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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Wed May 16, 2007 3:09 pm  |  |  
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					| if i didn't quit my gear would of been 60/60 o.o
 and i know other people out of heaven and reborn that have 60/60 lol.
 you dont know everyone on aege   
 
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			| Xiao_xin | 
				
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					| mosiac wrote: if i didn't quit my gear would of been 60/60 o.o and i know other people out of heaven and reborn that have 60/60 lol. you dont know everyone on aege   Yes you are right I don't know everyone on Aege.
 But honestly, I don't trust these "other" people got 5/5 STR INT without buying more gold than I could imagine buying or using bots (tab/gold/element farming bots)
 Would love to know who these players are.
 Would love to know who you are.
 BTW if you are talking about 7th degree, don't care.  STR tabs and stones for anything other than 8th degree are so cheap, makes me cry when I see prices of 8th degree._________________
 
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Wed May 16, 2007 4:03 pm  |  |  
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					| Really, its not that hard.
 Think about it, once your capped and farmed, waiting at 99.99% for the cap to raise, what else do you have to do? Pimp your gear. Making money in this game when that is all you have to focus on is easy.
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			| lynxz | 
				
									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Wed May 16, 2007 4:32 pm  |  |  
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					| Xiao_xin wrote: mosiac wrote: if i didn't quit my gear would of been 60/60 o.o and i know other people out of heaven and reborn that have 60/60 lol. you dont know everyone on aege   Yes you are right I don't know everyone on Aege. But honestly, I don't trust these "other" people got 5/5 STR INT without buying more gold than I could imagine buying or using bots (tab/gold/element farming bots) Would love to know who these players are. Would love to know who you are. BTW if you are talking about 7th degree, don't care.  STR tabs and stones for anything other than 8th degree are so cheap, makes me cry when I see prices of 8th degree.Seen Xfactor's set? Lol.. oh and Adonia..
 Asilaz has full 5 str on his set as well I believe, but he also buys gold.. 99% sure of that :\_________________
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			| mosiac | 
				
									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Wed May 16, 2007 5:19 pm  |  |  
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					| im mosiac duhhh.
xfactor had a +5 no astral 60/60 set o,o
 tarik, shireef, catalon, adonia .. id have to reinstall sro to find more ><
 and i mean 8degree lol
 
 
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			| Xiao_xin | 
				
									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Wed May 16, 2007 7:05 pm  |  |  
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					| mosiac wrote: im mosiac duhhh.xfactor had a +5 no astral 60/60 set o,o
 tarik, shireef, catalon, adonia .. id have to reinstall sro to find more ><
 and i mean 8degree lol
 xFactor might as well be in Heaven or ReborN, just as much of a loser
 Secondly, my gears are better than tarik's, shireef's and adonia's
 So you haven't named anyone outside Heaven who has perfect 5/5 yet.
 And, who is mosaic?_________________
 
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			| mosiac | 
				
									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Wed May 16, 2007 8:10 pm  |  |  
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					| im mosiac. duhh.
seriously, listen to yourself man ><
 so how do you have a better set than shireef and adonia o,O? both have +5 60/60.. read your own sig =x
 only diffrence between yours and tariks and catas is 1 +.
 and why are you even comparing your gear to peoples, i thought we were talking about legit 60/60s.. not yours =/
 
 
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			| mosiac | 
				
									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 17, 2007 2:52 am  |  |  
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					| adonia had 60/60 when he was in Bia; when he was lv80 capped.. ask him yourself
 i also saw shireef's 60/60 set myself.. why would i lie about this     tarik doesnt bot, and yet again you're comparing yourself to another player.. we're talking about 60/60 sets not pvp     .
 get back on topiccccccccccccccccccc
 
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			| iGod | 
				
									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Wed May 30, 2007 10:44 am  |  |  
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					| Updated my gear a bit      Need to get 400 hp on the head :/
 
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			| Crumpets | 
				
									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Wed May 30, 2007 11:40 am  |  |  
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					| O hax O.o. Can't wait till you are 77+ iGod ... seeing as you like your alchemy might be one of the first non sun glaives that actually kill me ;P
 Anyway .. I switch from Protector to Garment... Lost 5 STR doing that but gained 3 with Premium Ticket. So ... I dunno I'm 5 STR from perfect alchemy grrrr 5 x 45 = 225 extra hp ... which would give me over 10k as a pure int WOOT.
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			| achmalach | 
				
									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Wed May 30, 2007 12:30 pm  |  |  
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					| i can only dream of those phy balance :/
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 1:02 am  |  |  
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					| Crumpets wrote: O hax O.o. Can't wait till you are 77+ iGod ... seeing as you like your alchemy might be one of the first non sun glaives that actually kill me ;P hehe i doubt ill make it that far... im really getting into nuking stuff  
 
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			| Spongey | 
				
									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 1:40 am  |  |  
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					|   1 Int missing on Ring,
 Thats with S/S on.
 
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 5:12 am  |  |  
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					| Pulsartm wrote:  does somebody know if i can get more phy bal then 109% i have now 53/55 max str  +2 str from dragon flag....  looking on page 2 i have more hp then lvl 62 pure str ^_^
 from looking at all 6 pages i have highest phy balance woot ^_^
 
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 5:27 am  |  |  
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					| srry for double posting but this topic should be sticked. 
 
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 5:57 am  |  |  
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					| Once you get to 76+ you need more str/int for the balances. As technically 9d gear can have upto 6 str/int, we just don't have it yet. At least, I think anyway  _________________
 
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 6:00 am  |  |  
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					| StealMySoda wrote: Once you get to 76+ you need more str/int for the balances. As technically 9d gear can have upto 6 str/int, we just don't have it yet. At least, I think anyway  Also. STR is alot harder to get high as apposed to int._________________
 
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			| achmalach | 
				
									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 8:29 am  |  |  
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					| how much % phy balance do you get if you add 35 str? _________________
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 11:25 am  |  |  
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					| MastaChiefX wrote: StealMySoda wrote: Once you get to 76+ you need more str/int for the balances. As technically 9d gear can have upto 6 str/int, we just don't have it yet. At least, I think anyway  Also. STR is alot harder to get high as apposed to int.Amen, I cant be bothered changing the 4 4str's I have. It'll only make me poor again. StealMySoda wrote: Once you get to 76+ you need more str/int for the balances. As technically 9d gear can have upto 6 str/int, we just don't have it yet. At least, I think anyway Yup true, at 80 we should allready have hands/talismans/feet/head/legs + rings/earrings/neck + not to forget 9th weapons.
 So thats a total of  400 hp stamina , 9 str from cothing . 2 str from sword / shield.  So thats 400 + ( 9 x 45 ) + ( 2 x 45 ) = Extra 895 hp.
 All with max 6str and 2 pieces [ heads/legs ] with 600 hp. Quite sad really =/_________________
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 11:42 am  |  |  
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					| so if i read all this correct:
 1 str adds 45HP?
 1 int adds 45MP?
 
 both on clothes as the levelling points?
 
 is there a simple relation on how adding str to equipment influences your balances?
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 11:48 am  |  |  
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					| I think it depends on lvl .... Lower lvls i remember adding 3 str and it raising 10% But at 80 it's 3-4 str for 1%.
 And 1 str is 45 hp ... don't know and don't really care about mp. But theres also like a fixed amount of hp you get when you lvl too.
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 12:05 pm  |  |  
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					| Innovacious wrote: i just realised the image is over 1mb    , ill link to it instead of posting it directly, cant be bothered to re-upload it. link They could be better than this if i got some new gear i need to get lvl 60 gloves, lvl 61 shoulders and another lvl 60 ring im still using lvl 54 feet and earrings too, ill have to upgrade to 62 next level. Anywho, full int except i accidently put 2 points into str at lvl 10. This char was an alt char back them and my main was str, so i happily clicked str twice then thought "oh shit! im int!"lol damn man...I would have just started over. That would have bugged the hell outta me.  :/
 And a question to the lvl 7x people...how much exp do you get per monster at 0 gap? 100 mil+ exp is alot to grind.  O_o
 
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 12:08 pm  |  |  
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					| HP + MP formula:
 Code: HP = 10 * 1.02^(LVL-1) * STRMP = 10 * 1.02^(LVL-1) * INT
 Balance formula Code: maxstat =  28 + lvl * 4int_balance = min( 100, 100 * int / maxstat )
 str_balance = min( 100, 100 - (  100 * 2/3 * ( maxstat  - str  )  /  maxstat ) )
 
 This is that is posted on the forum, but actually this formula dont allows balances higher than 100, so really is just like this part of the formula: Code: maxstat =  28 + lvl * 4int_balance = 100, 100 * int / maxstat
 str_balance = 100 - (  100 * 2/3 * ( maxstat  - str  )  /  maxstat )
 
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 12:36 pm  |  |  
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					| tomiotar wrote: HP + MP formula: Code: HP = 10 * 1.02^(LVL-1) * STRMP = 10 * 1.02^(LVL-1) * INT
 Balance formula Code: maxstat =  28 + lvl * 4int_balance = min( 100, 100 * int / maxstat )
 str_balance = min( 100, 100 - (  100 * 2/3 * ( maxstat  - str  )  /  maxstat ) )
 
 This is that is posted on the forum, but actually this formula dont allows balances higher than 100, so really is just like this part of the formula: Code: maxstat =  28 + lvl * 4int_balance = 100, 100 * int / maxstat
 str_balance = 100 - (  100 * 2/3 * ( maxstat  - str  )  /  maxstat )
 
What is the ^ in that first formula?
 In the second formula is str/int the total of all str and int points (both on gear and level points?)_________________
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 12:43 pm  |  |  
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					| the ^ means "to the power of" e.g. 2^4 means 2*2*2*2 _________________
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 12:55 pm  |  |  
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					| so level 79 would be
 HP=10 * 1.02^78 * STR
 
 STR being the combination of both STR on gear as stat points from levelling?
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									|  Post subject:   Posted:  Thu May 31, 2007 2:04 pm  |  |  
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					| achmalach wrote: so level 79 would be
 HP=10 * 1.02^78 * STR
 
 STR being the combination of both STR on gear as stat points from levelling?
 Yeah... well, plus the extra hp from heuksal passive and equip._________________
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