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Are Europe Character better ? and shuld i stop playing my lvl 58 bow fire?
Yes Europe Character are better,Quit this game for a while and play FLYff 19%  19%  [ 14 ]
Continue Chinese lvl 58 bow fire character,They are Better than europe characters 81%  81%  [ 61 ]
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Euro is so weak, sorry.


Sure, the damage is high, buts lets say you want to go job.

Two 3X's euro vrs 1 chinese 3X.

3X will win, almost all the time. Pots > team.
Obviously, you have not played a euro character to at least lvl30.

If you have then you must know. Bring a cleric with you and you will always win. For one they can render someone completely unmovable, they have a AoE magic attack that can disintegrate someone to little bitty pieces (976% ftw...), and and they have a AoE res so just in case more than 2 people die, and a AoE heal and phys+mag damage shield buff, that can make nukes do like 80damage, and phys attacks 1-13 damage.


Not only that but a wizard can just 2-shot a chinese or any other. they can 1-shot if zerked.

Warriors can cause a DoT thats painfull + increase their block ratio (for s/s) and damage(and a knockdown for longswordsmen, AoE axe spin attack for axemen,).

rogues can go invisible and stunlock you until your dead. And if your crossbow, invisible+power shot =dead (plus they can tame monsters too at lvl40)

So, you really don't know much about euro if you think 1 chinese can take on a full group...in fact you must be crazy if you think a full group of Chinese can take on a full group of euro. Face it, euro excel at group fights, but Chinese only are good for solo.


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You take out the resser, euro dies.
That simple.
But, only a stupid group would leave the cleric unprotected in the first place. And I know this, no-one is that stupid. :roll:


Besides you have 8 slots

2 of those slots are for clerics
2 are for tanks
1 is for bard (buffs, refuels the clerics mp)
3 are for damage dealers (crossbow,longswordsmen,rogue,wizard,warlock)

That whole group should hardly ever die.

then u just go for the bard....

1v1 Chinese wins!!

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Damage wise, much better. But survival wise, they suck.

Unless, you make a weapon/cleric. That build is pretty nice.


agreed BUT if ur in pt w/ good balance of clerics, tankers, buffers, and casters, u can lvl up to 40 in less than 1 month (play bout 3 hours per day)

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Damage wise, much better. But survival wise, they suck.

Unless, you make a weapon/cleric. That build is pretty nice.


agreed BUT if ur in pt w/ good balance of clerics, tankers, buffers, and casters, u can lvl up to 40 in less than 1 month (play bout 3 hours per day)


GL finding people that want to play with you in Isro.

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Damage wise, much better. But survival wise, they suck.

Unless, you make a weapon/cleric. That build is pretty nice.


agreed BUT if ur in pt w/ good balance of clerics, tankers, buffers, and casters, u can lvl up to 40 in less than 1 month (play bout 3 hours per day)


GL finding people that want to play with you in Isro.


ya... isro is full of annoying ppl, ksro is better- we do guild trade runs (5 stars every weekend) and train together alot


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notice how i can easly do over 9k dmg w/o sosun equips but the hightest in isro dmg contest is only over 6k dmg (pure int 2x cup)

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Wont there evantually be Pvp? Like Euro Nuker Vs. Chinese Nuker?


:D i hope so
that would be sooooo aswesome 8)

not true, i tested this w/ another nuker in ksro bout same lvl as me, chinese nukes takes less time to cast and a nuke fight is always determined by the first to nuke

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ffs, im so sik of hearing u ppl saying like "but uh, 1vs1 who will win" FFS PPL
put this in ur mind Euro, is to be played like a team and Chinese is to be played alone!
Dude, would it make sence if both races would be the same..it wouldnt, so stop talking about 1vs1 1vs1 1vs1 with euro chars..jeez.

Hey i play sro, and i have some friends there but id love to findan ative group. So if u play ksro, plz tell me and ill go play with u :DDD, ill be a cleric or a one sword guy :p.

And related to the nukes stuff. Euro nukes are stronger, before lvl 20 u get nukes that have 400+% . Mages can hit , at lvl 90, chinese chars for 20k(thats what a friend of mine told me), A friend of mine can turn invisible, and that ..... pwns, he got knockback with bow as well.
Im pretty sure that, if you can get a group of friends, with like, two clerics, one bard, and dmg dealers that play regulary, ull rule the game, personally i cant wait till euro comes out so i can start playing with my friends :D.
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Damage wise, much better. But survival wise, they suck.

Unless, you make a weapon/cleric. That build is pretty nice.


agreed BUT if ur in pt w/ good balance of clerics, tankers, buffers, and casters, u can lvl up to 40 in less than 1 month (play bout 3 hours per day)


GL finding people that want to play with you in Isro.


ya... isro is full of annoying ppl, ksro is better- we do guild trade runs (5 stars every weekend) and train together alot


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notice how i can easly do over 9k dmg w/o sosun equips but the hightest in isro dmg contest is only over 6k dmg (pure int 2x cup)

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Wont there evantually be Pvp? Like Euro Nuker Vs. Chinese Nuker?


:D i hope so
that would be sooooo aswesome 8)

not true, i tested this w/ another nuker in ksro bout same lvl as me, chinese nukes takes less time to cast and a nuke fight is always determined by the first to nuke


Also, you have the buff that does 2X the damage at the cost of 1/2 the hp.

So your dead in 1 shot.

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ew flyff? why no go play something else if u absolutly must leave

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Euro is so weak, sorry.


Sure, the damage is high, buts lets say you want to go job.

Two 3X's euro vrs 1 chinese 3X.

3X will win, almost all the time. Pots > team.
Obviously, you have not played a euro character to at least lvl30.

If you have then you must know. Bring a cleric with you and you will always win. For one they can render someone completely unmovable, they have a AoE magic attack that can disintegrate someone to little bitty pieces (976% ftw...), and and they have a AoE res so just in case more than 2 people die, and a AoE heal and phys+mag damage shield buff, that can make nukes do like 80damage, and phys attacks 1-13 damage.


Not only that but a wizard can just 2-shot a chinese or any other. they can 1-shot if zerked.

Warriors can cause a DoT thats painfull + increase their block ratio (for s/s) and damage(and a knockdown for longswordsmen, AoE axe spin attack for axemen,).

rogues can go invisible and stunlock you until your dead. And if your crossbow, invisible+power shot =dead (plus they can tame monsters too at lvl40)

So, you really don't know much about euro if you think 1 chinese can take on a full group...in fact you must be crazy if you think a full group of Chinese can take on a full group of euro. Face it, euro excel at group fights, but Chinese only are good for solo.


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You take out the resser, euro dies.
That simple.
But, only a stupid group would leave the cleric unprotected in the first place. And I know this, no-one is that stupid. :roll:


Besides you have 8 slots

2 of those slots are for clerics
2 are for tanks
1 is for bard (buffs, refuels the clerics mp)
3 are for damage dealers (crossbow,longswordsmen,rogue,wizard,warlock)

That whole group should hardly ever die.

then u just go for the bard....

1v1 Chinese wins!!
Then one of the clerics res the bard. :D

And like icesworder said. EURO ARE NOT MEANT FOR 1v1 GET THAT IN YOUR HEADS PEOPLE! unless you plan to fight with a wizard,warlock or weapon/cleric mix, THEY DO NOT 1v1!!!!


You want to know why people say that euro is weak? It's because they have the fear that the euro are going to be stronger than their chinese that they worked hard on. THAT'S WHY.


Besides, bards are a chinese nukers bane. They leech the mp right out of them (while still doing damage too).

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ffs, im so sik of hearing u ppl saying like "but uh, 1vs1 who will win" FFS PPL
put this in ur mind Euro, is to be played like a team and Chinese is to be played alone!
Dude, would it make sence if both races would be the same..it wouldnt, so stop talking about 1vs1 1vs1 1vs1 with euro chars..jeez.

Hey i play sro, and i have some friends there but id love to findan ative group. So if u play ksro, plz tell me and ill go play with u :DDD, ill be a cleric or a one sword guy :p.

And related to the nukes stuff. Euro nukes are stronger, before lvl 20 u get nukes that have 400+% . Mages can hit , at lvl 90, chinese chars for 20k(thats what a friend of mine told me), A friend of mine can turn invisible, and that ..... pwns, he got knockback with bow as well.
Im pretty sure that, if you can get a group of friends, with like, two clerics, one bard, and dmg dealers that play regulary, ull rule the game, personally i cant wait till euro comes out so i can start playing with my friends :D.
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That's one might giant if though...

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what will happen when those two races mix up in one team like in the Legend 6 teaser? MASACRE FOR ALL :)

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Then one of the clerics res the bard. :D

And like icesworder said. EURO ARE NOT MEANT FOR 1v1 GET THAT IN YOUR HEADS PEOPLE! unless you plan to fight with a wizard,warlock or weapon/cleric mix, THEY DO NOT 1v1!!!!


You want to know why people say that euro is weak? It's because they have the fear that the euro are going to be stronger than their chinese that they worked hard on. THAT'S WHY.


Besides, bards are a chinese nukers bane. They leech the mp right out of them (while still doing damage too).


yea, im shaking in my seat

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hmmmm....
Euro characters have to start at lvl 1 and will never catch up to the lvl 90's so they will always suck and never be best

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Then one of the clerics res the bard. :D

And like icesworder said. EURO ARE NOT MEANT FOR 1v1 GET THAT IN YOUR HEADS PEOPLE! unless you plan to fight with a wizard,warlock or weapon/cleric mix, THEY DO NOT 1v1!!!!


You want to know why people say that euro is weak? It's because they have the fear that the euro are going to be stronger than their chinese that they worked hard on. THAT'S WHY.


Besides, bards are a chinese nukers bane. They leech the mp right out of them (while still doing damage too).


yea, im shaking in my seat
That's exactly the response I would expect from somone who "knows" euro are stronger. Please keep responding, since most of you are just proving my point. :roll:

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hmmmm....
Euro characters have to start at lvl 1 and will never catch up to the lvl 90's so they will always suck and never be best


Reason the cap is force keept at 90 :P in ksro.
Euro chars are the high 80s now. and waiting for 8/9d items to go higher.


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Then one of the clerics res the bard. :D

And like icesworder said. EURO ARE NOT MEANT FOR 1v1 GET THAT IN YOUR HEADS PEOPLE! unless you plan to fight with a wizard,warlock or weapon/cleric mix, THEY DO NOT 1v1!!!!


You want to know why people say that euro is weak? It's because they have the fear that the euro are going to be stronger than their chinese that they worked hard on. THAT'S WHY.


Besides, bards are a chinese nukers bane. They leech the mp right out of them (while still doing damage too).


yea, im shaking in my seat
That's exactly the response I would expect from somone who "knows" euro are stronger. Please keep responding, since most of you are just proving my point. :roll:

We will see.

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i remember seeing something about how the euro chars are being nerfed a little to balance out with the chinese chars

besides, pt full of pure str fire glaives would own any groupe on euro's

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Ive actually never seen a pic of this 20k nuke thing. Anyone care to show me? I mean, if there is one.

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i remember seeing something about how the euro chars are being nerfed a little to balance out with the chinese chars

besides, pt full of pure str fire glaives would own any groupe on euro's


Most likely: yes.

lv52: that is the healers suicide attack, it uses hp for the aoe nuke. (need to level the skill/ not maxed)
But the shield buff, and the 2 hp refill buff, heals it fully in a sec.
Can only die in it if wrongly timed. Healer can surprise someone from the back :)

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Im guessing that has a long casting time?

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lol and its also on a manyang?


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What if it was just a plain and simple 1v1 Chinese Vs. Euro char fight? WHo would win then?


chinese cause they eat donkey penis and make them invincible :P

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ah, yes... the suicide attack. The strongest nuke in the game(between euro and chinese) goes to the cleric...for a price. You really ony use it just in case you get jumped by 2+ people. That one nuke is enough too 1-shot anyone. (trust me, I used it in pvp once too see how it would be)

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lol the emo nuke, what if my chinese shield blocks that? u just killed urself for nothing

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Euro will suk, they're limited to what they're allowed to wear for protection, while chinese chars can go any gear for the ocassion :P


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some how this remind me of the movies FearLess :? (Jet li last movie T..T)


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Im guessing that has a long casting time?

Not longer then other nukes. It just has long refresh time.

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lol the emo nuke, what if my chinese shield blocks that? u just killed urself for nothing


You did not read what I wrote, the chance of dieing in it is small if the timing
and the way of using it right.

If getting jumped by 2 ppl. it is already too l8t, need close to maximum hp to use it.
Used in pvp against a rouge, he keep shooting then re targeted other ppl.
took him out then.
1 on 1 he killed me since cleric got no real attack skills, need tank in front.


Will be scary to pvp in mixed groups, imagine all 7 of 8 is dead and
the 1 left raises them all at ones :) No more short pvp.

Even more scary the euro dual builds :) Full str with full healing/rez skills.

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Don't euro characters weapon and protection only go up to 6th Degree? A Euro level 90's defense would suck against Chinese level 90. Unless euro were able to + their weapons and protection alot.

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Lawl, this is so funny. Let euro get released and us, that alredy know a few things about euro will start lvling fast, because u lvl a lot faster with euro chars than chinese chars, you can get 24 in a day without any problem. I wanna see the façes after they see the first group to reach lvl 90 doing team work...they will be like, "wtfux i want an euro char " lol.

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I wanna see the façes after they see the first group to reach lvl 90 doing team work...they will be like, "wtfux i want an euro char " lol.

nooo they're be like "stupid bots" It would even take a bot like 9+ months to get to 80+ and since they'd have to write a bot for Euro skills and gameplay, it'll probably be over a year. Plus they might add anti-bot measures that actually work like users being able to tag people bots and if they don't unmark themselves in 15 minutes they die and get banned for a week :) don't bitch about the specifics, I'm not gonna list them all here, just trust me, it would work.
Anyway, like I said, the Euro characters are NEVER going to catch up. Everyone who wants a Euro character is going to do what I do and join on whatever was the last server to open up where the highest lvl person is 40 lol. Then it'll be a 99% Euro character server and whether the chinese are stronger won't matter.

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