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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:41 pm 
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Well, as you all should know i have a lvl 59 pure str blade and a lvl 60 pure int sword.


now... here is my question....


i am thinking about hybridyzing both of my characters.

with my blader i want him to have overall a 95% phys balance with gear (currently he has 104%)

-will this make him any better at killing anyone, or is it a waste?


with my nuker i want her to have a 96% magic balance with gear (currently 107%)

-should i do this to give her extra HP or wait till the cap and add as much hp and str as possible and stay pure int?



the reason i am thinking about doin both of these should be self explanitory... nuker dies and blader cant kill.

will this help? Or should i stay pure and alchemy my shit and hope for the best?

suggestions please. ty.

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Her and him?

Make them have a baby! :P
He will have hp of blade and damage of int :wink:

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lmao that is a very simple suggestion xD but no stay pure ... to me a purpose of a int is not to live its to deal the most dmg in the game... same with bladers there not ment to kill there ment to tank the most dmg in the game....

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nuker dies and blader cant kill.


Nice sterotyping, if this is the case on your server then your server in one gimped POS.
Any-who nukers are not made for 1 vs 1. But that don't mean they can't handle their own. I can tank anything on my server just cause of my equipment.

Word of advice as you have a pure str blader DONT go hybrid pff. Your experienced enough to know NOT to do that.

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I never said nukers die and blader cant kill i said bladers arnt MENT to kill and nukers arnt ment to 1v1 pretty much dont put words in my mouth then quote em please

this is just my opinion im sorry for liking sro before alchemy

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5m0k3 wrote:
I never said nukers die and blader cant kill i said bladers arnt MENT to kill and nukers arnt ment to 1v1 pretty much dont put words in my mouth then quote em please

this is just my opinion im sorry for liking sro before alchemy

No one is quoting you and putting words in your mouth.....Wtfz :?: :?:

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plus44 use a quote.... nm lmfao i just read she didnt quote me -.-

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5m0k3 wrote:
I never said nukers die and blader cant kill i said bladers arnt MENT to kill and nukers arnt ment to 1v1 pretty much dont put words in my mouth then quote em please

this is just my opinion im sorry for liking sro before alchemy


he was quoting me.

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nuker dies and blader cant kill.


Nice sterotyping, if this is the case on your server then your server in one gimped POS.
Any-who nukers are not made for 1 vs 1. But that don't mean they can't handle their own. I can tank anything on my server just cause of my equipment.

Word of advice as you have a pure str blader DONT go hybrid pff. Your experienced enough to know NOT to do that.



its just recently... even with my blader having a good balance, and decent gear, i just cant seem to kill anytying, and its pissing me off, at any level before this one, anyone my level, lower, and sometimes higher with any sort of int build, my blader would pwn them, but now, i just seem to be sukkin ballz.... i know hybrid str is supposed to be shit... but im gettin desperate...


as for my nuker, im pretty sure she will pwn with alchemy at the cap staying pure, but right now... she dies. (not saying she doesnt pwn a lot of people in 1 hit, because she does :-P)

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 Post subject: Re: a question, your simple suggestions please.
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PsYch008 wrote:
nuker dies and blader cant kill.


You're right.
Hybrids are the killers!
Hybrid FTW!!

And as far as your situation, I say stay pure. If you want hybrid then start a new char. Every char should be a new experience, imo. Have a pure int, pure str, blader, nuker, glavier, archer, 2:1 hybrid, 4:1 hyrbid, etc, etc. Try different things with diff chars. These two chars are your pure chars. Go hybrid with a diff char.

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LuV3r8o1 wrote:
PsYch008 wrote:
nuker dies and blader cant kill.


You're right.
Hybrids are the killers!
Hybrid FTW!!

And as far as your situation, I say stay pure. If you want hybrid then start a new char. Every char should be a new experience, imo. Have a pure int, pure str, blader, nuker, glavier, archer, 2:1 hybrid, 4:1 hyrbid, etc, etc. Try different things with diff chars. These two chars are your pure chars. Go hybrid with a diff char.



yea, i am doing that... i was just gettin tired of the stereotypical full str and full int...

the next char i am making is 70 70 hybrid bow rofl... i want to see what all the fuss is about... that char is currently lvl 14, we shall see where that goes... (my guess is a 70 70 char can pretty much weild any wep and still do decent damage, is this guess correct? If this is the case, i may make another char, hybrid sword shield spear user :-D what do you think of that??)

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LuV3r8o1 wrote:
4:1 hybrid,

Thats a pure strength or intelligence.
Sorry if i burst your bubble.

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Stay pure with the blader...he's gonna be a tank at 80, better at 90! Can you imagine if they introduce new weap skills and give you another k/d or power move? There's gotta be some new skills between 80 to 90 to help you. Go fire if you have it, or if they ever fix the reduce % bug with flame shield, you could probably use ice and catch people that are no longer immune.

Since your nuker is a s/s, you'll need all the int you can get to do decent damage. Stay pure! If planning on switching to spear, or you're just getting wacked way too much...then down the road you may want to look at adding a little more STR but until you get to 7x or so, keep adding those int points and resist the temptation...

If you want to experiment, get some max blues on your equips before adjusting your build. Alchemy is the ticket for now, as you've mentioned :)

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justaskphil wrote:
Stay pure with the blader...he's gonna be a tank at 80, better at 90! Can you imagine if they introduce new weap skills and give you another k/d or power move? There's gotta be some new skills between 80 to 90 to help you. Go fire if you have it, or if they ever fix the reduce % bug with flame shield, you could probably use ice and catch people that are no longer immune.

Since your nuker is a s/s, you'll need all the int you can get to do decent damage. Stay pure! If planning on switching to spear, or you're just getting wacked way too much...then down the road you may want to look at adding a little more STR but until you get to 7x or so, keep adding those int points and resist the temptation...

If you want to experiment, get some max blues on your equips before adjusting your build. Alchemy is the ticket for now, as you've mentioned :)

Good luck!


hey, thanks for the great response :)

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Mauler109 wrote:
LuV3r8o1 wrote:
4:1 hybrid,

Thats a pure strength or intelligence.
Sorry if i burst your bubble.


How is 4:1 pure?

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LuV3r8o1 wrote:
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LuV3r8o1 wrote:
4:1 hybrid,

Thats a pure strength or intelligence.
Sorry if i burst your bubble.


How is 4:1 pure?

Every time you level you get 5 char points. 1 is automaticaly allocated in str and int. That leaves you the 3 others
So if you are planning str. you level up no points added is 1:1. add one point 2:1, add two points is 3:1, add your last point and its 4:1

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HYBRIDS WILL RULE 1 DAY :P :twisted: :twisted:

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Karlos Vandango wrote:
HYBRIDS WILL RULE 1 DAY :P :twisted: :twisted:



i actually think that bows are made to be hybrids. :)

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Mauler109 wrote:
LuV3r8o1 wrote:
Mauler109 wrote:
LuV3r8o1 wrote:
4:1 hybrid,

Thats a pure strength or intelligence.
Sorry if i burst your bubble.


How is 4:1 pure?

Every time you level you get 5 char points. 1 is automaticaly allocated in str and int. That leaves you the 3 others
So if you are planning str. you level up no points added is 1:1. add one point 2:1, add two points is 3:1, add your last point and its 4:1


I see.

I never counted the auto points when thinking about hybrids. I've always assumed only the 3 pts under our control were accounted for when building a hybrid.


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HYBRIDS WILL RULE 1 DAY :P :twisted: :twisted:


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Bladers should never be anything but pure STR. One of the best reasons to go hybrid, and also one of the most overlooked, is for extra defense against your opposite type. Bladers have no need for extra defense.

If you can't kill as a blader, you are probably either focusing on the wrong skills, focusing on the wrong equipment, or just can't afford a good enough blade. Your first priority should be a good blade with high crit. I can't stress this enough - bladers kill with crits. What makes a "good" blade? 40%+ physical damage, 40%+ physical reinforce, +3 at the absolute bare minimum. You really really should get a +5 or sos+3 and up if you can afford it. And a good blade needs block prevention no matter who you're fighting because people WILL switch when you knockdown.

Your second priority should be +STR on ALL your defense gear. As much as possible. After that, +INT on your garments. This also adds some damage vs. other STR builds, but just as importantly, defense against INT builds.

For the skills, just know when not to use chains, which is most of the time. The only good times to use chains that I can think of are against an INT build in garments who likes to run away a lot, or in a group situation when you don't want to knock your enemy down so that your friends can keep dealing damage.

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Bakemaster wrote:
Bladers should never be anything but pure STR. One of the best reasons to go hybrid, and also one of the most overlooked, is for extra defense against your opposite type. Bladers have no need for extra defense.

If you can't kill as a blader, you are probably either focusing on the wrong skills, focusing on the wrong equipment, or just can't afford a good enough blade. Your first priority should be a good blade with high crit. I can't stress this enough - bladers kill with crits. What makes a "good" blade? 40%+ physical damage, 40%+ physical reinforce, +3 at the absolute bare minimum. You really really should get a +5 or sos+3 and up if you can afford it. And a good blade needs block prevention no matter who you're fighting because people WILL switch when you knockdown.

Your second priority should be +STR on ALL your defense gear. As much as possible. After that, +INT on your garments. This also adds some damage vs. other STR builds, but just as importantly, defense against INT builds.

For the skills, just know when not to use chains, which is most of the time. The only good times to use chains that I can think of are against an INT build in garments who likes to run away a lot, or in a group situation when you don't want to knock your enemy down so that your friends can keep dealing damage.


the only thing i can think of wrong with my char is my blade, its 56+3 crit 6... int 3 str 3 attack rating...

my phys balance is 104% is that not high enough to kill?

well, i am gonna stick with pure str... and hope i can afford a pwnage blade at 72.

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You're at a bad level for bladers. Everyone else is loading up on higher levels of their basic skills, and HP/def buffs and passives, but you don't get double stab until 68. That will help a *lot*.

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