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OMG fat smurf you are an idiot (sorry but i must say this)..

I am playing 9 months on babel server and there was only 1 big bot ban

They made image ver. code screen to stop botters from auto login, but with this ticket they go in first try - so hell yea best update for your botting experience - smooth and easy (btw they are paying coustomers cause they pay for bot)..

I buy silk. and all cool.. but JM takes me for an idiot with this crowded server sht.. What if we all buy premium ticket there will be no crowded servers or WTF dude



first, we got bot ban but people cry like 3 second after cause they want more...

second image code is to prevent autologin, and I don't get why u said now botter can login? it wont allow u to auto relog... it allow you get in without waiting like a retard.

third if everyone buy premium ticket they will increase server slot since they will have ton of money.

and last: you sir, are the idiot here.

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lol it's one of the ebst update in a long time... they add new ticket wich will help player to grind and do alchemy and even allow paying customer to log in. I mean yes it's a f2p but paying customer should have betetr service that's the whole point of paying. They add a new way to trade, now it's harder and ALOT more fun than before, give a challenge ^^.


but people still cry cause everything joymax will do wont be good. You guy cry cause of botter, they do a bot ban with like 1k people from each server and meh joymax is teh suck didn't banned the right guy that I hate...

you complain about server traffic, joymax fix it with a new ticket: omg haymax I dont buy silk and that's so unfair I want squirrel too and the same stuff paying customer have!!!.

you guy complain about alchemy. they give ticket with better alchemy chance, omg suckz0r not fair I dont buy silk stupid joymax.



so wanna know why you should be happy about this new ticket if you dont buy silk? ticket is like twice the normal gt cost, that bring alot of money to joymax wich mean they will be able to afford better service for isro = faster update, less server crash, more event and we might see GM more often



so Enjoy sro or quit and stop making dumb post about you leaving cause no one give a damn here. if you wanna complain and cry go to myspace and talkshit about how life is so unfair.


let us enjoy a great game.


+415616818168 TOTALLY right

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I gotta say though, everyone keeps saying the +5% alchemy success is some huge thing. It helps a tiny bit on stones but don't count on it to help elixer alchemy a noticeable amount. Lucky powder increases your odds by 50% at 0 -> 1, 33% at 1 -> 2, 25% at 2 -> 3, etc so 5% isn't much. I think it doubles your odds if you're going for like +9 or something but going from just about impossible to half as impossible isn't much :P still about a 1 in 10 chance.

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OMG SO HAPPY HAPPY we got it earlier xD sweet 80-90 cap will be very soon then

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must ask to Oracle if is fair or not... :x

Hahaha Is fair now. I dont have other dont have :D so is your turn now :!: :!:

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im enjoying my premium ticket.

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Fly is loyal to a fault. He got screwed by JM, called a botter by them, but still refuses to believe that JM doesnt give a fu about it's customers. It's one of the things I like about him. We do not agree on this (guess I am sucking some tittie?)

The way I see it the login thing works one of three ways, all are bad.

1. The cap on the server is raised.

2. The cap is the same, but a nonpaying player get booted for a paying one.

3. When you start a ticket, a slot is reserved for you making the number of slots on the server one less for non paying players. Example: The server is 1000 total, when a new PT is activated, that number becomes 999 slots. 1000 total, 999 for non paying, 1 for PT. When a second is purchased, it goes to 998 slots, 2 for GT, etc.

Either way it works, the "f2p" part of the game becomes more of a myth and JM is using the game's problems, ie botters and login issues, to make money off the rest of the ppl.


They compound this by screwing up the job system (a level 20 can spawn thieves bad enough to kill a lvl 80 and 25 at once?) And adding a chat filter that is insanely retarded.

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Fly is loyal to a fault. He got screwed by JM, called a botter by them, but still refuses to believe that JM doesnt give a fu about it's customers. It's one of the things I like about him. We do not agree on this (guess I am sucking some tittie?)

The way I see it the login thing works one of three ways, all are bad.

1. The cap on the server is raised.

2. The cap is the same, but a nonpaying player get booted for a paying one.

3. When you start a ticket, a slot is reserved for you making the number of slots on the server one less for non paying players. Example: The server is 1000 total, when a new PT is activated, that number becomes 999 slots. 1000 total, 999 for non paying, 1 for PT. When a second is purchased, it goes to 998 slots, 2 for GT, etc.

Either way it works, the "f2p" part of the game becomes more of a myth and JM is using the game's problems, ie botters and login issues, to make money off the rest of the ppl.



happy? you wont be dc cause a paying member log in :) you just wont be able to log in cause joymax is keepy my seat warm so I can enjoy it ^^

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:50 pm 
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Fly wrote:

the ticket + the anti-turk pig + part of the job update = hell yeah, best update in a long time.

complainers can all suk my left titty.


rofl about the pig

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Fly is loyal to a fault. He got screwed by JM, called a botter by them, but still refuses to believe that JM doesnt give a fu about it's customers. It's one of the things I like about him. We do not agree on this (guess I am sucking some tittie?)

The way I see it the login thing works one of three ways, all are bad.

1. The cap on the server is raised.

2. The cap is the same, but a nonpaying player get booted for a paying one.

3. When you start a ticket, a slot is reserved for you making the number of slots on the server one less for non paying players. Example: The server is 1000 total, when a new PT is activated, that number becomes 999 slots. 1000 total, 999 for non paying, 1 for PT. When a second is purchased, it goes to 998 slots, 2 for GT, etc.

Either way it works, the "f2p" part of the game becomes more of a myth and JM is using the game's problems, ie botters and login issues, to make money off the rest of the ppl.


They compound this by screwing up the job system (a level 20 can spawn thieves bad enough to kill a lvl 80 and 25 at once?) And adding a chat filter that is insanely retarded.


+1

F2P? since when JM cared about being free. They make the game boring and long to level to almost force you to buy GT, and picking pets to avoid getting drops yourself.
Every step they take is nearer to be P2P, you don't "need" to pay but you will be overwhelmed by people who can/want to do it (besides botters of course). So you won't be even able to play.

Anyway, i'm happy i moved to cSRO, enjoy the PT for those who buy silk. It's good to see that at least some people are getting hopes back... though there will be more angriness and unhappiness too...


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silkbuyers --> love this update.
non silkbuyers --> hate this update.


simple as that.

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If we think about Premiere "always can log in" service for a moment, the 1st folks to get it will be the botters who are willing to shell out some money to make a TON more real money from folks wanting to buy gold to get the SoX weapons the botters are selling for 500M!!! :banghead:

Now if JoyMax had a proven track record of putting money back into the game to add servers, network bandwidth, etc. to improve the overall gaming experience that would be 1 thing, but unfortunately they have not demonstrated this as yet... :cry:

A few other games have adopted Premiere like service and have created separate servers for players willing to pay. This might have been a better approach. :?:


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happy? you wont be dc cause a paying member log in :) you just wont be able to log in cause joymax is keepy my seat warm so I can enjoy it ^^


Yeah well, as long as it benefits you personally, it doesnt matter if it's right, is that what you are saying?

As an international game, there are still many countries who are still unable to purchase silk. Africa and a few others. Also the service, as it is currently, is substandard and paying for it is just idiotic. Are ppl so powerless in RL that owning a little bit in a video game is enough?


Let me add that you are basically paying JM to leave the current issues, login and bots, in place.

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happy? you wont be dc cause a paying member log in :) you just wont be able to log in cause joymax is keepy my seat warm so I can enjoy it ^^


Yeah well, as long as it benefits you personally, it doesnt matter if it's right, is that what you are saying?

As an international game, there are still many countries who are still unable to purchase silk. Africa and a few others. Also the service, as it is currently, substandard and paying for it is just idiotic. Are ppl so powerless in RL that owning a little bit in a video game is enough?
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Lol your guilt trip or whatever you were trying to do there is pathetic. Honestly, 20 dollars to me is nothing. I'm getting a ticket just to see how I like it. And powerless in RL? How so? How does this relate ANYWAY?

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the game was alright, and with every update it goes further and further down the toilette.

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first, we got bot ban but people cry like 3 second after cause they want more...

second image code is to prevent autologin, and I don't get why u said now botter can login? it wont allow u to auto relog... it allow you get in without waiting like a retard.

third if everyone buy premium ticket they will increase server slot since they will have ton of money.

and last: you sir, are the idiot here.


by fat smurf

First: of all 1000 or less banned bots in 9 months and there are like 10000 minimum ATM - yeah joly good

Second: i write slow this time - I am not talking about autologin I am talking about boters buying premium and connecting first try (or they can buy it?)

Third JM raised over 100mil US$ from SRO (world edition not ksro) and in 9 months i didnt see a freaking 1$ invested in game and gaming experience.

BTW i am buying silk, i love this game, and I HAVE RIGHT TO SAY IT'S SHT IF I WANT TO.

thats all,

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OK let me put it in black and white, short simple sentences.

YOU ARE PAYING JM TO LEAVE THE GAME IN IT'S CURRENTLY farked UP STATE BY BUYING A PT.

If they make money off crowded servers, why fix them? Most games have mutiple channel servers to slough off overcrowding. JM doesnt bother, they are gonna make MONEY from it, so leave it crowded.

TIme bot bans with new items and new servers to make money. Let them propigate inbetween "big ban lists" and let ppl get angry and frustrated in order for them to make MONEY.

Further the myth of f2p so when Joe Schmoe starts playing a game he thinks is free he ends up spending MONEY when he discovers the imbalances of the game.

They cant find the time or resources to give us an event, GMs, security, update their ToS, working game updates, bot control, over crowded server solutions, a website with even 1/8 the content of the dying KSRO, customer service, but they can certainly find ways to make more MONEY.

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I have to agree with everything Nightbloom has written so far. No problems have been solved for so long. But still they think we are supposed to pay even more now for things they keep ignoring to fix.

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OK let me put it in black and white, short simple sentences.

YOU ARE PAYING JM TO LEAVE THE GAME IN IT'S CURRENTLY farked UP STATE BY BUYING A PT.

If they make money off crowded servers, why fix them? Most games have mutiple channel servers to slough off overcrowding. JM doesnt bother, they are gonna make MONEY from it, so leave it crowded.

TIme bot bans with new items and new servers to make money. Let them propigate inbetween "big ban lists" and let ppl get angry and frustrated in order for them to make MONEY.

Further the myth of f2p so when Joe Schmoe starts playing a game he thinks is free he ends up spending MONEY when he discovers the imbalances of the game.

They cant find the time or resources to give us an event, GMs, update their ToS, working game updates, a website with even 1/8 the content of the dying KSRO, but they can certainly find ways to make more MONEY.


hehe i love to read word of a smart angry person.

Capitalism FTW

Who cares about people?! Money... grrr.. i want more MONEY!!!.... Greeennn - JM

Don't you see? is the same as in a book/movie story or w/e the best thing to take advantage is doing bad stuff (murders, thief, betrayal, etc) with a "good/decent" mask on. That way the "villan" makes more profit. But unlike fantasy stories, the society allows and supports capitalism. Money moves the world do you like it or not (money doesn't move (all) people though).


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i got no problem with GM, so i have no prob buying one.

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+1 to that..

but try to explain to all this kids that in real world it is better to make
3 factories which produces drugs for slowing illnes than
invent one cure which removes the illness..

while you all pay there will be problems, if you dont pay there will be problems.

So maybe I will buy it 2 but i will never say that this is "the best thing ever"..

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i got no problem with GM, so i have no prob buying one.


Well the Germans loved Hitler too.

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Yes but Hitler loved germans 2. He wanted to give them whole world.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt the bot software allow people to log in first try?

In theory, your paying real money now to to the same thing bots do for free?

Either way.

What nonsense. Again:

Ryoko wrote:
Cable modem company A costs 35$ a month and always works.

Cable modem company B costs 35$ a month and connects 50% of the time.

Cable company A offers customer care, automatic updates and support.

Cable company B has an offer for 50% more a month, it will always connect.

Gratz on your purchase.


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Its not about that

Its the principal idea of what you would expect when you pay for something

And so many people just lay there and take it, then come to the forum to tell us how much it hurt

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But really what have hitler to do whit online game?

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Ryoko wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt the bot software allow people to log in first try?

In theory, your paying real money now to to the same thing bots do for free?

Either way.

What nonsense. Again:

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Cable modem company A costs 35$ a month and always works.

Cable modem company B costs 35$ a month and connects 50% of the time.

Cable company A offers customer care, automatic updates and support.

Cable company B has an offer for 50% more a month, it will always connect.

Gratz on your purchase.


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Its not about that

Its the principal idea of what you would expect when you pay for something

And so many people just lay there and take it, then come to the forum to tell us how much it hurt

Seriously!


RYOKO!!!!!!!! *tackle HUGZ* Long time no see!

back on topic: And dont say it's cause I cant buy silk. I used to. As a matter of fact, I personally have spent over $1000 on this game till I realized what crock it is.

BlackFox I luv ya hunnie, but you are too literal. Some people love things that benefit them, even if it craps on everyone else.

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Hai.

Good lord your sig is hot.


hee hee

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RYOKO!!!!!!!! *tackle HUGZ* Long time no see!

back on topic: And dont say it's cause I cant buy silk. I used to. As a matter of fact, I personally have spent over $1000 on this game till I realized what crock it is.

BlackFox I luv ya hunnie, but you are too literal. Some people love things that benefit them, even if it craps on everyone else.


Yea you have true there ....But you know be always hackers/ scammers and so on ..But yea they are smart when they fix some premium ticket so some ppl can log in even if is server traffic / But all cant buy it. About it I can agree...

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NB is 100% spot on. Those are the reasons I did what Ryoko did. I was paying the same amount for what I saw as a sub-par game, vs one that had a ton of content, GM's who pm you within 30 minutes, and none of the problems iSRO has. I'm a lot happier, and honestly had Ryoko not posted what he posted above the seed wouldn't have been planted to make me try out "the other game".

And yeah, NB your sig *is* hawt.

EDIT: Regarding the partial job update, did they at least fix it so thieves don't spawn NPC thieves anymore? Or did popper just get a huge helping hand from JM?


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