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exality
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Post subject: Lightning vs fire Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:39 pm |
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what is best for a pure int swordsman for grinding and leveling not for pvp
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:45 pm |
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i think both is fine, if you get fire get light as main but if you get light, get fire as main.
but my preference is fire because it has a better effect and does a little more damage.
i light the animation of lightning more though
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:48 pm |
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well heres the thing i have lvl 41 fire and lvl 3* lightning and i was gunna delevel 1 and i wanted to know the most valuable on for a int swordsman
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:50 pm |
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delevelling any of those 2, would be the biggest mistake you are going to make in this game
Fire/Lightning are absolute must for nukers 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:52 pm |
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lightning its buff makes up for the dmg lost from not using fire and it has grasswalk and lionshout but you really should get both fire and light
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:53 pm |
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lvl 80 cap you want to max fire max light and, so thats 80 + 80 = 160 so you still have quite a bit of mastery points left over, so from there I would max ice for a total of 240 mastery points, then you can get your weapon skill to 60

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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:55 pm |
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loll thats gunna be aton of buttons ima have to hit lol....so lvl up lightning fire and my weapon skills?
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:20 pm |
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exality wrote: loll thats gunna be aton of buttons ima have to hit lol....so lvl up lightning fire and my weapon skills?
lvl 80 cap you want to max fire, max light, max ice, and get your weapon skills to 60. Which will max out your mastery points @ 300/300.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:52 pm |
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Unlike most people say dont max your mastery lvls to 300...youll be screwed at 90 cap
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:37 pm |
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Light > fire for pure int.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:22 pm |
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Get lightening, Im tired of hearing ppl always say get fire imbue get fire imbue it's so much better bla bla, It's an imbue ffs, Looks cool anyways. To many ppl have fire and your gonna have to worry about masteries in future caps so why not save some money.
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Post subject: Re: Lightning vs fire Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:27 pm |
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exality wrote: what is best for a pure int swordsman for grinding and leveling not for pvp
lightning. it has two nukes a small and a big. one in cae the first one isn't enough, that plus lightning looks cooler. fire is boring
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:35 pm |
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AstaKilla wrote: Get lightening, Im tired of hearing ppl always say get fire imbue get fire imbue it's so much better bla bla, It's an imbue ffs, Looks cool anyways. To many ppl have fire and your gonna have to worry about masteries in future caps so why not save some money.
Fire Effect = Poison, drains down mob/players HP
Lightning Effect = WTF DOES NOTHING!! ><
Light Nuke = 1/3 of the nukes will be strong but its still strong
Fire Nuke 1/2 of the nukes will be strong but will be strong
I realize why most people are lightning in a pure int build, it's best for gold farming.
Fire nuking is so much better then lightning, I can say that because I switch from lightning to fire at LVL 45 and I'm LVL 54 now, or was on my main.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:05 pm |
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Lith wrote: AstaKilla wrote: Get lightening, Im tired of hearing ppl always say get fire imbue get fire imbue it's so much better bla bla, It's an imbue ffs, Looks cool anyways. To many ppl have fire and your gonna have to worry about masteries in future caps so why not save some money. Fire Effect = Poison, drains down mob/players HP Lightning Effect = WTF DOES NOTHING!! >< Light Nuke = 1/3 of the nukes will be strong but its still strong Fire Nuke 1/2 of the nukes will be strong but will be strong I realize why most people are lightning in a pure int build, it's best for gold farming. Fire nuking is so much better then lightning, I can say that because I switch from lightning to fire at LVL 45 and I'm LVL 54 now, or was on my main.
rofl fire imbue status is crap... it burn and get pilled away if ur not immune...
light imbu shock noob, it reduc parry ratio wich allow you to hit harder even if the guy pill it the nuke will strike before status is removed.
and with no immune people will use pill so burning will be crap.. only good thing about fire is the range of the nuke. light bounce it's betetr imho
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:13 pm |
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MastaChiefX wrote: Light > fire for pure int.
really? how (curious again)
wait for imbue or nukes?
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:15 pm |
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Taken barely, light is better then fire for pure INT (as Masta said)
But the best pure INT's right now have both fire and light.
Fire for the pro. imbue and strong nukes and light for important mag. attk buffs and transfer nukes.
All in all, lightning and fire work together excellently for a pure INT, at the current cap.
Lightning is a must for any build. At the 90 cap, with the new skills, people might switch fire for ice, and use thunder imbue.
The reason is the new ice buff. With sword dances / ghost spears, AoE nukes combined with a transfer nuke and transfer imbue makes formibidable grinding machines.
The ability to tank a lot and deal lots of time the same time, for a short period of time gives the build great advantages in PvP.
However, fire/light will remain a viable option after the cap raise.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:22 pm |
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PureOwnage wrote: lvl 80 cap you want to max fire max light and, so thats 80 + 80 = 160 so you still have quite a bit of mastery points left over, so from there I would max ice for a total of 240 mastery points, then you can get your weapon skill to 60 
sorry but in every topic i read with your reply, u think you know best but actually. for a pure int, WHY THE HELL WOULD IT NEED MAX COLD? for the extra dmg? every player is imune to cold, the nukers are weak and the imbue isnt even better. The phy def wont increase >.< Weapon skills at lvl 60??? HELL no they nuker's best friend in PvP. 80 Fire, 80light, 72bich/hek, 68 cold
EDIT: Sorry I might look a bit angry/aggresive, just back from 12 hour work shift soz lol
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:40 pm |
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Estranged wrote: PureOwnage wrote: lvl 80 cap you want to max fire max light and, so thats 80 + 80 = 160 so you still have quite a bit of mastery points left over, so from there I would max ice for a total of 240 mastery points, then you can get your weapon skill to 60  sorry but in every topic i read with your reply, u think you know best but actually. for a pure int, WHY THE HELL WOULD IT NEED MAX COLD? for the extra dmg? every player is imune to cold, the nukers are weak and the imbue isnt even better. The phy def wont increase >.< Weapon skills at lvl 60??? HELL no they nuker's best friend in PvP. 80 Fire, 80light, 72bich/hek, 68 cold EDIT: Sorry I might look a bit angry/aggresive, just back from 12 hour work shift soz lol
he/she was describing a pure nuker...weapon skills for a pure int at lv 80 are almost useless unless of course u have a sosun spear or sword
and light imbue is better then fire for grinding...lightning transfers damage to near by targets and reduces parry of mob ( not that reducing a mob's parry is all that important)
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:13 pm |
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MADD wrote: Estranged wrote: PureOwnage wrote: lvl 80 cap you want to max fire max light and, so thats 80 + 80 = 160 so you still have quite a bit of mastery points left over, so from there I would max ice for a total of 240 mastery points, then you can get your weapon skill to 60  sorry but in every topic i read with your reply, u think you know best but actually. for a pure int, WHY THE HELL WOULD IT NEED MAX COLD? for the extra dmg? every player is imune to cold, the nukers are weak and the imbue isnt even better. The phy def wont increase >.< Weapon skills at lvl 60??? HELL no they nuker's best friend in PvP. 80 Fire, 80light, 72bich/hek, 68 cold EDIT: Sorry I might look a bit angry/aggresive, just back from 12 hour work shift soz lol he/she was describing a pure nuker...weapon skills for a pure int at lv 80 are almost useless unless of course u have a sosun spear or sword and light imbue is better then fire for grinding...lightning transfers damage to near by targets and reduces parry of mob ( not that reducing a mob's parry is all that important)
a pure int wouldnt want to use the weak cold nukes >.<
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:33 pm |
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Fat_Smurf wrote: Lith wrote: AstaKilla wrote: Get lightening, Im tired of hearing ppl always say get fire imbue get fire imbue it's so much better bla bla, It's an imbue ffs, Looks cool anyways. To many ppl have fire and your gonna have to worry about masteries in future caps so why not save some money. Fire Effect = Poison, drains down mob/players HP Lightning Effect = WTF DOES NOTHING!! >< Light Nuke = 1/3 of the nukes will be strong but its still strong Fire Nuke 1/2 of the nukes will be strong but will be strong I realize why most people are lightning in a pure int build, it's best for gold farming. Fire nuking is so much better then lightning, I can say that because I switch from lightning to fire at LVL 45 and I'm LVL 54 now, or was on my main. rofl fire imbue status is crap... it burn and get pilled away if ur not immune... Uh, not many people are fire immune, and plus the Burn status kills people or put their HP at stake, eventually killing them even with pills.light imbu shock noob, it reduc parry ratio wich allow you to hit harder even if the guy pill it the nuke will strike before status is removed. Lightning imbue is crap, the only thing good about is the buffs which makes the fire imbue a lot stronger then Lightning.
and with no immune people will use pill so burning will be crap.. only good thing about fire is the range of the nuke. light bounce it's betetr imho The lightning nuke transfers, but it's still weak because you only get 1/3 of the nukes, meaning you'll get one strong nuke out of 2 weak nukes.
Tell me one person in one server whose LVL 80 who has the light imbue maxed, that can beat a Pure STR Glavie or Blader, maxed.
EDIT: You need cold maxed because you need the Ice buff and passive to have a high phy defensive power.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:37 pm |
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some have it lol fire aint that great as imbue when immunity will be removed from the game people will use imbue for status cause imbue damage isn't really different and there was a thread with ton of proof about this.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:10 pm |
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MastaChiefX wrote: Light > fire for pure int.
+1
light nuke more raw dmg
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:23 pm |
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Sharp324 wrote: Unlike most people say dont max your mastery lvls to 300...youll be screwed at 90 cap
um thats like 1 year if you are close to 80 to get cursed hearts together to lvl down your skills. 90 cap wont be around for awhile.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:25 pm |
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PureOwnage wrote: Sharp324 wrote: Unlike most people say dont max your mastery lvls to 300...youll be screwed at 90 cap um thats like 1 year if you are close to 80 to get cursed hearts together to lvl down your skills. 90 cap wont be around for awhile.
...20+ mil on dlvling? not worth it
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:25 pm |
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LadyB wrote: i think both is fine, if you get fire get light as main but if you get light, get fire as main.
but my preference is fire because it has a better effect and does a little more damage.
i light the animation of lightning more though
lol, wtf do u even mean, get fire, fire is main...get light, light is main
fire does more dmg & will probably help u to 1 shot mobs than to 1nuke1shout 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:29 pm |
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sunmoon wrote: LadyB wrote: i think both is fine, if you get fire get light as main but if you get light, get fire as main.
but my preference is fire because it has a better effect and does a little more damage.
i light the animation of lightning more though lol, wtf do u even mean, get fire, fire is main...get light, light is main fire does more dmg & will probably help u to 1 shot mobs than to 1nuke1shout 
Wrong.
If a pure int has to pick between fire and light,
ALWAYS choose light.
Magical buffs, higher mag damage, and the parry effect is greater than the burn effect.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:35 pm |
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MastaChiefX wrote: sunmoon wrote: LadyB wrote: i think both is fine, if you get fire get light as main but if you get light, get fire as main.
but my preference is fire because it has a better effect and does a little more damage.
i light the animation of lightning more though lol, wtf do u even mean, get fire, fire is main...get light, light is main fire does more dmg & will probably help u to 1 shot mobs than to 1nuke1shout  Wrong. If a pure int has to pick between fire and light, ALWAYS choose light. Magical buffs, higher mag damage, and the parry effect is greater than the burn effect.
i meant fire & light & screw ice if ur just into pve
fire imbue + peircing buff > light imbue + peircing buff
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:36 pm |
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shadowman20875 wrote: PureOwnage wrote: Sharp324 wrote: Unlike most people say dont max your mastery lvls to 300...youll be screwed at 90 cap um thats like 1 year if you are close to 80 to get cursed hearts together to lvl down your skills. 90 cap wont be around for awhile. ...20+ mil on dlvling? not worth it
20+ mill not really dude. Plz show me where delvling a mastery by 10 lvls and the skills within will cost 20 mill, as there are no lvl 80 skills, highest skill is 69 you dont have to pay to lvl down skills first you can just drop mastery lvls. So please, please for the sake of all that is good PROVE IT! 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:39 pm |
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PureOwnage wrote: shadowman20875 wrote: PureOwnage wrote: Sharp324 wrote: Unlike most people say dont max your mastery lvls to 300...youll be screwed at 90 cap um thats like 1 year if you are close to 80 to get cursed hearts together to lvl down your skills. 90 cap wont be around for awhile. ...20+ mil on dlvling? not worth it 20+ mill not really dude. Plz show me where delvling a mastery by 10 lvls and the skills within will cost 20 mill, as there are no lvl 80 skills, highest skill is 69 you dont have to pay to lvl down skills first you can just drop mastery lvls. So please, please for the sake of all that is good PROVE IT! 
took barely 10mil to delvl glave from 69=>0 (maxed soul spear, ghost spear, flying dragon, chains, hp passive, fan spear)
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