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 Post subject: Ice or Hensukal?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:28 am 
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I'm having a hard time deciding whether I should get Ice for the phys def or Hensukal for the hp. Any opinions?

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If you going to get heuskaal just for the HP, get ice.

Total waste to get a whole tree so high just for one thing.

If you get ice you can get a lot more use out it.

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 Post subject: Re: Ice or Hensukal?
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Hello_Kitty wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding whether I should get Ice for the phys def or Hensukal for the hp. Any opinions?


hello_kitty why dont u use the search button? theres plently of topics on this

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If you going to get heuskaal just for the HP, get ice.

Total waste to get a whole tree so high just for one thing.

If you get ice you can get a lot more use out it.

+1 that's my opinion on these stuff as well.

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Well, if you're not ever going to use spear then just get ice.

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I prefer spear passive. More survivability in pve from level 1 to 60. More survivability against int heavy chracters in pvp. Less sp...

But then ice is pretty....

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Well, for survivability, which is superior?

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Hello_Kitty wrote:
Well, for survivability, which is superior?


Without doubts it's heuksal passive, if you plan to make a full int 1k HP is a must for you.

But if you want to make a PVE character with little PVP, then I think cold is a better choice.


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Survivability against what?



Also, when/if the immunity thingy is ever changed, you will be glad you have ice.

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Stallowned wrote:
Survivability against what?



Also, when/if the immunity thingy is ever changed, you will be glad you have ice.

or when we get the frozen bug again.

well for pure int 1k extra hp is definitely important, but i still believe that the amount of sp you put in there to get that 1k is not worth it. what will u do when they raise the cap? and are u really pure int? in your last post about your build u said it's pure str bow + blade if i remember correctly.

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Stallowned wrote:
Survivability against what?



Also, when/if the immunity thingy is ever changed, you will be glad you have ice.


I'm not so sure about that immunity bug thing.

I read this http://www.silkroadonline.net/sro_board ... picID=3864 a while ago. I know it's a little vague but it doesn't seem like it's gonna be fixed.

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If you going to get heuskaal just for the HP, get ice.

Total waste to get a whole tree so high just for one thing.

If you get ice you can get a lot more use out it.


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Hmm. Health is definately good. But the extra defense you get would really be awesome for you as an INT. plus you can get the frost nova thing to help in PvE or PvP if you get jumped too much. I wouldnt say it is worth it for spear just to simply get 1k hp extra.

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I've had pure ints with ice before, and I'd prefer to have the extra 1k hp than more def., with the extra hp you stand a better chance of surviving a crit than you do with just the ice tree. But then again, whatever floats your boat.

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It looks like your hybrid. So considering you will have extra phys def over pure int's go for the HP, besides the skills could come in handy if you decide to get them.

However, even having ice at 60 is something like 84 extra phys def(with buff) which helps ALOT.

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well you can get extra hp through str and hp blues (57 str the most :shock: for spear )

personal i would go ice, since not everyone is immune to ice frost nova can be proven useful in pvp, like that youtube video about some guy with macros. ice also gives you additional defense, and the nuke is cool :D

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 Post subject: Re: Ice or Hensukal?
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REASONS wrote:
Hello_Kitty wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding whether I should get Ice for the phys def or Hensukal for the hp. Any opinions?


hello_kitty why dont u use the search button? theres plently of topics on this


dude first of all how dare u to tell the mod what to do ?

second have u tried useing the dang search urself ?


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ice is useless
the difference the +phy buff makes at lvl 80 is a joke
so just get heuksal
u can change weapons in fight, so u can stun, u have +hp, and u have a good +magical def and u can use the +block buff than change to shield and u will block 4/5 attacks :D


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hello_kitty why dont u use the search button? theres plently of topics on this

lol, that button is the worst i've seen.


lol so true i hate that button

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Its your choice of either, 97 extra phys def. or an extra 1078 HP, if your int, I would have a hard time choosing either, that extra defense will make you more stronger against STR's. The HP would give you a better chance of survival. If you are a Hybrid STR or STR build, I would choose Ice, if you are Hybrid INT or INT, I would choose Heuksal.

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XemnasXD wrote:
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hello_kitty why dont u use the search button? theres plently of topics on this

lol, that button is the worst i've seen.


lol so true i hate that button

I love search.


People just suck at using it.

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Its your choice of either, 97 extra phys def. or an extra 1078 HP, if your int, I would have a hard time choosing either, that extra defense will make you more stronger against STR's. The HP would give you a better chance of survival. If you are a Hybrid STR or STR build, I would choose Ice, if you are Hybrid INT or INT, I would choose Heuksal.


your choice should not depend on those 2 facts but on the fact that you want to farm even more sp to get more skills in one of those 2 masteries (weapon skills/nuke/imbue/buffs)
since the fireshield will be changed (i kinda hope asap) your choice will be extremely important :D

would be a lot easier to help if i/we knew what your other masteries are.


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heuksal passive ftw!

If cap does get raised (to 100), the max level of heuksal passive will be raised from 6 to 10 according to KSRO info in one of the threads in these forums somewhere.

97 extra phy def...is that going to reduce...maybe..200damage from a pure str?

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