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lol, these forums are so fked up nowadays...jeez..
Anyways, just dont reply to em , let the new skills come, and watch the hybrid bows pwn.

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so non lvl 80s want to teach me how to pvp. that's just a laugh. but np, come to my server and pvp me. btw: one of them claimed new bow skills got 35% knockback chance and also 2, 3, 4 and even 6 arrow combo have also knockback ability and is lvl 3x himself and another one is just lvl 70 and claims serious players pimp their gears till the best already at 7th degree, which is nothing else than a waste of money, elements and time. btw: i don't think the guilds Kazlac, Dignity, PIMP, BH are full of noobs. just go around and ask for the strongest guild on troy. if u dont have chars on troy, perhaps u got a friend on troy who is archer. tell him to pvp me and u just watch. it's that easy. until then: stfu noobs.


you're obviously a gay who's broke, i have an archer myself, and i pwn every build with the same lvl as me and that was with a lvl 32 SOS+5 bow, i have a lvl 32 SOM+5 bow now, so i challenge everyone of 32-37 tot PVP me.

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Vanom, everybody that I know that has a little bit of money buys pimped out gears or pimps them itself. I started pimping from 7th degree and it only made me money instead of wasted my money. I am now level 71 so you will prob be saying I cant talk cause I am not 80. But i do an average of 3.5k damage on a level 80 in protector. That is non critting and non zerking. All I have is 3 SoS items and a 68+5 bow.

Besides that, I would stick with the pure str bow. Considering most pvp fights are group fights these days, I love my HP. A level 80 glavier needs atleast 3 blows to kill me if he doesnt crit. Wich gives me the time to PW and run to my guildies or friends to kill him ^^.
Besides that I dont know for sure how strong a hybrid bower is, but if you do an average 1k more damage in pvp, you still need the crits to win. I am not in favor of sacrificing the little tank ability that I have for some more damage each arrow and still needing crits to win.

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so non lvl 80s want to teach me how to pvp. that's just a laugh. but np, come to my server and pvp me. btw: one of them claimed new bow skills got 35% knockback chance and also 2, 3, 4 and even 6 arrow combo have also knockback ability and is lvl 3x himself and another one is just lvl 70 and claims serious players pimp their gears till the best already at 7th degree, which is nothing else than a waste of money, elements and time. btw: i don't think the guilds Kazlac, Dignity, PIMP, BH are full of noobs. just go around and ask for the strongest guild on troy. if u dont have chars on troy, perhaps u got a friend on troy who is archer. tell him to pvp me and u just watch. it's that easy. until then: stfu noobs.


I thought it had a chance of 35% KB and already edited it. And you're claiming that every body that is not lvl 80 are just noobs ?
Looks like you're the one who is a noob.
Also, you're saying that 7th degree stuff pimped up is a waste of money ?
ever heard of reselling ?

Go play with ur pure str glavie account looks like you have no skill at all.


Yea apparently lvl 80 is the magic level for not being "n00b"
And I pimped my 7th deg gear max and sold them to get some good gold. I even know that people when they farm sp at any degree get great advantages of fully pimped gear. vanom is just a waste....a non skilled waste that cant get his own archer character past 6th degree because of his said lack of skill.

He really choose the right class of just brawn and no brain. "No offence to other pure str glaivers"

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whats the point in hybrid str?

hybrid int is for the hp.

but hybrid str? lower hp for mp. pure strs have just enough hp. and still hit good and crit amazingly well.

no point in hybrid str lol.

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whats the point in hybrid str?

hybrid int is for the hp.

but hybrid str? lower hp for mp. pure strs have just enough hp. and still hit good and crit amazingly well.

no point in hybrid str lol.


Did you read what I posted in the begin ?:)

The bow is a hybrid weapon, so putting some points into INT increases your attack

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whats the point in hybrid str?

hybrid int is for the hp.

but hybrid str? lower hp for mp. pure strs have just enough hp. and still hit good and crit amazingly well.

no point in hybrid str lol.

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especially when it comes to bow.

bow dmg = crit
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Yea apparently lvl 80 is the magic level for not being "n00b"
And I pimped my 7th deg gear max and sold them to get some good gold. I even know that people when they farm sp at any degree get great advantages of fully pimped gear. vanom is just a waste....a non skilled waste that cant get his own archer character past 6th degree because of his said lack of skill.

He really choose the right class of just brawn and no brain. "No offence to other pure str glaivers"

why dont u come to troy and pvp me? it's that easy. or just call a lvl 80 archer on troy to pvp me. it's that easy. if u can't, stfu. it's that easy. btw: why did so many famous players of famous guild on troy change from bow to glaive? tell me? why do we hardly find any lvl 80 archers on troy, though archers lvl faster? tell me. btw: i doubt so many good players can't play an archer. if you can't, stfu. best thing is really like i said: pvp me and show me how u'll pwn me, period.

ps: i also have another question for u guys. i know, here's a lot of lvl 80 players here reading. why did not a single lvl 80 player say, that he can kill with his archer other lvl 80s and that he makes so much dam with it? but only u freakin' low lvls are teaching me about advantages in pvp? tell me, im really curious.

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vanom wrote:
why dont u come to troy and pvp me? it's that easy. or just call a lvl 80 archer on troy to pvp me. it's that easy. if u can't, stfu. it's that easy. btw: why did so many famous players of famous guild on troy change from bow to glaive? tell me? why do we hardly find any lvl 80 archers on troy, though archers lvl faster? tell me. if you can't, stfu. best thing is really like i said: pvp me and show me how u'll pwn me, period.


Maybe they switched from bow to glaive because it's easier to pvp with glaive than it is with bow, or maybe it just wasn't their playing style...only assumptions...and like others have said: some can use a build well, others can't.

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vanom wrote:
why dont u come to troy and pvp me? it's that easy. or just call a lvl 80 archer on troy to pvp me. it's that easy. if u can't, stfu. it's that easy. btw: why did so many famous players of famous guild on troy change from bow to glaive? tell me? why do we hardly find any lvl 80 archers on troy, though archers lvl faster? tell me. btw: i doubt so many good players can't play an archer. if you can't, stfu. best thing is really like i said: pvp me and show me how u'll pwn me, period.

ps: i also have another question for u guys. i know, here's a lot of lvl 80 players here reading. why did not a single lvl 80 player say, that he can kill with his archer other lvl 80s and that he makes so much dam with it? but only u freakin' low lvls are teaching me about advantages in pvp? tell me, im really curious.


Wow you really must be brainless if you think that I can switch servers with my character, ya cant do that buddy, where have you been?
People switch form bow to Glaive because glaive is easy as hell to play.
They either cant handle being an archer or just level fast with bow and had already predetermined they want to go Glaive.

And dude I already said at lvl 80 fighting is kind of pointless because it mostly ends up in pot wars, only things that can change the outcome of a 1 vs 1 battle is how strong the gear is and if a Sosun weapon is included.

And there you go again with the level 80 shit, you need to keep ur a$$ quiet cuz im sure there are lvl 40s that have much more skill than u can imagine and a wider point of view of SRO than your tiny mind can phantom. So stop dissin anyone under 80.
What a clown!!

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i keep lmao at the ppl that have been saying pure str archers will be better than hybrid at 90 cap, lol well see.

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Vanom, I hardly ever say this. But youre ignorant.

Offcourse glaviers kill on the 80 cap. All builds suffer from the lack of updated skills, however glaviers profit the most of this. The attacks of bladers and bowers are not the strongest around, with this lack of skills they suffer.

On my level, glaviers are a good match, but they are less a problem then bladers. Bowers can kill, just know how to play, I will soon enough be able to play against lvl 80 glaviers and do some serious damage. I am not cocky enough to tell you that I will kill them easy. However, I wont be a sitting duck.

And besides that, for all you who say bowers are weak cause they pw away during a fight. Atleast know how bowers play before you accuse us ^^

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And besides that, for all you who say bowers are weak cause they pw away during a fight. Atleast know how bowers play before you accuse us ^^


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I think its gonna be awsome at the lvl 90 cap when everybody starts saying like, WTF, H4X, that guy is an archer an he pwns wtf!. lol, cant wait :P

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so non lvl 80s want to teach me how to pvp. that's just a laugh. but np, come to my server and pvp me. btw: one of them claimed new bow skills got 35% knockback chance and also 2, 3, 4 and even 6 arrow combo have also knockback ability and is lvl 3x himself and another one is just lvl 70 and claims serious players pimp their gears till the best already at 7th degree, which is nothing else than a waste of money, elements and time. btw: i don't think the guilds Kazlac, Dignity, PIMP, BH are full of noobs. just go around and ask for the strongest guild on troy. if u dont have chars on troy, perhaps u got a friend on troy who is archer. tell him to pvp me and u just watch. it's that easy. until then: stfu noobs.


Come to Xian, Fight yoxyo with his sosun +7 (think it might be +9 now) high crit bow (he is lvl 80) He will rape you lol.

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whats the point in hybrid str?

hybrid int is for the hp.

but hybrid str? lower hp for mp. pure strs have just enough hp. and still hit good and crit amazingly well.

no point in hybrid str lol.

+1

especially when it comes to bow.

bow dmg = crit
int crit < str crit
--> bow = str

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U have your point, but i have my point too.

crit : not ALL of your hits are crit
int normal hit > str normal hit
--> bow != str

Have u read all the discussion about str bow vs hybrid bow? hybrid crit >= str crit
If u talk about damage hybrid>str
If u talk about defense str>hybrid

So it's up to u to choose.

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why did so many famous players of famous guild on troy change from bow to glaive? tell me?

Because glaiver is the easiest build and simple pvp style but strong : go pure and spamming soul spear + ghost spear... wait for crit until the enemy dies. Other class involve more strategy ghost walk, firewall, castle shield...
Ppl who wants to be strongest player in server will not choose bow. Because bow is not for 1vs1

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Come to Xian, Fight yoxyo with his sosun +7 (think it might be +9 now) high crit bow (he is lvl 80) He will rape you lol.

we're talking about build, not a kick ass gear... Fight Cool2Fool_vn he will show u what is Crit.

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glaive vs bow lvl 80 with same gear all depends on who crits more during the 1v1.

whats glaive got over bow by then? the extra hp? thats covered by the bows AR increase.

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glaive vs bow lvl 80 with same gear all depends on who crits more during the 1v1.

whats glaive got over bow by then? the extra hp? thats covered by the bows AR increase.

It's not just that.
- glaiver's skills are stronger because of the phys boost and the multiplier
- a glaive +3 has a phys dmg as strong as a bow+6, same with reinforce
- buy time skills

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I still don't get whole bow sucks thing. Its not like in job wars or future castle sieges we're all going to stand around and 1v1 each other. I rather hear about the strongest builds that work well together in group fights than the strongest build in 1v1. Bow has its place, just like all other weapon and force classes.

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I still don't get whole bow sucks thing. Its not like in job wars or future castle sieges we're all going to stand around and 1v1 each other. I rather hear about the strongest builds that work well together in group fights than the strongest build in 1v1. Bow has its place, just like all other weapon and force classes.


You speak the truth actually, but its just that most ppl just test their strength 1v1 instead of in groups.

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I love to pvp in groups =|

A few days ago i got wanted while jobbing with a few level 80's. We were fighting a few level 75+ hunters. I couldnt kill them alone, but I did decent enough damage to help the thiefs that where in my party. I got enough kills ^^.

I would say perfect support build ^^.

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Correct me if i'm wrong but we get a knockback AND stun. I think the new stun is on the new Devil arrow. It also has a % much the same of the glaive user.

Vanom your a newb i'd rape you. I'm a lvl 80 bowman. There's only 4 people on my entire server that can kill me, without even equiping a shield. I've dueled everybody worth dueling. One has a c17 sosun +7 spear, the other has a sosun +8 sword and a sosun shield +8, the other has ... you get my point. Unless your packing that i'd win. At least not lose if nothing else.

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Correct me if i'm wrong but we get a knockback AND stun. I think the new stun is on the new Devil arrow. It also has a % much the same of the glaive user.

Vanom your a newb i'd rape you. I'm a lvl 80 bowman. There's only 4 people on my entire server that can kill me, without even equiping a shield. I've dueled everybody worth dueling. One has a c17 sosun +7 spear, the other has a sosun +8 sword and a sosun shield +8, the other has ... you get my point. Unless your packing that i'd win. At least not lose if nothing else.

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:D i was waiting for LS to say somethin haha :twisted:

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all i see is, u guys call me noob but u don't have a SINGLE real comment, which proves me wrong. not a single one. if you are really that skilled, just tell me a single reason. that'd be enough. but u guys obviouly can't. i asked for productive comments already in my former post. but nobody managed to tell me logically, why pure str archers do better. so who doesn't know, what he's talking about? all you can say is im noob, im ignorant, but nobody can give me a proper counter argument. you guys do so well. now im really conviced, u know nothing about pvping with even gears. if you still want to ignore my opinion, just have a look at the damage the bow and glavie skills do. u'll find them, if u move ur mouse arrow on the skills and compare. well, if you are not ignorant enough, u will see the truth. and b4 you little **** post anything, it should be logically correct and possible to prove, period.

btw: i pvped a lvl 80 archer with +7 bow, crit 10, attack rating 50% and good gears. i got only +5 glaive and good gears. why did i win if archers do that well? don't say that all guys who loses against a glaive are noobs and don't know how to pvp.

ps: sunaj, if u can read, i told u to call a friend, who is on my server to pvp me or if u have a character on my server.[/b]

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I still don't get whole bow sucks thing. Its not like in job wars or future castle sieges we're all going to stand around and 1v1 each other. I rather hear about the strongest builds that work well together in group fights than the strongest build in 1v1. Bow has its place, just like all other weapon and force classes.


gears wins it all, dun argue bout the difference
anyway when the lvl 90 cap comes, any pure builds are equally good
as long as pure str sticks with a weap and force skill
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90% of the hybrid bows sux. What makes a bow char good is skill in using it and a good weapon.


What do you call "skill in using it"?
Till this day I don't understand how people can be skillful at this game.

someone explain :oops:

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I still don't get whole bow sucks thing. Its not like in job wars or future castle sieges we're all going to stand around and 1v1 each other. I rather hear about the strongest builds that work well together in group fights than the strongest build in 1v1. Bow has its place, just like all other weapon and force classes.


gears wins it all, dun argue bout the difference
anyway when the lvl 90 cap comes, any pure builds are equally good
as long as pure str sticks with a weap and force skill
and pure int sticks with weap and force skill or simply just 2 force skill
Gear does not win it all depending on the difference in gear, player build, and skill of the player. A pure str glaive with decent gear has a chance of taking down a pure int sword or spear with great gear. It could go either way depending on knockback, stun, kd, etc. Go ahead and 1v1 at the level 90 cap. 90% of the fights are pot fights.

With the new skills bow will be on par with the other weapons. Right now bow is at a disadvantage. Its pretty hard to win a fight even if you do use Ghost Walk, a skill thats not even part of the pacheon tree.

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90% of the hybrid bows sux. What makes a bow char good is skill in using it and a good weapon.


What do you call "skill in using it"?
Till this day I don't understand how people can be skillful at this game.

someone explain :oops:


Skills a bower can use: phantom walk, fire wall. If a bower uses this on the right time instead of just standing there and tanking, he prob knows a bit about playing his bow build.

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hmm...how many times i have to say it... HYBRID STR SUCK!!!
i make highest dmg with my PURE STR BLADER than that with my old HYBRID STR BLADER...rofl....only hybrid int is good if you make hybrid....and even hybird int isnt much strong if you make 2:1 lol....u'll never kill any 80 pure str....well...thats what i see pvping vs hybrid int 2:1 -.- they never kill me xDD


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hmm...how many times i have to say it... HYBRID STR SUCK!!!
i make highest dmg with my PURE STR BLADER than that with my old HYBRID STR BLADER...rofl....only hybrid int is good if you make hybrid....and even hybird int isnt much strong if you make 2:1 lol....u'll never kill any 80 pure str....well...thats what i see pvping vs hybrid int 2:1 -.- they never kill me xDD


It doesn't suck, and hybrid str blader and hybrid str bow are different.
I once saw LiquidSmooth pvping, he killed every pure str glavier arround with his crits, it was insane. And he is hybrid str

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