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 Post subject: Re: euro vs chinese
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:46 am 
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hmmm

im pretty sure one day, it'll be euro characters vs chinese characters (race wars)

and if Warrior is tankier then Bladers... and Wizard does more damage then a full int nuker... and also with buffs and healing from clerics, bards etc

EURO char will own CHINESE char?!!!! Q__Q

can anyone comment on this >.<


1. your probly right

2. yes and no... depends on many factors...

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 Post subject: Re: euro vs chinese
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:13 am 
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X-Lax wrote:
Whisperer wrote:
hmmm

im pretty sure one day, it'll be euro characters vs chinese characters (race wars)

and if Warrior is tankier then Bladers... and Wizard does more damage then a full int nuker... and also with buffs and healing from clerics, bards etc

EURO char will own CHINESE char?!!!! Q__Q

can anyone comment on this >.<


1. your probly right

2. yes and no... depends on many factors...




just overall of the fight. and since euro char are created to work as a team, while chinese char are more of a solo'ing type... so i just have this thought that euro will beat chinese in team vs team fights... cause chinese have like barely any support spells lol

and from what other ppl are saying, cleric seems like uber good healers and bards are uber good buffers lol :O

while chinese have... force!! lol


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I unnistall my ksro so I cant check it myself.

1) At which level bards gets the buffs to increase mag/phys defense and mag/phys defense?

2) A chinesse char that is being buff with those skills, can cast their own mag/phy def/attack?


Im planning for my guardian academy so this can be usefull to choose places to take my students when I go to powerlevel them. First books of those buffs are stronger than last book for chinesse, so even a low lvl bard can be really helpfull as soon he get those skill :P .


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I unnistall my ksro so I cant check it myself.

1) At which level bards gets the buffs to increase mag/phys defense and mag/phys defense?

2) A chinesse char that is being buff with those skills, can cast their own mag/phy def/attack?


Im planning for my guardian academy so this can be usefull to choose places to take my students when I go to powerlevel them. First books of those buffs are stronger than last book for chinesse, so even a low lvl bard can be really helpfull as soon he get those skill :P .


but the order you get the buffs (every 1 levels) equals to be the same at the end (i think)


well... euro will have big advantage when its a team of chinese against euro... but really if they go for the clerics (and warlocks :shock:) the chinese could win with out many problems

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will we be able to res lvl 80?

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I'm pretty sure you can, once you get a Euro character up that high..

Botting dont count -.-

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Another question:


Can anyone give some kind of recomendation for gap on differents builds like:


Warrior: 2 gap

Rogue: 3 gap

Cleric: 3 gap

.....etc


Always considering using a single weapon, no subclass, but maxing all the skills for that weapon.


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I'm pretty sure you can, once you get a Euro character up that high..

Botting dont count -.-


but with the skill update, chinese chars still wont be able to res 80?

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I'm pretty sure you can, once you get a Euro character up that high..

Botting dont count -.-


but with the skill update, chinese chars still wont be able to res 80?



With new skills they will be able to ress up to 87 :wink: .


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I guess imma go force then oO

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Soooooooooooo....

We do get a separate client for Europe ehh?

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tomiotar wrote:
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Can anyone give some kind of recomendation for gap on differents builds
I would recommend a 0 gap. Its only one mastery.

anyways, cleric is totally going to own. massive party heals combined with massive party resurrections.. great.


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So a little confused hehe, even though we can download it, that doesnt mean that it will be updated anytime soon, i gues :(

also, they just have a seperate client for this, right?? The games willl be combined though, even though I think I know the answer, I am just making sure

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:29 pm 
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I think everyone will have to switch to euro client to play either chinese or euro when they update the servers.


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so basically you mean we all will have to just get a big update, where now everyone is downloading a part of that new client, to patch it??

So in the long run, its just one big client? Not two, so i think I knew this


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:09 pm 
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no, everyone will have to eventually switch to the euro client if they want to play. I dont think Joymax is going to stress their servers even more by feeding off a new landscape + models + textures +scripts (which will double the size of the world) using the standard client update.


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what are the new skills at lvl80 in euro patch?


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GaS wrote:
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Anyone know if they will add a new server?

(came back to sro recently after quiting in beta)


Wow welcome back =)

No one knows for sure if Joymax will be adding a new server when they release Euro.


i hope they will add a new server, but if they do i think it would only be crowded with euro characters


Dont worry, there will be lots of chinese bots on a new server -_-


Why chinese and not euro
(not saying botting is good but wondering)


After level 10 it becomes nearly impossible for Euro characters to solo, so they need to party up. While Chinese characters can solo Euro characters can't.



on the contrary, wizards can pve very well


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Do you have to have a char slot free to make a euro char?

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Umm, yes.

In order to make any character you need to have at least one character slot open -.-

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kukuclan wrote:
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Anyone know if they will add a new server?

(came back to sro recently after quiting in beta)


Wow welcome back =)

No one knows for sure if Joymax will be adding a new server when they release Euro.


i hope they will add a new server, but if they do i think it would only be crowded with euro characters


Dont worry, there will be lots of chinese bots on a new server -_-


Why chinese and not euro
(not saying botting is good but wondering)


After level 10 it becomes nearly impossible for Euro characters to solo, so they need to party up. While Chinese characters can solo Euro characters can't.



on the contrary, wizards can pve very well


Right some classes can, but some classes can't. Just talking in general.

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Um I'M not going to bother quoting you guys but a lot of you are saying that pot delay is 15s wich I have no idea were you got from cause in ksro it was 30s and on official site it (isro) it says 20s wich it is going to be so....

Yah hope that helps....


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GaS wrote:
kukuclan wrote:
GaS wrote:
Design wrote:
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Design wrote:
GaS wrote:
Design wrote:
Anyone know if they will add a new server?

(came back to sro recently after quiting in beta)


Wow welcome back =)

No one knows for sure if Joymax will be adding a new server when they release Euro.


i hope they will add a new server, but if they do i think it would only be crowded with euro characters


Dont worry, there will be lots of chinese bots on a new server -_-


Why chinese and not euro
(not saying botting is good but wondering)


After level 10 it becomes nearly impossible for Euro characters to solo, so they need to party up. While Chinese characters can solo Euro characters can't.



on the contrary, wizards can pve very well


Right some classes can, but some classes can't. Just talking in general.


not even....just because a wizard can kill doesn't mean they can solo....they'll get annihilated in the caves and around basically any aggro mob...taking that into account they'll only be able to grind at weaker monsters and then couple that with the exp cut you get from being a solo euro character and you'll be making basically no exp....theres a difference between being able to pull off a successful solo grind than just killing monsters without help.....

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no im pretty sure a wizard can pull it it off considering i have one in csro that is lvl 50, hehe, i do it all the time, then again it might also help that my sub is cleric.


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im not going to get into an argument about this because Euro characters are made from the ground up to be against solo play....its a waste of time with a Euro imo but i guess everyone will just have to see for themselves....

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i got a euro question, might seem little random though......is their a euro char builder out yet?

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i got a euro question, might seem little random though......is their a euro char builder out yet?


For STR / INT distributions, use bobtheveg's one since it's the same system as chinese.

For SP calculations, use this: http://nivlam.com/euro/ (skills up to 60 because we don't know if we're getting the new 80 euro skills or not).


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i got a euro question, might seem little random though......is their a euro char builder out yet?


For STR / INT distributions, use bobtheveg's one since it's the same system as chinese.

For SP calculations, use this: http://nivlam.com/euro/ (skills up to 60 because we don't know if we're getting the new 80 euro skills or not).
thanx, was talking bout an actual char builder but its OK, i can understand if no one has made one yet.
btw i really like the new format of the sp calculator :D

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Gul wrote:
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i got a euro question, might seem little random though......is their a euro char builder out yet?


For STR / INT distributions, use bobtheveg's one since it's the same system as chinese.

For SP calculations, use this: http://nivlam.com/euro/ (skills up to 60 because we don't know if we're getting the new 80 euro skills or not).






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About the new party system...

The game spawns party mobs whenever a share party is near right?

But what about then when party is jobbing? Does it apply?

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