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Barotix
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:14 am |
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soxdrop wrote: lolz after 2 days the wise kid tells whats the situation -.-
euro chars got way biger physical and mag damage than chinese do, i 1 hit any mob on my lvl as a rogue and one hit mobs +5 lv as a wizard
anyway the other options are too dumb ridiculos to discuss so i am only telling this is BS and i don't agree at all
sweet dude me 2
im lvl 24 rogue daggers/cleric
and i kill lvl 32 chicken thingys in 4 seconds dagger desperate for the win
also when im in a party i tank damage ( turn off DD for partys, turn on DD for solo or helping traders)
thats what i do
im soloing lvl 32 mobs right now cause i noticed i get 1.4k ea kill
also i can ks lvl 32 -36 nukers  ksed a giant 2day, got murdered for ksen lol, dropped my shield
anyhoo what build in china can ks a nuker that many lvls higher, AND fight 32 mobs, remember lvl 24
IMHO europe in general ownz china especially if you spam grains ( grains have 3 second delay ^^)
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Krysis
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:37 am |
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i dont care what anyone else says euro chars get owned by china, me n my guild friend today had little pvp's,
im hybrid int, he was full int.
im lv21 he is lv27
he only beat me if he got first hit in, otherwise i would 1 or 2 hit him..
imagine if i had nukes
euro chars get owned..... easily
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Barotix
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:41 am |
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rogue with crossbow
hit 53k at the cap
what build in china can do that
go to youtube abn type in
Euro PvP 2
pause at about 42 seconds and stare in awe at that 53k 8P
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StuckUP
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:41 am |
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Krysis wrote: i dont care what anyone else says euro chars get owned by china, me n my guild friend today had little pvp's, im hybrid int, he was full int. im lv21 he is lv27 he only beat me if he got first hit in, otherwise i would 1 or 2 hit him.. imagine if i had nukes euro chars get owned..... easily
euro char do get owned easily but they do cause massive dmge my lvl 21 dual axe killed a lvl 33 nuker....I like to use stun alot so u know how I did that.....but other than that I dished out some massive dmge....I'm gonna go warlock now..they are the only 1s I have problems with so I can give other ppl problems...lol
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StuckUP
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:44 am |
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Barotix wrote: rogue with crossbow
hit 53k at the cap
what build in china can do that
go to youtube abn type in
Euro PvP 2
pause at about 42 seconds and stare in awe at that 53k 8P
he's telling the truth....that means wizard damage at that lvl will be absolutley scary
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acementor
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:18 am |
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I like china Better too but i think you are being a little one sided there
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Pro_user911
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:08 am |
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greatest advantage of europe is u dun hav to farm for sp just get 1 weapon in warrior rouge mastery
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Philip
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:50 pm |
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I don't agree with all who says that europe is weak....
A wizard friend of mine at lvl 10-15 could 1 hit kill mobs 1-2lvl under his lvl with ice... it was lvl 1 without upgrade buff... and with fire, his main, he could own
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zerstorer
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:10 pm |
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xl_crim_lx wrote: Vorobev wrote: well up to level 30 China dominates entirely, and something else: the speed of Chinese players is far better.
Not only do Europeans have to wait until level 80 to move faster(Body Teleport, Europe has no Grass Walk) but their attack speed is very low. i dont mean to sound like i am flaming .... but have you actually played a high lvl euro ?? You do know there is something called Moving March, which is a lvl 10 bard skill that you can have as a sub mastery. And considering that is just like grass walk, I guess euros dont have to wait till lvl 80. Also, I can tell you have no clue what you are talking about because you would know that Dual Axes are very fast. Possibly one of the fastest attacking builds. And since I have won most of my pvp 1 vs 1 in ksro and in csro ... and even so far in isro, I think your theory about China dominating is wrong. All builds have their pros and their cons. No race is entirely stronger then the other. If you dont know how to use a euro, then go use a glaiver so you can press 2 buttons. 
I'd like to comment about your above mentioned comments (I made it in bold) as you offended me indirectly by commenting such an un-ncesessary...
I have pure str glavier, I also have pure str blader, sword int nuker, spear pure int nuker, pure str bower, hybrid sword char.
I've been playing silkroad for long time more than you can imagine.
pure str glavie is actualy not only 2 buttons. Let me brake it down for you.
Button 1: Soul Spear Soul /SSS
Button 2: Soul Spear Truth /SST
Button 3: Ghost Spear Mars /GSM
Button 4: Ghost Spear Prince /GSP
Button 5: Shield (Changing to shield when i am KD-ed)
Button 6: Glavie (Changing back to Glavie when I stand up from KD)
Button 7: BSS (Dont tell me you dont know BSS, I assume by commenting a glavier above, you know it well already)
This (BSS) is a must have skill - no doubt.
Button 8: FDF (Not for pvp, mainly used for job related action)
Button 9: Vigor
Button 0: FD Series
Chain Spear Series skills are not so useful in pvp/job-war since they dont have mighty stun & KB.
As you can see... being a glavier is not only "then go use a glaiver so you can press 2 buttons"
Back to main Topic:
I love silkroad, thank you for bringing this topic up. I am looking foward to this topic for better comparation between chinese and european chars.
In my opinion, there are advantages and disadvantages between the two. Joymax surely made great deal balance of it. I will try to contribute when I have high level of european chars.
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John_Doe
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:38 pm |
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Krysis wrote: i dont care what anyone else says euro chars get owned by china, me n my guild friend today had little pvp's, im hybrid int, he was full int. im lv21 he is lv27 he only beat me if he got first hit in, otherwise i would 1 or 2 hit him.. imagine if i had nukes euro chars get owned..... easily
lets put a 15sec pot delay on your pots and see what you say after that eh? Saying Europeans are weak cause you own them in pvp, well duh, what did you expect the outcome to be when it takes them 15secs to pot. try fighting them in a group with a group of your own, Clerics group heal would make your damage seem like a scratch to them.
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MrLonely
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:18 pm |
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StuckUP wrote: Barotix wrote: rogue with crossbow
hit 53k at the cap
what build in china can do that
go to youtube abn type in
Euro PvP 2
pause at about 42 seconds and stare in awe at that 53k 8P he's telling the truth....that means wizard damage at that lvl will be absolutley scary
I got nothing against the rogues, but that video is overused. At video Rogue hit that damage cause he got really lucky on critical with his damage increase buff. without critical he would at cap hit only a bit over 10k damage. But remember 1 assault sprint(I think its called that) or any decent skill can 1 hit knock out rogue also. His Hp and def is reduced at that point and is really shit. And in duels, hes nothin at all
I think that lot of people who haven't played ksro or made rogue in Isro sees that video and thinks "OMG 50k dmg WTF and rogue is pure str? he could tank like 5 ppl and kill all O.o" And they don't know waht rogue sacrifices.
Mages also aren't some kind of destruction machines that kill with 1 hit everyone. As much as I know(have seen, talked to high lvl mages, not in Isro ofcourse) they do average 15k, anyway it still takes 2,3 nukes to knock others out.
Of course I don't wanna say they are bad classes, but I think so much over rated.
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ZeFrog
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:38 pm |
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I'd like to see a video of a capped Sword/Shield and capped Glaive fighting  ....the whole video @_@
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Vorobev
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:01 am |
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I will update the guide after 1000 views, 851 at the moment.
Do not worry, i will take many things that you posted in consideration so for now keep on giving me your opinions.
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Elayketran
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:31 am |
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Vorobev
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:38 am |
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Elayketran wrote: WELL, i suppose you want(ed) to start a flame war. .
Not at all, i'm not some sort of forum parasite.
Many people at the moment are wondering is they should stay on China or make an European character their main account.
I'm trying to help these people out, i may have made some mistakes in my guide but the fact remains that if you look closely, China is better...
Oh and by the way, do you really think i would spend so much time on making a guide if it was meant to start a flame war and get closed after 2 days?
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MortaLRecoN
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:41 am |
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Euro powerlevel + Gt ftw.
Better than party play, unless you want to have fun dieing.
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Vorobev
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:02 pm |
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screamatme92
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:34 am |
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screamatme92
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:36 am |
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nightbloom
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:40 am |
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screamatme92 wrote: i totally agree with the opinion that china is better keep in mind this is an opinion and probably not fact but i think that china is faster and euro maybe a hair stronger but i think china has a pretty good damage and such great spead that the crapy pot system of euro cant hold out the chinas attacks plz correct me if you think i am wrong 4 this is a brief opinion 
China is faster? LOLOLOL Im almost lvl 50 on my Euro char. Even a BOTTED china char cant do that.
And the Euro chars are not strong as individuals. But I can buff (im a cleric) a chinese char and make him invincible. So as a group, even a mixed one, they own together.
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blocklandmac
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:45 am |
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This "guide" is really, really biased. =/... The Chinese race has had much more time to be developed, and it's more focused on soloing. The European races are less "versatile", but they are better than the Chinese when it comes to doing certain things. European clerics are much better at supporting than Chinese force characters. Wizards get powerful spells early one. They ARE powerful. I can one-hit KO monsters my level with Fire. (Level 18) I have a level 17 Chinese character and he does like 180 damage with Lion Shout. I do like 600-700 on the same level monster with my Wizard.
European characters also level much faster than Chinese characters. I got to level 13 in a day with a Cleric/Bard and about the same level in a day with my Rogue. (Maybe more... not sure) I have a level 18, level 18, and level 13, and I've only been playing for about a week. (Off and on, since I have family over and I go to my martial arts school for 2-3 hours 6 days a week)
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Vorobev
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:25 pm |
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nightbloom wrote: screamatme92 wrote: i totally agree with the opinion that china is better keep in mind this is an opinion and probably not fact but i think that china is faster and euro maybe a hair stronger but i think china has a pretty good damage and such great spead that the crapy pot system of euro cant hold out the chinas attacks plz correct me if you think i am wrong 4 this is a brief opinion  China is faster? LOLOLOL Im almost lvl 50 on my Euro char. Even a BOTTED china char cant do that. And the Euro chars are not strong as individuals. But I can buff (im a cleric) a chinese char and make him invincible. So as a group, even a mixed one, they own together.
You probably got all of your levels by powerlevelling with a lvl 80 friend, i did powerlevelling in a party only once so i'm only lvl 24, it all depends if you get help or not. Try levelling alone, you'll still be around 50 by Winter.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:29 pm |
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i did not get power lvled once and i got to lvl 23 in a day
all i do is join sum1 that is soloing near where i lvl and we all lvl ten times faster
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:10 am |
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sword/shield euro ftw.
during the first 30 lvls or so i was doubting this build, after lvl 42 its finally starting to get good at pvp.
right now im lvl 49 and got a 48 shield with BR12, hopefully by lvl 64 when i actually work on my gears ill be a lot better, this npc shit is complete crap.
if u want a build thats instantly good at pvp against chinese, go 2handed sword cuz they can knock down. we can only knockback (80% with 2 skills  ) but BR10 npc shields suck big time.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:40 am |
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Vorobev wrote: nightbloom wrote: screamatme92 wrote: i totally agree with the opinion that china is better keep in mind this is an opinion and probably not fact but i think that china is faster and euro maybe a hair stronger but i think china has a pretty good damage and such great spead that the crapy pot system of euro cant hold out the chinas attacks plz correct me if you think i am wrong 4 this is a brief opinion  China is faster? LOLOLOL Im almost lvl 50 on my Euro char. Even a BOTTED china char cant do that. And the Euro chars are not strong as individuals. But I can buff (im a cleric) a chinese char and make him invincible. So as a group, even a mixed one, they own together. You probably got all of your levels by powerlevelling with a lvl 80 friend, i did powerlevelling in a party only once so i'm only lvl 24, it all depends if you get help or not. Try levelling alone, you'll still be around 50 by Winter.
1 week since release of European race.
I'm a Wizard with Cleric sub using light armor.
My level?
Level 45. 100% partying with other Euro's MY LEVEL. People automatically assume that if you reached level 40, you are powerleveling. If you find the right group of people, you can 8-player share party grind almost as fast as powerleveling. You can do the same thing with chinese, but they don't kill quite as fast IMO.
The game really looks balanced, I don't know why everyone is arguing...
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:44 am |
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<<edit-reK >> lol where do you live?
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Vorobev
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:05 am |
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donkyle wrote: i did not get power lvled once and i got to lvl 23 in a day all i do is join sum1 that is soloing near where i lvl and we all lvl ten times faster
that soloing guy was probably 20 levels above you and you were just following him around or teaming on monsters with him doing 90% of the job -.-
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:14 am |
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Colb wrote: Vorobev wrote: nightbloom wrote: screamatme92 wrote: i totally agree with the opinion that china is better keep in mind this is an opinion and probably not fact but i think that china is faster and euro maybe a hair stronger but i think china has a pretty good damage and such great spead that the crapy pot system of euro cant hold out the chinas attacks plz correct me if you think i am wrong 4 this is a brief opinion  China is faster? LOLOLOL Im almost lvl 50 on my Euro char. Even a BOTTED china char cant do that. And the Euro chars are not strong as individuals. But I can buff (im a cleric) a chinese char and make him invincible. So as a group, even a mixed one, they own together. You probably got all of your levels by powerlevelling with a lvl 80 friend, i did powerlevelling in a party only once so i'm only lvl 24, it all depends if you get help or not. Try levelling alone, you'll still be around 50 by Winter. 1 week since release of European race. I'm a Wizard with Cleric sub using light armor. My level? Level 45. 100% partying with other Euro's MY LEVEL. People automatically assume that if you reached level 40, you are powerleveling. If you find the right group of people, you can 8-player share party grind almost as fast as powerleveling. You can do the same thing with chinese, but they don't kill quite as fast IMO. The game really looks balanced, I don't know why everyone is arguing...
i agree wit this person
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:28 am |
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vorebev just shut and stop standing up for china both China and Euro have their pros and cons.....and no I didn't get powerlvled well a little...but they where mostly my lvl
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:17 am |
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John_Doe wrote: For the guy that started this post, you basically telling us what we already know, so who gives a crap?
^Someone is just trying to act cool
Like I said before threads like this aren't pointless, its posts from people like this John Doe dude that are.
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