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fena
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Post subject: Is Life Being Wasted? Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:12 pm |
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In no way is this thread intended to create flames... I'd just like to voice my opinion, and hear what you guys think about it. Do you guys think like me, or am I just a freak?
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Why do you play SRO, or any game in general?
Pertaining specifically to SRO, many of you complain about the game, it's poor management, the botters, jerks, gold-buyers... why do you stay with it? You grind hard, you grind even harder, you play 6-7 hours a day, there goes your summer – and still, you see the botters rush past you, to 80, fully farmed, and own you in PvP with a gold-bought SoSun 64+9 Glavie.
I'm contemplating quitting the game, is all. All of a sudden, it just seems like a sudden waste of life. You farm, and you farm, and you farm, at the Bandit Stronghold, and get 250k SP. You 0-gap all the way up to 80, get a nice weapon, and pwnz0rz everybody your level.
Then what?
You're actually 80-years-old IRL, and you sit back in your rocking chair, and you reflect on what you spent your childhood doing. Or your young adulthood, for some people. Which are supposed to be the golden years, the best years of your life.
While other people were hanging out with their friends, playing basketball, dating a girlfriend, you were in your house for hours, playing a game, that gets you to nowhere?
And BTW, once again, this isn’t a flame against you guys – the person that I listed above, that’s me. I’m like that. And yeah… I’m thinking about quitting – maybe I’ll come back when Europe comes out, just to try it out, but… I just don’t see what the entire point of playing SRO is – there’s a fine line between playing a game, and being relaxed by it… and being obsessed about it, banging your head on your keyboard because farming is SO damn boring.
What are your opinions? Do any of you feel the same way I do? I wish I could quit the game – but I can’t. Not enough willpower?  I mean… I just find it such a waste of life, all of a sudden – never felt this way before, but I’m feeling it now. I could be doing so many THINGS with my time. Learning how to do something new, learning another instrument… chasing after a girl.
Regardless if I quit or not, I’ll be sticking around SRF – this forum is awesome, and the community is great as well.
Your thoughts?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:28 pm |
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well entertainment is VERY important to humans, it keeps us living as well as food and water and air
SRO is a good source of entertainment, yes i do like RTS over MMOs, but either way its FUN
i do believe i have a life ( i have had a few gfs *did not break up cause of games.... or did it 0_o* go to the movies w/ friends, hangout at friends house, play sports, go to parks etc.) but games offer things that life doesnt, so i see no reason to balance games with life
so ur lvl 80 on SRO then what? u move on, u cant possibly think u learned NOTHING! from all that grinding, and ull take those lessons with u, whether its never play rpgs again, or patience, it HELPS
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:30 pm |
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It's very possible to play SRO and "have a life", you just have to moderate each of them.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:43 pm |
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StealMySoda wrote: It's very possible to play SRO and "have a life", you just have to moderate each of them.
Of course it is - the trouble is, some of us, like me, can't.
But let me ask you this - as a Level 80 (correct?), how many days, months, have you spent playing this game?
With that time, couldn't you have been doing things that had a more direct, productive impact upon your life?
What do you gain? IRL, I mean? You don't get to retire with a hundred million dollars and spend the rest of your life sitting in the Bahamas, because you played this game and got to 80, you know?
And TBH, what LESSONS do you learn?
Are we all just wasting our time here?
BTW, StealMySoda, I'm not flaming you or anything - I respect the fact that you're so high-leveled.  I'm just using you as an example. You've spent more time than me playing this game (and not just time, money too!) - so what do you think you get in return?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:55 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: StealMySoda wrote: It's very possible to play SRO and "have a life", you just have to moderate each of them. Of course it is - the trouble is, some of us, like me, can't.  But let me ask you this - as a Level 80 (correct?), how many days, months, have you spent playing this game? With that time, couldn't you have been doing things that had a more direct, productive impact upon your life? What do you gain? IRL, I mean? You don't get to retire with a hundred million dollars and spend the rest of your life sitting in the Bahamas, because you played this game and got to 80, you know? And TBH, what LESSONS do you learn? Are we all just wasting our time here? BTW, StealMySoda, I'm not flaming you or anything - I respect the fact that you're so high-leveled.  I'm just using you as an example. You've spent more time than me playing this game (and not just time, money too!) - so what do you think you get in return?
I met a great bunch of people, who hopefully I will keep in touch with for the rest of my life. When I ran GT i did play 3 hours a day. But really what is that? On weekdays its just a good reason not to do homework. And On weekends if I get home a bit late, I can just grind till the early hours of the morning.
Maybe I didn't earn anything in RL from this game, but I've learnt many lessons, met new great people. And I don't regret one minute I have "wasted" playing this game.
I don't play as much now due to the fact I'm at level 77 and can't be assed to grind anymore.
You basicly get out of this game, what you put into it.
And now I really don't know what I'm typing about so I'll just shut up and hit submit
*tries to remember if he actually had a point or not*
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:57 pm |
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This is damn true, if you're 40 years old and your own children play this game 6 hours a day, you would say the same thing!
But now we dont listen if someone says this...
I say always to people who want to start playing sro: dont start, this shit is just like smokin'... you'll be addicted, till you realize your life is over... 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:59 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: StealMySoda wrote: It's very possible to play SRO What do you gain? IRL, I mean? You don't get to retire with a hundred million dollars and spend the rest of your life sitting in the Bahamas, because you played this game and got to 80, you know? And TBH, what LESSONS do you learn?
What do you gain? Absolutely nothing except maybe a few memories. I think most of us here are not playing this game with ideas to get rich or anything like that, it's obvious if you wanna make money or be more intelligent then go read a book. If your playing a game and you still don't know WHY your playing it then you need to go take a hard look at yourself. Silkroad is just a game like Madden for example, it's just to provide some entertainment for whatever amount of hours with friends, so that when your older lets say you can lookback and remember the good times of your younger life.
So yeah botters will be lvl 80 with awesome sosun weapons and all that, so what? Does it mean anything in real life? It makes no difference if that person has a sun and "pwned" you 100 times with it, you just have to realize it's a game and has no meaning.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:00 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: You don't get to retire with a hundred million dollars and spend the rest of your life sitting in the Bahamas, because you played this game and got to 80, you know?
You know what else doesn't get you $100M and retirement in the Bahamas?
Reading books.
Watching movies.
Playing pickup games with your friends.
Going out to a nice dinner.
Going to church.
Raising your kids.
Doing volunteer charity work.
Yeah, I got no life.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:07 pm |
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non ego man wrote: FenaCorp wrote: You don't get to retire with a hundred million dollars and spend the rest of your life sitting in the Bahamas, because you played this game and got to 80, you know? You know what else doesn't get you $100M and retirement in the Bahamas? Reading books. Watching movies. Playing pickup games with your friends. Going out to a nice dinner. Going to church. Raising your kids. Doing volunteer charity work. Yeah, I got no life.
+1, true words.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:20 pm |
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kevv wrote: non ego man wrote: FenaCorp wrote: You don't get to retire with a hundred million dollars and spend the rest of your life sitting in the Bahamas, because you played this game and got to 80, you know? You know what else doesn't get you $100M and retirement in the Bahamas? Reading books. Watching movies. Playing pickup games with your friends. Going out to a nice dinner. Going to church. Raising your kids. Doing volunteer charity work. Yeah, I got no life. +1, true words.
Hold on, guys, keep it cool - once again, I'm not trying to start an argument or anything here.
And all of you make some excellent points.
However, non ego man - those things that you listed, they're actually... they benefit something - they help society in some way, or atleast, is more.. concrete? Raising kids - those benefit others rather than yourself. Doing volunteer charity work - isn't that a better use of your time, than SP Farming, getting to nowhere?
Once again, no flames, please. 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:25 pm |
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Still most here are gamers and i dont regret it i play for about 3 hours a day and do w/e for the rest of the day. You can do other things and play SR too
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:25 pm |
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depends of what you find important in life, if you think you are wasting your life then try working on the things you consider more important.
There are enough parents who play video games and still have a job, time for their kids and other important social things its how you manage your time that might be a problem at this moment.
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fena
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:28 pm |
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borat2 wrote: depends of what you find important in life, if you think you are wasting your life then try working on the things you consider more important.
There are enough parents who play video games and still have a job, time for their kids and other important social things its how you manage your time that might be a problem at this moment.
 For me, it is, haha.
I'm a loser. 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:31 pm |
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Silkroad is my TV replacement. Most people watch Tv, I play a mmo. Thats what is funny on the news and the forums. People claim you have no life for playing a game 5+ hours a day, but you do if you watch 5+ hours a TV a day? At least mine is interactive =)
I don't get to play as much as I use to but all I use to do is play silkroad and it saved me TONS of money, $40 a month in silk is nothing to what i can spend in 1 night of drinking.
But this debate can go both ways. I would rather see kids spending 8 hours a day on a computer then i would spending 8 hours a day smoking weed and stealing cars.
Its a no win argument.
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Post subject: Re: Is Life Being Wasted? Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:31 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: [size=15] You're actually 80-years-old IRL, and you sit back in your rocking chair, and you reflect on what you spent your childhood doing. Or your young adulthood, for some people. Which are supposed to be the golden years, the best years of your life. While other people were hanging out with their friends, playing basketball, dating a girlfriend, you were in your house for hours, playing a game, that gets you to nowhere? Your thoughts?[/b]
What is the meaning of life? Is it to have fun by going out and hanging around with your friends and all or is it to stay and play silkroad for the rest of your life? Are you wasting your life by playing silkroad, or are you wasting your life having fun with friends outside in the real world? For me, i play silk to have fun with my friends, would that be wasting my life? You say i have no life, but then again, what is our goal in life? I can you that you don't have a life either. I've never seen a rule or anything that was implanted to us at birth saying this is how you will live your life, and if you don't you're wasting it...Just my thoughts and opinion. 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:32 pm |
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Sroge wrote: Silkroad is my TV replacement. Most people watch Tv, I play a mmo. Thats what is funny on the news and the forums. People claim you have no life for playing a game 5+ hours a day, but you do if you watch 5+ hours a TV a day? At least mine is interactive =)
Same for me. =)
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Post subject: Re: Is Life Being Wasted? Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:36 pm |
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Diz wrote: FenaCorp wrote: [size=15] You're actually 80-years-old IRL, and you sit back in your rocking chair, and you reflect on what you spent your childhood doing. Or your young adulthood, for some people. Which are supposed to be the golden years, the best years of your life. While other people were hanging out with their friends, playing basketball, dating a girlfriend, you were in your house for hours, playing a game, that gets you to nowhere? Your thoughts?[/b] What is the meaning of life? Is it to have fun by going out and hanging around with your friends and all or is it to stay and play silkroad for the rest of your life? Are you wasting your life by playing silkroad, or are you wasting your life having fun with friends outside in the real world? For me, i play silk to have fun with my friends, would that be wasting my life? You say i have no life, but then again, what is our goal in life? I can you that you don't have a life either. I've never seen a rule or anything that was implanted to us at birth saying this is how you will live your life, and if you don't you're wasting it...Just my thoughts and opinion.  Woah, hold on - I never said that you were wasting your life, or anyone else that plays SRO for that matter. I'm just worried that when I'm older, and I look back upon my life, I won't really have much to look back upon, if that makes any sense. Sroge wrote: But this debate can go both ways. I would rather see kids spending 8 hours a day on a computer then i would spending 8 hours a day smoking weed and stealing cars.
Its a no win argument.
Excellent point. But what if the kid was spending his time doing charity work?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:36 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: those things that you listed, they're actually... they benefit something - they help society in some way, or atleast, is more.. concrete? Raising kids - those benefit others rather than yourself. Doing volunteer charity work - isn't that a better use of your time, than SP Farming, getting to nowhere?
Some do, some don't. They're not mutually exclusive. You know what, as an American, I have the resources available to me, just as an average person, to save lives. Many lives. I could dedicate my entire existence to helping others, like Mother Theresa. But I don't. Am I somehow bad because I haven't applied 100% of my resources and energy in altruistic endeavers?
I don't think so. I have my own business at a job I enjoy and I work hard (unless I'm posting on SRF). I sit on the board of a few charities, helping them to benefit society. But I also grind for a few hours, a few nights a week. And I watch movies and I read books, etc. etc. I balance my job, my family and my me time. If I give up one and apply too much of my time to the others, I usually end up depressed, resentful or poor (depending on what I've given up).
Take care of business and love and respect the people around you (including yourself). There's definitely room for SRO in that formula.
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Post subject: Re: Is Life Being Wasted? Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:41 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: Woah, hold on - I never said that you were wasting your life, or anyone else that plays SRO for that matter. I'm just worried that when I'm older, and I look back upon my life, I won't really have much to look back upon, if that makes any sense.
Well that depends, if you're able to remember what you did in a video game. I think the things you do in real life will be remembered more though. For example, i remember what i did in real life about three years ago better than i remember the great moments that me and my friends used to have on an online game we used to play a lot, and i mean A LOT! But then again, that's just me... 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:45 pm |
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non ego man wrote: FenaCorp wrote: those things that you listed, they're actually... they benefit something - they help society in some way, or atleast, is more.. concrete? Raising kids - those benefit others rather than yourself. Doing volunteer charity work - isn't that a better use of your time, than SP Farming, getting to nowhere? Some do, some don't. They're not mutually exclusive. You know what, as an American, I have the resources available to me, just as an average person, to save lives. Many lives. I could dedicate my entire existence to helping others, like Mother Theresa. But I don't. Am I somehow bad because I haven't applied 100% of my resources and energy in altruistic endeavers? I don't think so. I have my own business at a job I enjoy and I work hard (unless I'm posting on SRF). I sit on the board of a few charities, helping them to benefit society. But I also grind for a few hours, a few nights a week. And I watch movies and I read books, etc. etc. I balance my job, my family and my me time. If I give up one and apply too much of my time to the others, I usually end up depressed, resentful or poor (depending on what I've given up). Take care of business and love and respect the people around you (including yourself). There's definitely room for SRO in that formula.
Wow, you answered my entire question.
I get what you guys mean. Think it's just a problem with me, and controlling my time.
@ Diz, it's not just you. 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:52 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: Wow, you answered my entire question. 
And for that, you can give me your 32 SoM+4 Spear. 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:53 pm |
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non ego man wrote: FenaCorp wrote: Wow, you answered my entire question.  And for that, you can give me your 32 SoM+4 Spear. 
lol whats that worth, only 50m?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:58 pm |
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You have to be mildly retarded to still be playing this game without any "extra help".  Haven't you all seen on the servers...theres more and more bots everyday. Joymax bans them, they come back the next day and in three weeks they are close to 50.
People grind their chars for months then something happens and all joymax says is "sorry you gotta start over." Fk that.
Sro is a nice game to play on the side. But when it comes to playing a game for hours at a time, i'll stick to a p2p game like WoW.
-edit- and by extra help I mean having a friend that lives overseas and plays your char while you sleep or something. 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:00 pm |
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BuddahBless wrote: You have to be mildly retarded to still be playing this game without any "extra help". ;o Haven't you all seen on the servers...theres more and more bots everyday. Joymax bans them, they come back the next day and in three weeks they are close to 50.
People grind their chars for months then something happens and all joymax says is "sorry you gotta start over." Fk that.
Sro is a nice game to play on the side. But when it comes to playing a game for hours at a time, i'll stick to a p2p game like WoW.
WoW seriously needs to fix their graphics. Guild Wars used to look like that, but look at it now, great graphics. 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:10 pm |
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Yeah I'm sick of sro players always talking bad about WoW. In that game if your account gets hacked, even if it's your fault they will help you. Most of the time all or most of your items will be restored. And the community is 10x better than sro. I have never had anyone in WoW try to scam me. In sro there is an attempt to scam me every other trade I do.
I really could get into so much more about how WoW is better but I don't feel liek typing out 20 pages. ;o
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:17 pm |
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BuddahBless wrote: I really could get into so much more about how WoW is better but I don't feel liek typing out 20 pages.
Good, cause I don't feel like reading it. Seriously, don't become a Nightbloom and come back here at every opportunity and tell us how such-and-such game is so much better than SRO. We get it. Now move on.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:20 pm |
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Actually my goodbye thread was a joke. Everyone else was making a goodbye thread and I just wanted to join in and get flamed too.
I got a good laugh out of all you guys replies though. ;o
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Post subject: Re: Is Life Being Wasted? Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:24 pm |
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FenaCorp wrote: Excellent point. But what if the kid was spending his time doing charity work?
Its safe to say that is "Extremely" rare these days. Your throwing out alot of "what if questions" some like your charity work comment less then 1% of the population would do even if there were NO computers.
Just like others have stated your version of having a life is going to be different then others. Its a two sided argument.
To say someone has no life because they are doing something they enjoy is crazy.
Example 1: Someone who plays silkroad has no life, but someone who goes out partying has a life.
Example 2: Someone who goes out partying has no life, but someone who goes to college has a life.
As you can see one form of no life can be another form of having a life. Its a no win argument.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:38 pm |
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i read like half the above posts*
this is what i have to say ,
i have gotten so much out of this game i have gotten friends,stress relief,more friends, and many skills u can use irl, met a great community of ppl(srf), and i did gain one awesome friend that i talk to almost everynight. I do belive it is true u get only what u put into it. i remember times i have just stood in dw and chatted for hours with my union!!! so i belive u get alot out of this game.
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