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Should Assissted Sucide Be: Legal or Illegal
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Well with the recent release of Dr Kovperikan (spelling?) also known as Dr Death it has brought back the long arguement involing assissted sucide since that is what he did and went to jail for.

just wondering if u are for assissted suicide or against it

it is currently illegal in Michigan right now....i know of at least one state that has it legal but not sure how many other ones do


I think i am for it :? ....i mean u have a older person like say 60/70ish with cancer and all these other dieses and stuff and there going to die within the next 6 months....there constantly in pain and suffering....if they want to end the pain and suffereing now they should be allowed to by assissted sucide....normal sucide is wrong......but doing it medically i dont really see the problem. its up to them. if they dont want to suffer and be in pain let them end it.....i believe that medically assissed sucide is better than then suffering and in pain for those last months...let them die peacefully with the assissed sucide....

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I think it should be legal.

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I agree. If it's a definitely a terminal illness and the person has days to live in pain and suffering and it's their will to die, we should honor that.

However, there are cases where doctors told people they will die but they're wrong. And it's not 'unethical' for doctors to terminate life since it's their sworn code to preserve life. Not to mention there's always a possibility that a new technology or medicine that could cure a person completely so something is terminal is not so terminal.

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Illegal for the morons who dont do it right serves them right to wanting just attention

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Legal. Much cleaner and safer. If people who attempt suicide decides to drive their car into someone else then others may be in danger. This way is much better for the public.


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legal.


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I think it should be legal. Although i can see how it could be abused

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Silver0 wrote:
Illegal for the morons who don't do it right serves them right to wanting just attention


Oh yes, a terminal ill cancer patient wants attention by killing himself.
If you don't know what the topic is about, could you please shut your pie hole.

Assisted suicide or euthanasia isn't something to laugh about.

It's already legal in Belgium if you're older as 18, incurable and in a perfect mental condition. Someone who has Alzheimer, who lives like a plant, can't be euthanized because they can'y decide for themselves.
The question here is, if they should legalise it for people under 18 who suffice at the conditions, stated above if the person can make rational decisions.


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I agree. If it's a definitely a terminal illness and the person has days to live in pain and suffering and it's their will to die, we should honor that.

However, there are cases where doctors told people they will die but they're wrong. And it's not 'unethical' for doctors to terminate life since it's their sworn code to preserve life. Not to mention there's always a possibility that a new technology or medicine that could cure a person completely so something is terminal is not so terminal.

yea I agree to .But only if you are really sick and is nothing somebody can do for you.

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legal, dont let them suffer, if they want to die, it's their choice

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Anh_Hung_Rom wrote:
I agree. If it's a definitely a terminal illness and the person has days to live in pain and suffering and it's their will to die, we should honor that.

However, there are cases where doctors told people they will die but they're wrong. And it's not 'unethical' for doctors to terminate life since it's their sworn code to preserve life. Not to mention there's always a possibility that a new technology or medicine that could cure a person completely so something is terminal is not so terminal.

yea I agree to .But only if you are really sick and is nothing somebody can do for you.


I agree! My humanities's teacher's grandmother is very old and is suffering from cancer. In the place that this grandma is living, it is illegal to kill yourself because it is a christian based community. Therefore, she is moving to switzerland to have an injection that will kill her.

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Sure, it's probably a mental illness to want to kill yourself. If a person wants to kill themselves screw the no harm to self and others law. More resources to go around.


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should assisted suicide be legal? well it wouldnt really be suicide, but murder. Someone else is killing you.

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Illegal.

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reK wrote:
should assisted suicide be legal? well it wouldnt really be suicide, but murder. Someone else is killing you.


What if they don't do it. What if they gave you a needle to insert yourself or gave you a rope to hang.


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[SD]draquish wrote:
Illegal.

Call me Nancy.


whattup nancy. ugly name ya got there. :-P

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Skitsefrenik wrote:
reK wrote:
should assisted suicide be legal? well it wouldnt really be suicide, but murder. Someone else is killing you.


What if they don't do it. What if they gave you a needle to insert yourself or gave you a rope to hang.


Its still suicide that way, it just means theyre lazy

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[SD]draquish wrote:
Illegal.

Call me Nancy.
Ok nancy if you can do anything only lie there on bed But you can think ..You still want be alive ? I dont.. Or have cancer And you know you die anyway.. ..But on the end you have horrible pain..still want be alive?

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It should be legal for anyone 18+ 21+ just with few conditions so that not every 1day suicider could suicide.

Among srf ppl I might be the only who does have suicidel notice on the medical record and still not "cured".(for real I'm not joking)
After 2years of my last attempt I'm still getting psychiatric help what still havent changed my feelings about certain things and still depressed. For a year I've been having high blood pressure what causes almost daily headaches and losing weight due to not eating wel. Also not able to exercise because when I start I begin to faint (ppl with low blood pressure know the feeling). There are numerous others things but this should you give an idea that some ppl just dont feel like living, but are too weak to do it by them self(being too weak has to do with the pressure you get from ppl who care and are close to you).
Just wanted to say this, I'm not looking for any pity nor care nor attention I get that more than enough already.

btw I'm 2months away from being 22

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dE4 wrote:
It should be legal for anyone 18+ 21+ just with few conditions so that not every 1day suicider could suicide.

Among srf ppl I might be the only who does have suicidel notice on the medical record and still not "cured".(for real I'm not joking)
After 2years of my last attempt I'm still getting psychiatric help what still havent changed my feelings about certain things and still depressed. For a year I've been having high blood pressure what causes almost daily headaches and losing weight due to not eating wel. Also not able to exercise because when I start I begin to faint (ppl with low blood pressure know the feeling). There are numerous others things but this should you give an idea that some ppl just dont feel like living, but are too weak to do it by them self(being too weak has to do with the pressure you get from ppl who care and are close to you).
Just wanted to say this, I'm not looking for any pity nor care nor attention I get that more than enough already.

btw I'm 2months away from being 22

your not the only one!!!!!

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dE4 wrote:
It should be legal for anyone 18+ 21+ just with few conditions so that not every 1day suicider could suicide.

Among srf ppl I might be the only who does have suicidel notice on the medical record and still not "cured".(for real I'm not joking)
After 2years of my last attempt I'm still getting psychiatric help what still havent changed my feelings about certain things and still depressed. For a year I've been having high blood pressure what causes almost daily headaches and losing weight due to not eating wel. Also not able to exercise because when I start I begin to faint (ppl with low blood pressure know the feeling). There are numerous others things but this should you give an idea that some ppl just dont feel like living, but are too weak to do it by them self(being too weak has to do with the pressure you get from ppl who care and are close to you).
Just wanted to say this, I'm not looking for any pity nor care nor attention I get that more than enough already.

btw I'm 2months away from being 22

your not the only one!!!!!


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Lots of people did, do and will feel that way (count me in).


I think legal. Pain and suffering before a certain death are totally unnecessary.


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Legal ..

Rather see a relative of mine go in their sleep than croak after sufferign for months if not years...

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Legal.

My grandmother had Lung Cancer, and everyday, she'd suffer horribly, and ask to die, and it just killed my mom every second to know that she couldn't do anything about it. :(

Although there are some moral issues involved in killing yourself... I would say, if you can't be helped, and you honestly would prefer death over the condition that you're living in right now, you should have the option of medically killing yourself, with no pain involved.

As Shadow pointed out, it's better than having the chance to hurt someone else in the process as well.


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tricky topic my mom had breast cancer and the doctors game her 6 months to live. However she beat it and for the next 3 years was doing amazing. However doctors being the idiots later discovered that she had bone cancer. By the time they realized this why mom had already begun losing weight.

Chemotherapy was risky but she went for it anyway. It made her weaker and it didn't work. Next they tried radiation treatment. This made her even weaker and still didn't work. She was late rmoved to home and placed on hospice. I (16-17 during the time) assited her useing the komode when they put in a feeding tube i helped feed her. However still during all this through all the drugs and painkillers she was still very much alive and strong willed. We played chess and listened to music and i tried to make her laugh as much as i could. It was painful watching her die but i wouldn't trade that time with her for anything in the world.

Assited dieing is a natural thing animals kill there weak but people deserve a little better don't you think. Everyone story is different and the people choosing to die would have a choice. But what if they're in the position where they can't make that choice. I only realized months later how lucky i was to have been there with her through it all and have her been there through it all too. The choice of death cannot be left up to doctors and cannot be based on medical information, its to ify. For now its best to let them try and fight off "terminal" illnesses and only when they can't possibly fight anymore should we look at something like assited suicde and even then only the victum should have say in any of it.

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man this topic is starting to give me the creeps a bit.

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i have seen people pass away, but never in a bad way through disease or
something like that. the only person i knew that had no real will for living
anymore was my great grandmother. in her mid 90's she got hit by a van,
got back on her feet, became blind and deaf.. and all she could do was sit
on her chair in her appartment doing nothing.. in the end we even stopped
telling her when family members passed away because she would only get
mad and ask herself why it wasnt her turn yet. i wish she could have had
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My greatgrandma and greatgrandpa both suffered for a really long time......they said that they would rather die then suffer like they were and there was nothing that could have been done. the drugs they were on werent helping the pain and suffering

again i think it should be legal

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tricky topic my mom had breast cancer and the doctors game her 6 months to live. However she beat it and for the next 3 years was doing amazing. However doctors being the idiots later discovered that she had bone cancer. By the time they realized this why mom had already begun losing weight.

Chemotherapy was risky but she went for it anyway. It made her weaker and it didn't work. Next they tried radiation treatment. This made her even weaker and still didn't work. She was late rmoved to home and placed on hospice. I (16-17 during the time) assited her useing the komode when they put in a feeding tube i helped feed her. However still during all this through all the drugs and painkillers she was still very much alive and strong willed. We played chess and listened to music and i tried to make her laugh as much as i could. It was painful watching her die but i wouldn't trade that time with her for anything in the world.

Assited dieing is a natural thing animals kill there weak but people deserve a little better don't you think. Everyone story is different and the people choosing to die would have a choice. But what if they're in the position where they can't make that choice. I only realized months later how lucky i was to have been there with her through it all and have her been there through it all too. The choice of death cannot be left up to doctors and cannot be based on medical information, its to ify. For now its best to let them try and fight off "terminal" illnesses and only when they can't possibly fight anymore should we look at something like assited suicde and even then only the victum should have say in any of it.


There, there, fellow Giraffe. :cry: I know how it feels. With my Grandma, I keep reminiscing about all the things that we used to do, and wondering why I didn't spend more time with her when I could've, before she died. I used to always complain when she wanted to take me outside for a walk or something, when it was all hot outside, and now, looking back, I'd do anything to be able to take that walk with her now, even if it was across the desert.


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My greatgrandma and greatgrandpa both suffered for a really long time......they said that they would rather die then suffer like they were and there was nothing that could have been done. the drugs they were on werent helping the pain and suffering

again i think it should be legal



These days they'd pump your body with enough morphine in order to feel no pain.
You won't cure, you won't feel "happy", but at least the pain will be gone.
It's a useless substitute in my opinion.
You're alive by medical terms, but your life isn't something to brag about. The step between death and that is quite small.
I'd rather die if I have the choice between a life of a plant or death.


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