The lesser of 2 wrongs

killerkong · **Posted:** Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:44 pm

Lith wrote:

StuckUP wrote:

JM bans pk2 editors but let's the botters walk free to me pk2 editing is nothing compared to botting y does JM do these injustices I mean I think I just might quit sro JM is just so unfair! well 1 year of hand grinding all for nothing I got to lvl 64 in that year but it's very unfair and upsetting that the botters become higher then me in a few weeks while I slaved for a year JM should go to hell they should enforce their own rules don't they know that they can get sued for that(I hope they do I'm just about sick and tired of this)

(and no u cannot have my account if I quit)

You joined at 19 June and Today is July 20. It says you're lvl 56 in your signature and you got to "64" Explain to me how you got to lvl 64 in one month? Hell I grinded with a no gap with my nuker and it took me a week to get to lvl 53-54. I know no one can stand grinding 9 hours per day.

HEHE dont go emo on us

Itonami · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3182 **Location:**

Botting is worse, because it's actually cheating. Botting is obvious.

PK2 editing is just keeping yourself entertained, and it can be your own little secret that nobody has to know.

StaticX · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 814

Quote:

and it can be your own little secret that nobody has to know.

I'll keep you my dirty little secret, dirty little secret! Don't tell anyone.

Itonami · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3182 **Location:**

StaticX wrote:

Quote:

and it can be your own little secret that nobody has to know.

I'll keep you my dirty little secret my dirty little secret!

love that song

StaticX · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 814

[NF]Itonami wrote:

StaticX wrote:

Quote:

and it can be your own little secret that nobody has to know.

I'll keep you my dirty little secret my dirty little secret!

love that song

Ya me too, but since my music went out i forgot the words...I remembered a little more lol

Shuryu · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 122

StuckUP wrote:

GO AWAY NO-LIFE BOTTERS YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED ON MY THREAD!!

wonder who has more life... a boter or a handgrinder... hm.. hard question :roll:

Shuryu · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 122

StuckUP wrote:

GO AWAY NO-LIFE BOTTERS YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED ON MY THREAD!!

wonder who has more life... a boter or a handgrinder... hm.. hard question :roll:

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

BuddahBless wrote:

Crumpets wrote:

Errr ... Joymax never has and never will ban people for pk2. Simply can't prove it.

That dude knifehappy got banned a few weeks ago for pk2 editing. O_o

So he says ..... I'd like to see the ban reason tho.

Itonami · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3182 **Location:**

Crumpets wrote:

BuddahBless wrote:

Crumpets wrote:

Errr ... Joymax never has and never will ban people for pk2. Simply can't prove it.

That dude knifehappy got banned a few weeks ago for pk2 editing. O_o

So he says ..... I'd like to see the ban reason tho.

Alright, i'm gonna go ahead and say this.. I know of ONE person who has been banned purely for pk2 editing. He got banned because he had the pk2 extractor opened while the game was open. Close the window after you replace your file if you're gonna risk it guys. =/

dem0nhunter · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 49 **Location:**

of course are bots worse than pks editors

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

[NF]Itonami wrote:

Crumpets wrote:

BuddahBless wrote:

Crumpets wrote:

Errr ... Joymax never has and never will ban people for pk2. Simply can't prove it.

That dude knifehappy got banned a few weeks ago for pk2 editing. O_o

So he says ..... I'd like to see the ban reason tho.

Alright, i'm gonna go ahead and say this.. I know of ONE person who has been banned purely for pk2 editing. He got banned because he had the pk2 extractor opened while the game was open. Close the window after you replace your file if you're gonna risk it guys. =/

I have it open right now .. and I'm stalling ...... I always pk2 while stalling or breaking alchemy down. When I'm done I restart sro and check it out

Accounts banned: 0

Itonami · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3182 **Location:**

Crumpets wrote:

[NF]Itonami wrote:

Crumpets wrote:

BuddahBless wrote:

Crumpets wrote:

Errr ... Joymax never has and never will ban people for pk2. Simply can't prove it.

That dude knifehappy got banned a few weeks ago for pk2 editing. O_o

So he says ..... I'd like to see the ban reason tho.

Alright, i'm gonna go ahead and say this.. I know of ONE person who has been banned purely for pk2 editing. He got banned because he had the pk2 extractor opened while the game was open. Close the window after you replace your file if you're gonna risk it guys. =/

I have it open right now .. and I'm stalling ...... I always pk2 while stalling or breaking alchemy down. When I'm done I restart sro and check it out

Accounts banned: 0

Just saying, that's how people do get banned although 99% of the time there's another reason for the ban. Bad language, pissed off someone who works for JM. <.<

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

I see where you're coming from but..... If I get banned from iSRO at anytime .. I'd cover it too by saying it was cause of pk2

_Shinigami_ · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 2191 **Location:**

Botting is the Worst.....................pk2 editing is not really wrong

StuckUP · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1315 **Location:**

Shuryu wrote:

StuckUP wrote:

GO AWAY NO-LIFE BOTTERS YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED ON MY THREAD!!

wonder who has more life... a boter or a handgrinder... hm.. hard question :roll:

are u saying I have no-life because I have time to grind, go shopping for on end, party, see friends, cook, cuddle with fiance( :oops:

), exercise, make all my hair appointments, manicure appointment,pedicure appointment, and more

DrunkiMunki · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 609 **Location:**

pk2 editing makes you see the difference between 1st tier 8th degree and 3rd tier. Since i am in love with jobwars/pvp, thats a crime and worse then botting.

StuckUP · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1315 **Location:**

Leipo wrote:

pk2 editing makes you see the difference between 1st tier 8th degree and 3rd tier. Since i am in love with jobwars/pvp, thats a crime and worse then botting.

um how does pk2 editing effect that I mean it doesn't change any stats on the accual armour

srfer · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 212

botting isn't wrong, because the majority of silkroad player does it.

and the fact that iSRO doesn't even try to enforce and protect sro from botting programs like isrobot and tbot shows how little they care about players botting. (while it is true goldbots get banned, but majority of player bots are untouched, true they did update isro with a patch on july19-20, 24hrs later, new bot comes out and we are back to normal)

please don't try and tell me you don't bot, i know there are many (i won't name them) reputation whores on this forum, but don't bullshit me. If you are over 6x u most likely bot.

soxdrop · **Posted:** Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:30 pm

If sby thinks bot is wrong but pk2 moding isnt then he isn't better than the bots.
you midify files which are copyrighted which is illegal, you gain advantage over other users by this act + you can get stuff for free which is sold for silk = stealing

139022 · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 858 **Location:**

shut up gaymax is not gay! they just banned thousands of bots and the servers are always populated! u call that gay!

StuckUP · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1315 **Location:**

srfer wrote:

botting isn't wrong, because the majority of silkroad player does it.

and the fact that iSRO doesn't even try to enforce and protect sro from botting programs like isrobot and tbot shows how little they care about players botting. (while it is true goldbots get banned, but majority of player bots are untouched, true they did update isro with a patch on july19-20, 24hrs later, new bot comes out and we are back to normal)

please don't try and tell me you don't bot, i know there are many (i won't name them) reputation whores on this forum, but don't bullshit me. If you are over 6x u most likely bot.

yea ur wrong I've handgrinded my char for 1 year do u know what that means or do I have to speak caveman for u? and anyway y would I pay for a game I won't play 80% of the time I'm not desperate like that

srfer · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 212

StuckUP wrote:

srfer wrote:

botting isn't wrong, because the majority of silkroad player does it.

and the fact that iSRO doesn't even try to enforce and protect sro from botting programs like isrobot and tbot shows how little they care about players botting. (while it is true goldbots get banned, but majority of player bots are untouched, true they did update isro with a patch on july19-20, 24hrs later, new bot comes out and we are back to normal)

please don't try and tell me you don't bot, i know there are many (i won't name them) reputation whores on this forum, but don't bullshit me. If you are over 6x u most likely bot.

yea ur wrong I've handgrinded my char for 1 year do u know what that means or do I have to speak caveman for u? and anyway y would I pay for a game I won't play 80% of the time I'm not desperate like that

ok looks like ill have to put this in caveman so you can understand. carefull read what i posted before, i said a majority (not all) of sro players, and most sro players above 60 bot.
you = 48.
you /= 60+.
you are not included in my post.

o yeah, congrats on level 48.

women...
........ttsk

StuckUP · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1315 **Location:**

srfer wrote:

StuckUP wrote:

srfer wrote:

botting isn't wrong, because the majority of silkroad player does it.

and the fact that iSRO doesn't even try to enforce and protect sro from botting programs like isrobot and tbot shows how little they care about players botting. (while it is true goldbots get banned, but majority of player bots are untouched, true they did update isro with a patch on july19-20, 24hrs later, new bot comes out and we are back to normal)

please don't try and tell me you don't bot, i know there are many (i won't name them) reputation whores on this forum, but don't bullshit me. If you are over 6x u most likely bot.

yea ur wrong I've handgrinded my char for 1 year do u know what that means or do I have to speak caveman for u? and anyway y would I pay for a game I won't play 80% of the time I'm not desperate like that

ok looks like ill have to put this in caveman so you can understand. carefull read what i posted before, i said a majority (not all) of sro players, and most sro players above 60 bot.
you = 48.
you /= 60+.
you are not included in my post.

o yeah, congrats on level 48.

women...
........ttsk

I'm lvl 64 so get ur mind right

men....

Sylhana · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3467 **Location:**

Did you really have to make a poll for this? o_0

pk2 editing is just as bad, but more so damaging to Joymax rather than to the customers. You're altering their product without their consent. Not to mention it is part of the tos that we all agree to adhere to <.<

Having said that, I'm risking my account to having the chat filter removed. I'm doing it on principle.

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

Sylhana wrote:

Did you really have to make a poll for this? o_0

pk2 editing is just as bad, but more so damaging to Joymax rather than to the customers. You're altering their product without their consent. Not to mention it is part of the tos that we all agree to adhere to <.<

Having said that, I'm risking my account to having the chat filter removed. I'm doing it on principle.

Give me a link to the part of the T.O.S. where it says editing a .pk2 file is illegal pl0x.

BrokenSaint · **Posted:** Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:11 am

StuckUP wrote:

srfer wrote:

StuckUP wrote:

srfer wrote:

botting isn't wrong, because the majority of silkroad player does it.

and the fact that iSRO doesn't even try to enforce and protect sro from botting programs like isrobot and tbot shows how little they care about players botting. (while it is true goldbots get banned, but majority of player bots are untouched, true they did update isro with a patch on july19-20, 24hrs later, new bot comes out and we are back to normal)

please don't try and tell me you don't bot, i know there are many (i won't name them) reputation whores on this forum, but don't bullshit me. If you are over 6x u most likely bot.

yea ur wrong I've handgrinded my char for 1 year do u know what that means or do I have to speak caveman for u? and anyway y would I pay for a game I won't play 80% of the time I'm not desperate like that

ok looks like ill have to put this in caveman so you can understand. carefull read what i posted before, i said a majority (not all) of sro players, and most sro players above 60 bot.
you = 48.
you /= 60+.
you are not included in my post.

o yeah, congrats on level 48.

women...
........ttsk

I'm lvl 64 so get ur mind right

men....

lennonn · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 140 **Location:**

Crumpets wrote:

Sylhana wrote:

Did you really have to make a poll for this? o_0

pk2 editing is just as bad, but more so damaging to Joymax rather than to the customers. You're altering their product without their consent. Not to mention it is part of the tos that we all agree to adhere to <.<

Having said that, I'm risking my account to having the chat filter removed. I'm doing it on principle.

Give me a link to the part of the T.O.S. where it says editing a .pk2 file is illegal pl0x.

Beeing a copyrighted game isnt enough for you?

I mean... The Game as it is... full property of JM =(
Sad But true... I miss my old imbue

Yours,
Len :love:

ZeFrog · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 537

BrokenSaint wrote:

StuckUP wrote:

srfer wrote:

StuckUP wrote:

srfer wrote:

botting isn't wrong, because the majority of silkroad player does it.

and the fact that iSRO doesn't even try to enforce and protect sro from botting programs like isrobot and tbot shows how little they care about players botting. (while it is true goldbots get banned, but majority of player bots are untouched, true they did update isro with a patch on july19-20, 24hrs later, new bot comes out and we are back to normal)

please don't try and tell me you don't bot, i know there are many (i won't name them) reputation whores on this forum, but don't bullshit me. If you are over 6x u most likely bot.

yea ur wrong I've handgrinded my char for 1 year do u know what that means or do I have to speak caveman for u? and anyway y would I pay for a game I won't play 80% of the time I'm not desperate like that

ok looks like ill have to put this in caveman so you can understand. carefull read what i posted before, i said a majority (not all) of sro players, and most sro players above 60 bot.
you = 48.
you /= 60+.
you are not included in my post.

o yeah, congrats on level 48.

women...
........ttsk

I'm lvl 64 so get ur mind right

men....

Actually its "Evil" not "problems" And it comes from the old saying, "Love of money is the root of all evil"

But then again, "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right; greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms, greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge — has marked the upward surge of mankind.."

Sylhana · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3467 **Location:**

Crumpets wrote:

Sylhana wrote:

Did you really have to make a poll for this? o_0

pk2 editing is just as bad, but more so damaging to Joymax rather than to the customers. You're altering their product without their consent. Not to mention it is part of the tos that we all agree to adhere to <.<

Having said that, I'm risking my account to having the chat filter removed. I'm doing it on principle.

Give me a link to the part of the T.O.S. where it says editing a .pk2 file is illegal pl0x.

The tos encompasses user agreed operation policy. This policy is amendable by JM at any time as they see fit. As part of the operation policy, JM has to notify users what can or cannot be done (and these include official notices). As you know recently JM has made changes to the client to prevent unintended use of hacked clients. Everybody has to run an unaltered normal client (client here is not just referring to sro_client.exe just so you know) or risked getting account blocked, even if the changes you made were only client side.

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

PK2 editing is illegal... JoyMax's TOS is well known for being as outdated as a browser game, but the client is the entire file downloaded and we all know that altering the client is illegal, ergo, PK2 editing is illegal.

But geezes, half these ppl now shouting about the injustices of PK2 editing were on the bandwagon before JM came out and said it was illegal. You guys are like sheep, going with the herd. THe herd now believes PK2 editing to be illegal and here you are, shouting in a thread. I can point out a few threads where I argued about it being illegal before and I bet there are some of you who posted in THIS thread who argued for it NOT being illegal in one of those others because that is what the herd believed then...

Silly

.

Its not like it matters, you cant do it anymore. Even when you could, it didnt really hurt anyone. I mean seriously, how is being able to tell if someone is level 45 or 48 instead of 42 really a big deal. Keep things in perspective people. Do not start vilifying ppl who PK edited things because JM has finally come right out and said its against the rules. 99% of you were ok with it last week.

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