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What Imbue I must use?
Ice 19%  19%  [ 8 ]
Fire 60%  60%  [ 25 ]
Both 21%  21%  [ 9 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:43 pm 
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Ice= Good at PVE, Against Euro characters(maybe)... less dmg but your target gets forsbiten making them slow.
Fire= Good at PVP, PVE, not bad against Euro(maybe)... has a DOT(Damage Over Time) and it also has high damge...

or both?.. but is kinda waste of precious SP...

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i dont think Light is very usefull...
please explain briefly...

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why do u even ask... I say fire but thats just MY opinion :roll: you have yours

just build whatever you want ur char to be

fire = higher damage

ice = frostbite


you choose

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I'm having hard time deciding on this n00bish simple question...

I like fire cause its like, Its Better to kill first than getting killed.

and i also like Ice Cause it have Freezing and Forsbite... but in the end high lvl characters are already immune to Ice...

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your sig is that you??


to the topic..its depends what weapon you used but i think youre using bow go for fire..and dont lvl your ice get the glaive skill..

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I like ice specialy the new snow shield but i wana get the ice imbue... the only thing its stoping me is the stupid Immunity :x

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Lightning is essential because of the speed buffs. Or you'll be slow like a 80 year old grandmother chasing a ferrari.

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I'm assuming that you're a pure str archer, so take lightning. 3 reasons

1. you are pure str, and all three imbues are 100% so the dmg will be hardly noticeble.

2. Speed is the most essential thing if your a bowman, Hit 'n Run tactics work very good.

3. It saves you a shitload of SP, lvl up till 7x with 2 trees ( light+pach) and then take the buffs you need from fire and ice ( if your going to farm at 7x)

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hehehe sorry guys i forgot to place my build, here it goes:

If I'll use Ice for build...
    80 Pacheon
    80 Ice
    70 Fire
    70 Light


If I'll use Fire for Build...
    80 Pacheon
    70 Ice
    80 Fire
    70 Light



i would like to use glavie but i will remove the ice for exchange

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Hmm, if you say that fire is best at pvp because of dmg, and at pve for the same thing, wouldn't you think that was your predetermined answer?

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fire do wat im doing. Raise fire for imbue, and Ice for the cool side moves. But u will have to sp farm a decent amount of sp. Thats wat im doing.

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Being a bowman myself, I'm at this stage right now

23 Pacheon
23 Cold
23 Light
23 Fire

What I want during farming is

55 Pacheon
23 Cold
55 Light
55 Fire

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80 Pacheon
80 Light
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use fire, not b/c the imbue matters, but b/c of the fires magical defense buff, you are pure, why do u need more phys defense from ice...lvl fire to 80


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DS^ wrote:
I'm assuming that you're a pure str archer, so take lightning. 3 reasons

1. you are pure str, and all three imbues are 100% so the dmg will be hardly noticeble.

2. Speed is the most essential thing if your a bowman, Hit 'n Run tactics work very good.

3. It saves you a shitload of SP, lvl up till 7x with 2 trees ( light+pach) and then take the buffs you need from fire and ice ( if your going to farm at 7x)


+1 For your situation I would recommend this one Pinoy_Archer

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the ice immunity is was supposed to be fixed in the euro patch, but it seems to not have worked

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i say get 80 fire with imbue and get 70 ice with imbue also. Pick and choose. In PVP, if u find that someone isn't immune to ice, use the ice imbue. If they are immune, use fire.

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BTW. imunity will be gone soon. Maybe its already is. Cuz firse shield. Not able to upgrade more. And imbue effects raising. i suggest ice. Archer ice pvp with knockback stuns
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so anoying and CRIts.... Woot

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I'm still noobishlly confused :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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you'd be surprise at how many high lvls aren't immune to ice.

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Well, if ice makes em slower, then you can pump them full of more arrows before they get in their attack range.

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Matrixman__ wrote:
use fire, not b/c the imbue matters, but b/c of the fires magical defense buff, you are pure, why do u need more phys defense from ice...lvl fire to 80


+1. Simple logic


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more is better. More work, but better in pvp. I'm just waiting for a mod to move this to the right section -.-

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get fire imbue i dont see the point in lvling an entire tree for one skill

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Has anyone played with high lvl archer skills? o_0

They fire alot... waaay alot faster than what it used to be. A typical 1on1 pvp does not involve tactical disengagement anymore (hit and run). Take fire for maxing damage (although the damage increase isnt that much, even the DOT effect can be made immune against, but not many players would do it) and mentioned earlier that the mag def buff is important for your pure str char. If you prefer to play in groups, lightning imbue would be better, not only do you save sp when lvling the archer, but the transfer from the imbue can transmit your kb, and can also drag more mobs to you (which is good if you have excellent pve skills). I suggest not taking ice for imbue. You dont need the phy def buff, and you dont need the snow shield to be that high (usually 30% is max, and would suffice for pure str char). Snow shield helps cut down both mag and phy based damage.

In other words, it increases your hp by % absorption of the snow shield. Say 30% snow shield = 30% of your mp becomes your hp. Makes sense? Good.

Specifically for your char, dont lvl ice beyond lvl 30. Keep leveling everything else up. If you just want to lvl up quick, take fire. If you want to start farming, go to weaker mobs and use light imbue to drag more. Up to you, its just what I did with my archer. Hope that helps.

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Sylhana wrote:
Has anyone played with high lvl archer skills? o_0

They fire alot... waaay alot faster than what it used to be. A typical 1on1 pvp does not involve tactical disengagement anymore (hit and run). Take fire for maxing damage (although the damage increase isnt that much, even the DOT effect can be made immune against, but not many players would do it) and mentioned earlier that the mag def buff is important for your pure str char. If you prefer to play in groups, lightning imbue would be better, not only do you save sp when lvling the archer, but the transfer from the imbue can transmit your kb, and can also drag more mobs to you (which is good if you have excellent pve skills). I suggest not taking ice for imbue. You dont need the phy def buff, and you dont need the snow shield to be that high (usually 30% is max, and would suffice for pure str char). Snow shield helps cut down both mag and phy based damage.

In other words, it increases your hp by % absorption of the snow shield. Say 30% snow shield = 30% of your mp becomes your hp. Makes sense? Good.

Specifically for your char, dont lvl ice beyond lvl 30. Keep leveling everything else up. If you just want to lvl up quick, take fire. If you want to start farming, go to weaker mobs and use light imbue to drag more. Up to you, its just what I did with my archer. Hope that helps.


You mean that i lvl ice to like lvl 30 even if fire is my build? and i dont need snow shield...
and yes i'm getting all the buffs...

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Thunder imbue is fantastic. Go for: 80 pach 80 light 80 fire 60 force/cold. This build is fantastic.

Thunder imbue = parry decrease + AR increase from hawk and passive + AR increase from devil arrow + pure STR + crit = :shock: :shock: :shock:

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[SD]Stress wrote:
Thunder imbue is fantastic. Go for: 80 pach 80 light 80 fire 60 force/cold. This build is fantastic.

Thunder imbue = parry decrease + AR increase from hawk and passive + AR increase from devil arrow + pure STR + crit = :shock: :shock: :shock:


PUTANG INA!!!(mother .....!!!) I never thought of it before :shock: :shock:
should i add a poll on it?

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Pinoy_Archer ... take in mind that most int's have now dropped fire to get ice or force. Thus making them prone to frostbite.

I'd either go light or fire tho, Ice is just ... bleh.


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Pinoy_Archer wrote:
Sylhana wrote:
Has anyone played with high lvl archer skills? o_0

They fire alot... waaay alot faster than what it used to be. A typical 1on1 pvp does not involve tactical disengagement anymore (hit and run). Take fire for maxing damage (although the damage increase isnt that much, even the DOT effect can be made immune against, but not many players would do it) and mentioned earlier that the mag def buff is important for your pure str char. If you prefer to play in groups, lightning imbue would be better, not only do you save sp when lvling the archer, but the transfer from the imbue can transmit your kb, and can also drag more mobs to you (which is good if you have excellent pve skills). I suggest not taking ice for imbue. You dont need the phy def buff, and you dont need the snow shield to be that high (usually 30% is max, and would suffice for pure str char). Snow shield helps cut down both mag and phy based damage.

In other words, it increases your hp by % absorption of the snow shield. Say 30% snow shield = 30% of your mp becomes your hp. Makes sense? Good.

Specifically for your char, dont lvl ice beyond lvl 30. Keep leveling everything else up. If you just want to lvl up quick, take fire. If you want to start farming, go to weaker mobs and use light imbue to drag more. Up to you, its just what I did with my archer. Hope that helps.


You mean that i lvl ice to like lvl 30 even if fire is my build? and i dont need snow shield...
and yes i'm getting all the buffs...


Urgh, maybe I wrote too much cause you arent reading.

Take only a low lvl snow shield. 20%~30% would get you some benefit. Too high and you run out of mp when you get hit.

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