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mohok
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Post subject: HYBRID? PURE STR or PURE INT? Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:52 pm |
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i want to make a new character to play. my last character was Hybrid STR (i know it sux that's why i decided to make a new)
I like Glavie most of all weapons.
I know Glavie is better working with fire.
i made one new pure STR but i had really great problems when i was using Skills. Mana Was so small in ammount that i had really great problems to make my Quests.
Pure INT characters don't have HP. lol i asked a LVL 40 pure INT about his characters HP and it was only about 1500.
With the pure str the truth is that i got a little bored. a pure int wouldn't be more fun for me.
i want you to help me decide what character to start and why.
I don't care so much for PVP stuff. i just want to have fun with the quests and doing some tradings.
a good balanced hybrid can make it for both? i don't care the 100% Excellence characters build.
my mind is about to spend STRand INT point both the same. 1 INT and 1 STR (that's the balance) in Protector with a glavie or spear. is it a good choise?
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[Build] Pure STR / Glavie / Fire / Protector
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Stress
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:34 pm |
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My personal recomandation
Build a hybrid INT spear. 1:2 INT hybrid. Look for the stickied guides if you want to know more about building one. You will level fast and do well in PvP also.
And Btw. get mana potions, if you have low MP 
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mohok
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:55 pm |
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thank you.
but one question ..... i saw many people saying in other topics this night that 1:1 is not good. i can't understand why..... nobody's saying why... i can't get it. lol
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[Build] Pure STR / Glavie / Fire / Protector
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Disconn3cted
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:35 pm |
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mohok wrote: thank you. but one question ..... i saw many people saying in other topics this night that 1:1 is not good. i can't understand why..... nobody's saying why... i can't get it. lol
they are not saying why because they dont really know i have never seen any 1:1 hybrid above lvl 30 so of course i would not know either but i do know in the end they have 10khp and 10kmp naked so i think it shouldn't be so bad. people are just afraid of the unknown
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jichiong
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:49 pm |
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like most ppl say, there's not good/bad builds, just good/bad players, so 1:1, 1:2, heck even 2:1 aren't bad, its just that they are harder to use hence the good/bad players.
if u go pur str, just spam kd+stab or ss/gs and hope for crit, if ur pure int, nuke+kd+stab+lion shout or nuke+ss/gs+lion shout and hope of no crit from ur enemy, but for pure hybrids, like 1:1, you can tank better than pure ints (but not as good as pur strs) AND hit harder than pure str (but not as high as pur ints), so that makes them more of a challenge to handle.
just my two cents worth 
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mohok
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:43 am |
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thank you guys:) your help is really appreciated:)
_________________ [Server] Persia
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[Build] Pure STR / Glavie / Fire / Protector
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flexo
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:01 pm |
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jichiong wrote: like most ppl say, there's not good/bad builds, just good/bad players, so 1:1, 1:2, heck even 2:1 aren't bad, its just that they are harder to use hence the good/bad players. if u go pur str, just spam kd+stab or ss/gs and hope for crit, if ur pure int, nuke+kd+stab+lion shout or nuke+ss/gs+lion shout and hope of no crit from ur enemy, but for pure hybrids, like 1:1, you can tank better than pure ints (but not as good as pur strs) AND hit harder than pure str (but not as high as pur ints), so that makes them more of a challenge to handle. just my two cents worth 
yeah well that is the understatement of the year lol
here is it put less subtile...1:1 hybrid ain't got a lot of hp like str and can't kill as fast as pure int to compensate for the los in hp.
As for dmg crit ain't high like pure str and normal dmg ain't high like pure int.
So basicly you ain't got any strenghts... and yeah that is hard to handle. But if you go more pure.. you got more clearer strenghts and weaknesses and when you know them.. you can make a strategy for it and be dangerouse. but hybrids can only make you laught yourself to death.
so best way against a hybrid is to let them start.. laugh for about 15min when they do their best attacks on you... go get some to eat... then get back when you are done... buff up...and show them what real dmg is...
and you must think nah he must be a blader...nope pure int, so if you can't kill me.. then you pretty much can only take other hybrids... then again.. this is only with hybrid int. dunno how it is with hybrid str but can't be much better..and 1:1 lol d.amn then i would really die of laughing....
ppl aren't affraid of the unknown.. they know and think that everybody does... it's like stating the obvious... nobody has to say it.
so i said it before and i'll say it again.. GO PURE!!! ps there are some hybrid builds that can be pretty strong. but imo you'll NEVER be as strong as a pure. You can at most not totally suck.
man i feel much better now.. 
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mohok
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:49 pm |
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i decided for pure str:) i made one:) lol
he's too good:) ty guys:)
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[Build] Pure STR / Glavie / Fire / Protector
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jichiong
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:48 pm |
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tnx flexo,
im not sure about the 1:1 build being very sucky. theoretically (coz i have no 1:1 char), shouldn't they be stronger against pur int coz they hit decent damage + have more hp than pur ints, so there's the chance to win? versus pur strs, 1:1 builds don't have high crits but they have higher regular damage. so they should do more dmg than pur strs ?
i agree, u don't have the strs of pures, but you also don't have their weaknesses. true going pure amplyfies the strength/weakness of the char and can make the player work on these, but this also means ur enemy can exploit ur weakness as well ?
just my thoughts
tnx flexo, always like ur views, u don't flame noobs like me 
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shadowman20875
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:55 pm |
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1st, using pots is a must! mmo 101
next, go 2:1 or 3:1 int heavy hybrid, good at pvp for trading needs, nice hp/mp for quests and such
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jichiong
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:18 pm |
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ThatOneMan3424 wrote: WOW a lvl 40 full int with only 1500hp....WTH has be been doing....im lvl 26 and i have about 1285 hp or somewhere around there....im full int to....
i like full int spear
maybe he's pur int s/s, no heuksal passives.  im lvl 24 with 850hp, so i should be more than 1500 at lvl 40 (w/ heuksal passive ofcors)
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Hitman144
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:00 am |
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i am a pure str lvl 32 , my hp is like almost 3k mana 1k < -- itz 900 with garments off
wear things with 3 int 100% to get more mana points
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flexo
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:46 am |
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jichiong wrote: tnx flexo, im not sure about the 1:1 build being very sucky. theoretically (coz i have no 1:1 char), shouldn't they be stronger against pur int coz they hit decent damage + have more hp than pur ints, so there's the chance to win? versus pur strs, 1:1 builds don't have high crits but they have higher regular damage. so they should do more dmg than pur strs ? i agree, u don't have the strs of pures, but you also don't have their weaknesses. true going pure amplyfies the strength/weakness of the char and can make the player work on these, but this also means ur enemy can exploit ur weakness as well ? just my thoughts tnx flexo, always like ur views, u don't flame noobs like me 
anytime man..
well imo especially 1:1 hybrids have little higher dmg..and little more hp. It ain't really some huge diffrence to be proud of. And pure int can shoot away that little extra dmg easy. And pure str can easily take that little extra dmg. I fought a guy that was almost 1:1 hybrid.. he nuked me 4times.. then tried a stun on me.. then a ghost spear.. and he never got my hp under 50%. And i'm pure int.. if you can't kill me.. you can't kill anybody.. Then i nuked him once and he died..
and yes enemy's will try to exploid your weakness.. that's what a good pvp'er does.. but then again if you're good too.. you'll know your weakness and willl compensate it with your strenghts.
But if you are a 1:1 hybrid then well.... you can't keep distance because you have average hp and do good dmg at a distance.... and at the same time.. keep close because you do average dmg with weapon skills and crits. I really wouldn't know how to fight with a hyrid like that.
and no I usually don't flame ppl.. only ppl that say pure int s.ucks at pvp.. cause then you get me pissed.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:09 pm |
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I had a 1:1 char, he also had every skill tree up to at least 20.
I got him to level 26, and it was really slow leveling, I was having horrible luck with quest drops, and also felt like making a hybrid int, so kinda fell away from him and ended up raiding him for all his supplies, stored them. and deleted him.
In that tournament they had last year, I think someone made a 1:1 hybrid and did very well, maybe even won. But I can't remember that well.
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jichiong
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:35 pm |
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Mauler109 wrote: I had a 1:1 char, he also had every skill tree up to at least 20.
I got him to level 26, and it was really slow leveling, I was having horrible luck with quest drops, and also felt like making a hybrid int, so kinda fell away from him and ended up raiding him for all his supplies, stored them. and deleted him.
In that tournament they had last year, I think someone made a 1:1 hybrid and did very well, maybe even won. But I can't remember that well.
i read it here somewhere that the 1st and 2nd place were hybrid 1:1 and int heavy 2:1, respectively. then michael jordan was also in the list.  would have wanted to search for the thread, though im too lazy 
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flexo
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:50 pm |
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jichiong wrote: Mauler109 wrote: I had a 1:1 char, he also had every skill tree up to at least 20.
I got him to level 26, and it was really slow leveling, I was having horrible luck with quest drops, and also felt like making a hybrid int, so kinda fell away from him and ended up raiding him for all his supplies, stored them. and deleted him.
In that tournament they had last year, I think someone made a 1:1 hybrid and did very well, maybe even won. But I can't remember that well. i read it here somewhere that the 1st and 2nd place were hybrid 1:1 and int heavy 2:1, respectively. then michael jordan was also in the list.  would have wanted to search for the thread, though im too lazy 
lol yeah i bet the first place was for 1:1 hybrid int bow with cold. and the contest was "wich builds s.uck most".. dunno what jordan was doing there though 
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