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JailBait
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:37 am |
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(Ok in all honesty I didn't take the time to read through all the posts, bear with me if that sounds familiar)
Personally I don't mind if paying customers get to log in without standing in the queue. Quite the opposite, if they put money in the game they might as well benefit from it and get the share of entertainment they payed for, doesn't this sound obvious?
What bothers me however, is first and foremost the context in which this change was introduced. Have all bots been banned? No. Has the issue regarding AFK stallers and stall characters (which are a vicious circle, really) been adressed? No.
So basically that all feels like JM wants to get a fat wallet without doing the slightest effort. And to make the matter worse, people fall for it. Now think about this a bit, if you were maintaining a product that had major flaws yet got payed all the same twiddling your thumbs, would you honestly work your butt off to fix your product? I doubt so.
The new PT system might have made it better for the individual paying customer however it didn't improve the game as a whole (from a player's perspective, that is).
What Joymax fails to understand is that among the (legit  ) current non-paying users there are still potential customers. While companies spend humongous sums of money to get new customers, Joymax are almost throwing their best prospects away "No $$ no play kekeke".
For the same reason if current non-paying customers actually get kicked to let a PT user in, that's also bad practice. A simple "You will be disconnected in 20 seconds, please move to a safe location" warning would be a first step in the right direction.
Second, the game is still marketed as Free to Play. There is no * with a footnote that says "Well, unless the server is crowded with bots, AFK players and the like... Which corresponds to all our servers actually... But to still give us your money while we're scratching our balls, please click here".
I mean, why not limit the amount of log in time per day for non paying characters? Say 3 hours. I'm pretty sure that would ensure:
- A higher turnaround of players (hence more people get to try the game, potentially more players turning into customers)
- Limit the meaningfulness of bots
- Pretty much eliminate AFK stallers
- Since Joymax have no apparent intention to start acting like a real MMO publisher with GMs that actually do their job, it wouldn't interfere with their lack of commitment
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Bliss
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:40 am |
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my statement: Joymax DONT kick people for premium users .. so dont cry and if you dont want to Spend 200 Silks on premium DONT DO IT .. thats it
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DdK
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:38 pm |
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Stephanus wrote: DdK wrote: *** ROFL..Looks to me that YOU want to get flamed AAHHAHAHA *** Obviously you don't know the purpose of a forum. It's meant to be a place for asking questions of public interest..and "should joymax get rid of premium tickets" is a question of public interest..Take a look at the amount of votes in the poll, and no matter what YOU or others say, there are still MORE people that want it gone than those who don't Once again, don't read the thread or post in it if you " DON'T CARE"  *yawn* Did you gave any direct answer in reply to my question s? No? BB. Do NOT make any descendants. Your genom would pollute humanity -.-; /ignore on
Oh, you were asking question s now? What? If you care about bots, did you something about it?...Dam there must be hidden questions in there like "ninjas" unless you want me to actually answer rhetorical questions...
As for that single question..my post answers it directly, unless you still think a forum is a place where ranting is completely forbidden, what ever floats your boat dude...
What you want me to do?, go to mt Fuji and train under the all wisdom ninja-sama and learn the arts of ninjutsu then come back and sneak into joymax and kill the head of it and take control? Sorry, reality check here, ain't gonna happen. 
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Carnophage
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:52 pm |
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Lets just see how the connecting will be when euro comes out, if extra space opens up for the euro cities maybe the load will be divided better so every1 can login normally.
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forbannet
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:36 am |
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Well, im from Brazil, a country that 99% of ppl in this forum consider a "shitty country" "3rd shit hole" "a country that ppl shit in the ground, etc"
But every month I waste some money with silks,
Im 16 years old, I do not work and I dont even have a Credit Card, I just find a way myself to get what I need, I even sell my own gold to get my silks o_o
And premium helped me a lot lol, the alchemy thing is a bullshit, but the rest rocks, I coudnt put my sword to +7 with my own char (with premium), I transfered to another char (without premium) and I could, then...
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Bazinator
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:48 am |
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lol we shoeld just pis the image code off it doesnt stop bots so then we could just sit there holding enter until we get logged in
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nphillip
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:20 am |
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Bazinator wrote: lol we shoeld just pis the image code off it doesnt stop bots so then we could just sit there holding enter until we get logged in
i wish they would get of the image code and rise the server capacity, signing on is really pissing me off.
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sneaksie
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:32 am |
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anoying the shit outa you with failed to conect shits and then introducing premium ticket for you to buy so you can log in right away!?
the worst thing people buys it and feel good now that they can log in with ease! Thing they dont understand that they are paying more money for free game than thay would pay for p2p games.
what do you think, is it worth paying so you can play this game?
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Exodious
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:40 am |
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falchion
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:52 am |
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posting here and complaining about the pts is not going to change anything. you can argue about this but its not like jm looks and take time to atually read all this
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Israfil
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:55 am |
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Premium ticket is good, it is good way to get rid of botters, spammers and
stallers. Lvl5 char selling d8 stuff and loads of elements. That is sick!
Joymax should have a ticket just for login, 150-200 silk is too expensive.
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HertogJan
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:29 am |
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Getting DCed is a matther of youre internetconnection or computer.
I recently moved, I never got DC in my old house. In my new home I get a DC every so many hours. Its not really irritating besides when I am stalling or doing that stupid alchemying.
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BlackFox
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:51 am |
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Exodious wrote: its basically is like this now adays ITS PAY 2 PLAY! wat ever happened to free forever????smart ass koreans.... 
Is a free game you are not need to buy anything and you can play .only is little harder to get in when is crowded ...But anyway is a free game..
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sneaksie
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:38 am |
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please, its not little harder! its next to imposible. And you basicly can not play the game when you want if you dont pay!
I mean i dont want to tell people what should they do with their money, but i think this game is not worth that much. if someone thinks that its worth it, write one good reason.
btw only reason some epeople pay this amounts of money every month is imho plain addiction and obsesion!
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BlackFox
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:41 am |
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sneaksie wrote: please, its not little harder! its next to imposible. And you basicly can not play the game when you want if you dont pay!
I mean i dont want to tell people what should they do with their money, but i think this game is not worth that much. if someone thinks that its worth it, write one good reson reason.
btw only reason some epeople pay this amounts of money every month is imho plain addiction and obsesion!
You can get in is not imposible ...so if is not worth dont play, it easy dont come and complaine , go and play another game.
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sneaksie
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:50 am |
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the thing is: i want to play but i think its to much money for this kind of game! just want to see is there good resaons for playing that i dont see.
and that go play another game is geting very smelly!
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BlackFox
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:02 am |
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@ sneaksie
I can agree is little to much but anyway is good/fun game and you get some nice good friends .
try other game and see if they are better 
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GaS
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:36 am |
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rumpleKillskin wrote: lol no offence dude, but sro isnt a hobby hehehehe, but do what u like, i would save money, and go places, not play a mmorpg. Hobby - an activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation. Yup SRO can be a hobby. DdK wrote: Even if you are talking about nphillip...what makes you think you have the right to talk about him? your join date is STILL 29th June LOL what "rights" are you talking about. DdK wrote: .....that is trying to say? If you want to say it's alrite calling someone a flamer just because they want to then.....ok.... how bout tell me how is that an opinion?  He means to take your own words and stfu. But I'm just interpreting. tedtwilliger wrote: I cant believe this thread is still going. Me either. ranger4life wrote: wow you have absolutely no life, i quit this game after the wolf patch came, i knew bots were coming in. the max i playe ach day was 2 hrs, i got to lv 50 then quit, now i play hero online, servers r NEVER full there
How the hell does buying 10000 silk make you have "no life". And I played WoW and my server was never full either, you don't see me telling people to play WoW. Ha... its still nice to see you come on the SRO forum. Do you still miss SRO?
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:52 am |
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sneaksie wrote: please, its not little harder! its next to imposible. And you basicly can not play the game when you want if you dont pay!
I mean i dont want to tell people what should they do with their money, but i think this game is not worth that much. if someone thinks that its worth it, write one good reason.
btw only reason some epeople pay this amounts of money every month is imho plain addiction and obsesion!
I logged in 3 times today, count them, THREE!
The server was crowded at all 3 times.
1st time i logged in 1st attempt, 2nd time took me 3 or 4 and the 3rd time took me 1 * changing chars*
Also my mate logged into the same server on his 1st try whilst i was playing.
Note: At all of these times the server was crowded.
Now if THATS impossible to log into, then dude u just dont try hard enough.
Note #2: I dont have a pt >.<
It isnt that hard to log in. Sure servers like xian and greece may be harder, but still it aint impossible.
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DrunkiMunki
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:57 am |
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if i play on my char with premium, i rarely get a dc. If i play on my char without premium, i get a dc every 2-3 hours.
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nphillip
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:02 pm |
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Leipo wrote: if i play on my char with premium, i rarely get a dc. If i play on my char without premium, i get a dc every 2-3 hours.
Wazzupwithdat?
what do u mean 'Wazzupwithdat' abit obvious aint it? ive been saying all this time, joymax is kicking non-premiums for premium users.
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GaS
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:47 pm |
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I am no longer a premium user, besides my isp failing on me, I have not been disconnected (yet/waits).
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DdK
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:08 pm |
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GaS wrote: DdK wrote: Even if you are talking about nphillip...what makes you think you have the right to talk about him? your join date is STILL 29th June LOL what "rights" are you talking about. XemnasXD wrote: you can't talk about ALL you've seen and how he needs to contribute to the community when your join date was June 29th and you've made like 3X post Dont be a smart ass and try read ALL the posts GaS wrote: DdK wrote: .....that is trying to say? If you want to say it's alrite calling someone a flamer just because they want to then.....ok.... how bout tell me how is that an opinion?  He means to take your own words and stfu. But I'm just interpreting.
My owns words...hmmm....do you even understand my post? LOL
I'm not asking what he means ROFL...I'm asking what he's trying to say, is he trying to say that it's alrite to randomly call someone a flamer?...Obviously he wants me to take my own words...but too bad my words were "don't post it if you don't want to hear other people's opinion after it, it's a forum after all..."
This time i'll direct the question to you since your a smartass, how is calling someone a flamer and can't contribute anything to the community an opinion?
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