you a coward, but if you want to play easier make a full str glavie it rocks.. So take a pick

:)

Alchemy is expensive, thats why people don't do it. They may do a bit of alchemy but nothing that will increase their balance by 10% when they are at the cap. Maybe 4% to 7%.

These are the 2 main targets in PvP.
1. Pure int spear nukers.
2. Any type of bow build.

Spear nukers usually switch to sword/shield when they are about to PvP/. That moves bow builds up to #1. Everyone is going to come after you first because you will die the fastest. And no you will not get away, they have ghost walk also. You're going to start getting hit and you will die once you get kded or stun. Since 'hp is not important' you will die miserably.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=81fONiSodQQ

This video proves my point that pure str bows are pretty good and that it is necessary to have enough hp to tank.

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:40 pm

YEah full str can be also good but it depends on gears !
this girl on the vid wears armor and fight against garment.....
But i wonder why she uses ICE and not fire when fire is the strongest force element ?

judaiskariot · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 309 **Location:** Croatia

wow, i loved this movie..

It can be shity as hell (i mean bow and builds and all) but for me it is the best dam.n weapon in game.. it is so cool.. i will stick to it even if I am going to be noobest and weakest char on whole server

and hey if people can kill me its ok.. I will help someone to feel good

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Jadekiss wrote:

YEah full str can be also good but it depends on gears !
this girl on the vid wears armor and fight against garment.....
But i wonder why she uses ICE and not fire when fire is the strongest force element ?

He's wearing garment....

There was no alchemy, so people weren't immune to cold and didn't have str or int on their equip unless they found it that way. The reason why pure str bows do not seem to be good now is because most are not good players. They use too many attacks that take to long and they don't have as good alchemy as the other builds. If a pure str bow gets alchemy that is near equal with who they are fighting then the same thing that happened in that video could be happening right now.

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:32 pm

On my opinion its a female char !
but i dont know her/him in RL !
so could be male, but she/he isnt wearing garment at all, she/he has both gears on the middle of the vid more on the beginning you will see her/him in complete armor set from 1-7 degree i thought was it...
but later suddenly she/ge wears garment BUT we cant say what he wears under thief suit... only if you know him/her ?

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Jadekiss wrote:

On my opinion its a female char !
but i dont know her/him in RL !
so could be male, but she/he isnt wearing garment at all, she/he has both gears on the middle of the vid more on the beginning you will see her/him in complete armor set from 1-7 degree i thought was it...
but later suddenly she/ge wears garment BUT we cant say what he wears under thief suit... only if you know him/her ?

Well, whether he is male/female doesn't really matter. You can't see his/her gear if they are in thief suit...

He/she always wear garment in all of his/her videos. You can see it in this video also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abg1mtYSFvk

At 1:19 you can see in his inventory that he/she is wearing garment. He are some pics too.

I just found out a few minutes ago his/her balance. I guess you can say he is pure str since he's not exactly a str hybrid.

judaiskariot · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 309 **Location:** Croatia

LOL nice she/he runs alot and did you see one interesting thing??

He/she has hp pots in quick slot 4 and pressing it constantly, i didint knew that helps.. gotta try that

and that pic is lvl 30 and in movie lvl 64 +++++++++++++++++ so he/she

can be hybrid or not

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:59 pm

Well, nice Da_Realest but where da ..... do you get those pics of her/him ?
But im still interested what Wind will post here if he keeps his word !

@judaiskariot lol dude your funny man

she could be a hybrid but who knows

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

judaiskariot wrote:

LOL nice she/he runs alot and did you see one interesting thing??

He/she has hp pots in quick slot 4 and pressing it constantly, i didint knew that helps.. gotta try that

and that pic is lvl 30 and in movie lvl 64 +++++++++++++++++ so he/she

can be hybrid or not

They didn't have autopot yet. I think it cost money to use autopot in that version.

Jadekiss wrote:

Well, nice Da_Realest but where da ..... do you get those pics of her/him ?

From his/her website.

DS^ · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 404

First I thank you Jadekiss this build is realy great my friend tried it now he is 70:70 lvl 30 and he is realy happy with it thanks for this great build

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:10 am

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From his/her website

Well, i see.

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First I thank you Jadekiss this build is realy great my friend tried it now he is 70:70 lvl 30 and he is realy happy with it thanks for this great build

Np, i know this build rocks in PvE, but i dont have a prove for PvP.
We can wait either for Wind's vid or just try it out by your own

I think we discuss here about PvP already more than enough

Dempster · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 378

Sin wrote:

Zing wrote:

This thread turned very shitty, because of all the hostilities.

I have to agree.

Please stop flaming in this thread. If you are all unable to have a friendly debate, then do everyone a favor and stop posting here. I have sat back and done nothing long enough.

I don't mean to be rude, but you have to admit it's Jadakiss' own fault that the thread has been turned into this mess, also a LOT of the time it is the thread creator himself who is flaming... I don't see why you've let this thread continue at all.

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:02 pm

Dempster wrote:

you ramble too much, and your english sucks just as much as your build does, I don't even see why I'm replying to your moronic posts anymore

You believe a lvl80 noob ass 70:70 archer will crit more than a full str one will. You sir are an idiot.

sure Dempster who was flaming that my build sux and that i sux aswell ?
Who said that my english sux ?
well i thought my thread sux to ? so why you still posting here ?

I think Sin let this thread continue at all because, this thread doesnt break any rules etc.
its just a guide so why should it be close ?

Dempster · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 378

Jadekiss wrote:

@Dempster OMG stfu pls u play on OASIS dude that means u arent from the beginning on there AEGE is the first server and im a beta tester aswell u dont know anything u noob u want to show us that u have a lvl 70 char und so one on oasis = pro = experience enough to tell that pure are the best ? u are an idiot man u dont know anything...

Open and closed case, You've flamed more than anyone.

Edit: also, your english does suck, but thats more of a fact rather than an opinion.. ROFL Guys!!! Aege was the first server remember that!!

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:22 pm

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ROFL Guys!!! Aege was the first server remember that!!

I call this blaming you still act like a kid dude ...
We had here a nomal discussion withouth blaming/flaming... now you come back and posting something stupid again, which no one cares!
This must be funny huh ?

IguanaRampage · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 2483 **Location:** Changing

er... yeah Xian was the first server m8 lol...

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:53 pm

I already noticed that....
My point was, that he doesnt need to repeat himself to make me look like a noob.
Xian or Aege who cares ?
But he still keeps on saying that again, again and again.
That isnt funny imo.
But nvm.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:03 am

I always think that the skills devil arrow and strong bow are the most important with 350% power boost.

Anti devil is good, yes, with +30 crit and 250% boost; but u cant use it all the time, because it has about 8 sec cooldown.
I dont know what u think but devil arrow from a full int bow is deadly

Dempster · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 378

NuclearSilo wrote:

I always think that the skills devil arrow and strong bow are the most important with 350% power boost.

Anti devil is good, yes, with +30 crit and 250% boost; but u cant use it all the time, because it has about 8 sec cooldown.
I dont know what u think but devil arrow from a full int bow is deadly

Yeah. Cause pure int crits are Effin scary!!!

Eukanuba · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 171

Dempster wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

I always think that the skills devil arrow and strong bow are the most important with 350% power boost.

Anti devil is good, yes, with +30 crit and 250% boost; but u cant use it all the time, because it has about 8 sec cooldown.
I dont know what u think but devil arrow from a full int bow is deadly

Yeah. Cause pure int crits are Effin scary!!!

He said devil arrow, not anti-devil.

judaiskariot · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 309 **Location:** Croatia

So what that is the 3rd book of arrow with small amount of blasting powder....

Didnt you know that or there is another point??i dont get it, explain please

umerasmez · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 21

Nuclearsilo.. i've seen u on xian.. u have a fem char lvl 60-65 s/s and then bow.. what's up with that ? i'm just curious

tedtwilliger · **Posted:** Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:54 am

omg... this thread is STILL GOING

omg people.... 2 simple words... THREAD OVER!

Alfred · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1545 **Location:** .se

umerasmez wrote:

Nuclearsilo.. i've seen u on xian.. u have a fem char lvl 60-65 s/s and then bow.. what's up with that ? i'm just curious

the more characters you have, the less bored you will get

judaiskariot · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 309 **Location:** Croatia

Alfred +1

And more chars you have less you post in topic "how much gold you have"

Dempster · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 378

my point is, whether it crits or not the damage won't move much.. it'd be a "mediocre" crit ^^

Alfred · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1545 **Location:** .se

Dempster wrote:

my point is, whether it crits or not the damage won't move much.. it'd be a "mediocre" crit ^^

it doesn't have to, the damage is high enough from the beginning

Dempster · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 378

Alfred wrote:

Dempster wrote:

my point is, whether it crits or not the damage won't move much.. it'd be a "mediocre" crit ^^

it doesn't have to, the damage is high enough from the beginning

Uh. that 350% is physical damage, which this build doesn't have much of..

Alfred · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1545 **Location:** .se

Dempster wrote:

Alfred wrote:

Dempster wrote:

my point is, whether it crits or not the damage won't move much.. it'd be a "mediocre" crit ^^

it doesn't have to, the damage is high enough from the beginning

Uh. that 350% is physical damage, which this build doesn't have much of..

the mag damage from the imbue is affected by this also

jarrod · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 708 **Location:**

been reading since page 1....nice debate(exclude the insults)...plus lotsa info.... thnks to all involved and succesfully make it to page 20

why do ppl need to insult, just to proof his/her point...

(dont flame me :wink:

... just has the urge to post)

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