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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:58 pm 
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Well as I was waiting for the big LY I was talking to a friend, Mon. He is lvl. 80 S/S and we were talking about our builds. He said he was Hybrid with 6 str (2 lvl's) on his character. I told him I was Hybrid too but I was gonna have 40 str points at lvl. 80 on my character. He told me that I wouldn't be able to kill anything. As far as masteries go it'll be:

Bicheon 80

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i'd say you are adding to much str but u will be able to kill.

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He is right. Unless you have a sun sword, you wont really be killing much. Best hybrid for s/s is 90% naked balance. That means putting int 7 lvls of str.

I speak from experience, Ive had a 85% naked balance char and it couldnt kill. However, this was b4 the new skills came out. So maybe with the new skills you will have higher dmg and be able to kill.


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You will have 10k posts...real quick


Says the guy that goes on people's Topics to post about post counts.

Obviously you are just spamming/flaming.

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my leader is 80 s/s with 15 lvl of str so 45 str and using a 73+7 sword... he nuked burn_up, and archer 80 for like 10k+...


he's using the same build u are planning

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8) I gotta get my post count up to compensate for my downfalls in real life.

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my leader is 80 s/s with 15 lvl of str so 45 str and using a 73+7 sword... he nuked burn_up, and archer 80 for like 10k+...


he's using the same build u are planning


Awesome I have a lvl. 72 +5 sword with really high stats. I'm planning on +7ing it. thx Fat_Smurf, you are real help.

Braxton, I'm pretty sure you aren't kidding.

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Marce_ wrote:
Fat_Smurf wrote:
my leader is 80 s/s with 15 lvl of str so 45 str and using a 73+7 sword... he nuked burn_up, and archer 80 for like 10k+...


he's using the same build u are planning


Awesome I have a lvl. 72 +5 sword with really high stats. I'm planning on +7ing it. thx Fat_Smurf, you are real help.

Braxton, I'm pretty sure you aren't kidding.


73+7 sword must own :roll:.If a lvl 80 str gets 10k+ from a int build,that has 45 str,then he should destroy his gear,and npc the elements,and send a bugreport to joymax,to delete his char.Dont go hybrid btw,full int dont need any extra str,you got mana shield,iron wall.That's enough to tank.

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you both have bad builds :roll:

he added too little str to make a difference, and in reality he just hurt himself by cutting his damage for like 300 more hp.

and you're adding too much, damage will be soooo low, but with snow shield youll be a tanking god for 2 minutes.

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MrFudge wrote:
you both have bad builds :roll:

he added too little str to make a difference, and in reality he just hurt himself by cutting his damage for like 300 more hp.

and you're adding too much, damage will be soooo low, but with snow shield youll be a tanking god for 2 minutes.


Actually 40 str would give you 1.5k HP. That just tells me how much you know, no offense though.

I've done some calculations and i'll lose between 500-1k dmg per nuke. I will try to organize a post of what I will use and I will be wearing protector. As a matter of fact I'm making a guide on how to make a Hybrid S/S charcter that can tank and kill.

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Fat_Smurf wrote:
my leader is 80 s/s with 15 lvl of str so 45 str and using a 73+7 sword... he nuked burn_up, and archer 80 for like 10k+...


he's using the same build u are planning


lol, the archer must be wearing armor with no buff

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Marce_ wrote:
MrFudge wrote:
you both have bad builds :roll:

he added too little str to make a difference, and in reality he just hurt himself by cutting his damage for like 300 more hp.

and you're adding too much, damage will be soooo low, but with snow shield youll be a tanking god for 2 minutes.


Actually 40 str would give you 1.5k HP. That just tells me how much you know, no offense though.

I've done some calculations and i'll lose between 500-1k dmg per nuke. I will try to organize a post of what I will use and I will be wearing protector. As a matter of fact I'm making a guide on how to make a Hybrid S/S charcter that can tank and kill.


Shows how well you read seeing as he meant that the 6 lvls of str would add 300 hp. Not the 40 str..


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Yasakira wrote:
Marce_ wrote:
MrFudge wrote:
you both have bad builds :roll:

he added too little str to make a difference, and in reality he just hurt himself by cutting his damage for like 300 more hp.

and you're adding too much, damage will be soooo low, but with snow shield youll be a tanking god for 2 minutes.


Actually 40 str would give you 1.5k HP. That just tells me how much you know, no offense though.

I've done some calculations and i'll lose between 500-1k dmg per nuke. I will try to organize a post of what I will use and I will be wearing protector. As a matter of fact I'm making a guide on how to make a Hybrid S/S charcter that can tank and kill.


Shows how well you read seeing as he meant that the 6 lvls of str would add 300 hp. Not the 40 str..


Oooops I accept my error and that's why I said no offense though. I'm not trying to start a flame thread. Thx for the heads up ^^

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Marce_ wrote:
Actually 40 str would give you 1.5k HP. That just tells me how much you know, no offense though.


I LOL'd :) not you Marce but the other guy LOL

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Marce_ wrote:
Actually 40 str would give you 1.5k HP. That just tells me how much you know, no offense though.


I LOL'd :) not you Marce but the other guy LOL


Oh lol, just a big mix up.

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My old char had 40 points of str... Are you copying me? That's fine, I have lots of fans :P.

I think you SHOULD be able to kill alot, you'll have a 85% mag balance naked I believe, that should be plenty sufficient.


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My old char had 40 points of str... Are you copying me? That's fine, I have lots of fans :P.

I think you SHOULD be able to kill alot, you'll have a 85% mag balance naked I believe, that should be plenty sufficient.


What lvl and build was your old character.

btw Im not copying, just trying something new. I am a fan though. YOu are one of the few non flamers here ^^

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yeah typo it's 72+7 not 73 :roll:


and I was going pure int and I'm thinking about getitng 10 lvl of str cause we have some pure int in our guild and even with full sun set and sun weapon they still die fast with the new skill, pure int use to rock before but now it's hybrid time :P

oh and im pretty sure the archer was wearing garm caus ei sold him a +4 or +5 fully pimped garm chest :D

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My old char had 40 points of str... Are you copying me? That's fine, I have lots of fans :P.

I think you SHOULD be able to kill alot, you'll have a 85% mag balance naked I believe, that should be plenty sufficient.


What lvl and build was your old character.

btw Im not copying, just trying something new. I am a fan though. YOu are one of the few non flamers here ^^


Cool 8)

I was level 54 before the "incident". I was able to kill absolutely every character at my level or below, except for 2 characters on my server. I didn't even have any sos. I had a 4 gap, not very well farmed at all :S, but I was still good :)

If you have fully blued gear, and at least a +3 weapon you should be able to kill everyone.

I, by the way, didn't have fully blued gear, only like 25 int or something on my gear.


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Well I have lvl 64 Sos Sword +4 and Shield. I am lvl. 69 and one SoSun crown +4 Full blued. Most is stuff is nicely blued except for a NPC shoes (waiting for the lvl. 70 shoes)

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i am having no trouble killing a lvl 71 character my nuke hits them about 6k and my kds are 4k each but i am only lvl 71 not 80 :roll: anyway i do think i'll be able to kill with 85% magic balance at lvl 80 (especially now with the effects of the lightning chain)

i killed meh lvl 68 full sos with 68+7 spear easily

i wear full +3 and have very low lvls buff btw

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my leader is 80 s/s with 15 lvl of str so 45 str and using a 73+7 sword... he nuked burn_up, and archer 80 for like 10k+...


he's using the same build u are planning


now who could that be? >.>

Yes, im 80 hybrid nuker with the same build your going for, Alps server. First of all, your friend with 6 str isnt too bright. 6str isnt enough to make a difference in hp / phy def... 40 is good. With my +7 sword i hit burn_up, as said before, with a 13.7k nuke, and ive hit a full sun glaiver in prot with a 13k nuke(lilk). Im undefeated on alps server in 1v1 and even done 3v1 against 80s and won. Ive only lost to a full sun int nuker Orlin -.- grrrr but hes mad whack in suns. With a sun sword, i could kill anyone.

Im sure someone will still argue this, but i can give u first hand experience on it. So take it as you like.

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Marce_ wrote:
Well as I was waiting for the big LY I was talking to a friend, Mon. He is lvl. 80 S/S and we were talking about our builds. He said he was Hybrid with 6 str (2 lvl's) on his character. I told him I was Hybrid too but I was gonna have 40 str points at lvl. 80 on my character. He told me that I wouldn't be able to kill anything. As far as masteries go it'll be:

Bicheon 80

Fire 80

Light 80

Cold 60



It depends.... your nukes wouldn't be as strong, but you will be a lot more of a worthy adversary in PVPing than ur friend.


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