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HertogJan
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:21 am |
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No, when you level up to 20 again. You will be able to add them again.
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glavie
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:51 pm |
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I think he has already leveled back to 20. All I can say is you must have changed an item you had equipped. Maybe you had taken the bow off that had str 2 on it? Swapped out pants something like that. You cannot loose points by deleveling.
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flexo
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:12 pm |
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caseyd4 wrote: You Could Get the Hp Bonus in Heuskal I think it is I have it at the Moment in My HYB Str But Il be Dropping it back to 0 AS Its a Numbered Bonus ontop of your HP, Where as Your Cold HP thingy is a percentage bonus even if its only @5% it will have greater effect at higher levels. wich skill are you talking about here?? is there a new skill comming in the cold tree that increases your hp with a certain %???? caseyd4 wrote: Quote: If you leave lighting at 50, you will be very very slow if you compare it with the people that maxed it. And honestly caseyd4, I cant see how you are having fun without lighting maxed if youre a hunter. You never job war? And what if a thief comes along that is stronger you never run? Or never need to catch up with a thief that is faster then you?
Well Firstly let me say my job is a hunter I dont need to stay alive to be succesful, just allow my trader to get away. Secondly with my Reach advantage a thief should never get near me, I know (Usually) Who and what im fighting. Thirdly Its a Bloody Game im not actually going to die if my char does and with all the dying I do Farming is easy no need to De-Level.. (Thats not dying to people my own or +4 my level tho Cool )
i agree mostly with ya. I've just learned this myself, lightning skill increase after like 54 isn't that great. I was gonna max light myself too but i changed my mind and i'm leaving it on 60.
Yeah you'll be slower then the other ppl that did max it. But you got your range and soon stun and kb too. So you should be able to catch ppl. Only running away is gonna be less effective. But if you mind getting killed then you shouldn't job
Besides if you look at the other tree's like fire and cold and see what they give you extra from 60-80 then it's worth way more putting your sp in those tree's. It will make you slower but stronger and personally i like pwning more then running ^^
Although i loved outrunning those lvl 70+ when i was like 56 with light maxed out .... yep.. good times ...good times ^^ lol
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MilesFT
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:05 pm |
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glavie wrote: I think he has already leveled back to 20. All I can say is you must have changed an item you had equipped. Maybe you had taken the bow off that had str 2 on it? Swapped out pants something like that. You cannot loose points by deleveling. Nope, I never changed any Items. HertogJan wrote: No, when you level up to 20 again. You will be able to add them again.
Once I hit level 20 again I had no new points to distribute, my stats are the same as they were before I hit level 20 other than the +1/1 you get from leveling up...
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glavie
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:54 pm |
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when you level up you do not get to redistribute the points, however they do Get added back with the level.
They are not permanently lost
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Glavie's Girl
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:23 pm |
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When you level you get an automatic 1str/1int, the other three you get to choose. So lets say you put those three points into str, if you delevel, the game realizes you have gone down a level and deactivates the stats. Now when you obtain that again those three points you put into str will become active again. Deleveling does not allow you to redistribute stat points that have already been used.
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MilesFT
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:11 pm |
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Okay, well I'm level 21 now (yeah I know, still a noob) I have been reading the new euro expansion preview page and now I ended up confusing myself and I'm sort of frustrated.
The new expansion apparently adds more skills and increases the max force levels to 90 instead of 80...
Initially I had planned to go 80pacheon/80fire/80ice/60light but if the cap is bumped up to 90 I have no idea what build to do anymore... I want cold AND fire... but if that's the case my build would be 90pacheon/90fire/90ice/30light and 30 light would suck...
So, I come to you! What do you think I should do? I am pure Str pacheon user, I want to be strong in pve and if possible decent in pvp, but pve is where I want my strong point. I can stand to be a bit less strong in pvp.
Please give me your thoughts and ideas as to what I should do in the long run with the new expansion. All input is appreciated.
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glavie
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:06 pm |
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I no it is a hard decision. IF they fix the immunity then I would say drop/lower fire, but if they don't It gets complicated. I say wait till euro comes out. We will find out if people are still immune or not.
The lvl90 cap is at least 6months away maybe more. Just plan for the 80cap for now.
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caseyd4
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:07 pm |
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Yes remember 90 cap aint coming with euro, and if you plan for 80 you will have plenty of time for curst hearts and extra farming by the time 90 is released
CURSED HEARTS QUESTS FTW !!! 
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MilesFT
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:18 pm |
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So your saying to stick with my plan of 80pach/80ice/80fire/60light for now? even though i know that when the 90 cap comes i will have to farm my butt off for cursed hearts to change everything?
EDIT: Hmmm, I'm trying to think of a build for the 90 cap, but its really hard to decide... I know its not coming right away, but I at least want to go down the right paths on my skill trees in preparation for it in the future.
Maybe something like 90pach/90fire/70ice/50light or 90pach/80fire/80ice/50light or maybe 90pach/90fire/60ice/60light?
Can you help with suggestions? maybe which one of those ideas would be the most benefit to me?
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MilesFT
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:33 pm |
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MilesFT wrote: So your saying to stick with my plan of 80pach/80ice/80fire/60light for now? even though i know that when the 90 cap comes i will have to farm my butt off for cursed hearts to change everything?
EDIT: Hmmm, I'm trying to think of a build for the 90 cap, but its really hard to decide... I know its not coming right away, but I at least want to go down the right paths on my skill trees in preparation for it in the future.
Maybe something like 90pach/90fire/70ice/50light or 90pach/80fire/80ice/50light or maybe 90pach/90fire/60ice/60light?
Can you help with suggestions? maybe which one of those ideas would be the most benefit to me?
Shameless bump, any suggestions? Either way even if I get them all to level 30 I still wouldn't have "messed up" because they are all going at least that high, right?
So you don't have to read back, I am a level 21 Pure STR bow user. Right now I have a 8 gap, thinking of making it into a 4 gap because leveling is starting to get kinda slow and I have about 2,000 SP right now. Come on, I need suggestions... I'm to stupid to do this myself. 
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glavie
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:14 pm |
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8 gap is almost a 9 gap. You only 9 gap when:
high spawn rate/fast kill
awesome weapon
You would delevel back when you level to get the most sp per kill.
Since you aren't farming you shouldnt have a 8 gap.
If you were farming you should have a 9 gap.
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MilesFT
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:16 pm |
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glavie wrote: 8 gap is almost a 9 gap. You only 9 gap when:
high spawn rate/fast kill awesome weapon You would delevel back when you level to get the most sp per kill.
Since you aren't farming you shouldnt have a 8 gap. If you were farming you should have a 9 gap.
Yeah I know, but the reason I have that gap is because I don't know which skill trees to get points into... hence why I asked a few posts up..
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glavie
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:20 pm |
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Just be patient. A week after the update, we will know about ice immunity, we will know about mana shield, until then, we just don't have enough information.
I could tell you what I think is best right now, but once the update comes out, it will be outdated.
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MilesFT
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:17 pm |
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glavie wrote: Just be patient. A week after the update, we will know about ice immunity, we will know about mana shield, until then, we just don't have enough information.
I could tell you what I think is best right now, but once the update comes out, it will be outdated.
Suggestions welcome... I need to rid myself of this 8gap. 
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MilesFT
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:05 pm |
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MilesFT wrote: glavie wrote: Just be patient. A week after the update, we will know about ice immunity, we will know about mana shield, until then, we just don't have enough information.
I could tell you what I think is best right now, but once the update comes out, it will be outdated. Suggestions welcome... I need to rid myself of this 8gap. 
This 8gap is killing me... I need to get rid of it, do we have ANY information on the 90cap new skills or the update coming tomorrow? I just want ANYTHING to go with so I have more of an idea of what to do. I have been told in game to drop fire and use cold, to drop cold and use fire, and a few other stupid ones I wont mention. If someone was in my position what would they do? Would they build like an 80cap and then just deal with the 90 when it comes? If thats the case what skills do I want then? I know I need pacheon 90, but their seems to be controversy between Cold and Fire and Lightning... Some people say to max lightning and others say leave it at 50 or 60, the same with cold... I figure I WILL max fire... If the update fixes the immunity I will still need to get fire to at least 60 even with the 90cap anyway, because if I planned to use cold as my main I would use 90cold/60fire instead of 90fire/60cold... I just want some ideas, I'm not asking for the miracle build right this second or even ever. Regardless I will be getting AT LEAST 30 masteries in each tree right? So I could use a 0gap to level 30 if I wanted and would still be fine for the 90cap, yes? Input please, anything...
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HertogJan
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:49 pm |
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There is no 90 cap coming 2morrow, there is a 80 cap coming. There is loads of information of the new skills we get.
You can go with a 4-5 gap till level 50 if you want to level up 4 trees. After that I just went with a 3 gap till 70 and only take my bow and fire skills with me. From 70 I am just 0 gapping till 80 and then farm.
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MilesFT
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:35 am |
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I went ahead and leveled them all to level 18, and just about to hit level 22, so I will have a 4gap, i will continue to level them all until level 30 where by then I should have enough information to know what to do from there on. Thanks for all the help.
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