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Have you seen the 8D SoSun Bow +9 on that server.. i forget which.. its sweet!


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Ehrm...I tried this bug with my cousin and it worked..
But now we willl be banned?
Cuz i think it mess up with JM's server.

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when you sell an item through stall network...there is a slight delay during that delay the image of the item stays in your inventory even while the other person has bought the item...the scam occurs due to this "illusion" of duplicate items...they do this with an arrow then they tell you to duplicate your sun/moon/star... you sell them the item for cheap thinking you will get money and keep your item.

-nothing is free in this game...costs you time money and soul :twisted:

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when you sell an item through stall network...there is a slight delay during that delay the image of the item stays in your inventory even while the other person has bought the item...the scam occurs due to this "illusion" of duplicate items...they do this with an arrow then they tell you to duplicate your sun/moon/star... you sell them the item for cheap thinking you will get money and keep your item.

-nothing is free in this game...costs you time money and soul :twisted:


lol most people wont understand that.
and people who scam... well i dont get scammed so i could care less, i have no sox, just crud +s with no blues so i have nothing worth scamming.

and well ill explain how it works 18er if some1 doesnt do it b4 me

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yes it is partly real you get two of the object but when you logg off it disappears and you cant weild or trade it there is a working way to duplicate items but the sec you duplicate it like 5 secs later ull get banned

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yes it is partly real you get two of the object but when you logg off it disappears and you cant weild or trade it there is a working way to duplicate items but the sec you duplicate it like 5 secs later ull get banned


You never ever duplicate an item... what really happens is that the IMAGE OF THE ITEM doesn't go away after the person buys it. So you DO NOT HAVE IT... but you see a picture of the item in your inventory... but you can't use it in any way. You can't even move it in your inventory, or sell it, or anything... it doesn't exist.

Then when you log on again, or teleport, the system reloads the objects in your inventory and the item no longer shows up.

The way the scam worked was that someone would tell you there was a way to duplicate stuff... then they would prove it to you. You could sell them arrows or pots and you'd still see them in your inventory and you'd be fooled into thinking it really did duplicate stuff.

Then they'd say "since I showed you this cool trick, will you let me duplicate your SOM weapon?" and so you'd stupidly add your SOM into the stall network for like 1M... and they'd buy it... legitimately... for 1M. And you'd have 990k and they'd have your SOM.

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Oh, and just to follow up on this whole thing... they may have fixed this. I tried to show someone how to do it and we could no longer register items with the stall network while outside city limits.

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yes its not really like other scams in the sense that the victims greed cause their own downfall, its kinda fun tho , but kinda sad :roll:

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Didnt i say dont post how... Now Im burning to try it!!!!!

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It reminds me of a magik trick.. you show them one thing they fall for it then u do da real trick and bam Pooph its a whole other thing

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Even if there was a way to dupe in most MMOs like this all items (Individual drops or items that are bought via an NPC) are recorded with a specific ID in the database. If the system detects a duplicate item it will probably auto ban both accounts. Just a warning to those who want to mess with duping items. Weather they have their system setup that way or not theres always a risk.

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Foss wrote:
Even if there was a way to dupe in most MMOs like this all items (Individual drops or items that are bought via an NPC) are recorded with a specific ID in the database. If the system detects a duplicate item it will probably auto ban both accounts. Just a warning to those who want to mess with duping items. Weather they have their system setup that way or not theres always a risk.


They don't auto ban, but it flags your account for a GM to review. If you ever find a dupe its best to use an account that you don't mind losing, then dupe and sell to npc over and over. Even then you have a high chance of getting caught, you have a chance of getting away with it if you use moderation.

Joymax assigns each and every item with a unique identifier, if you dupe it will share the same one. But for some reason dropping it on the ground and picking it back up assigns it a new identifier. Even then they caught and fixed that dupe within 12 hours. But I can assure you they did not recode how items receive unique identifiers.

Chaud case was not duping items but gold. He was dumb enough to dupe billions. Then claim he did that amount on purpose to force JM to fix it, or course that was a piss poor cover up to try and hide stupidity. That was a gold dupe only, you make two guilds and guild war yourself without actually having the gold.

There is still one guild on Athens that used the dupe and no one got banned, moderation is key =)


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So...I won't get ban for this,because it's not a duplication but just a non-existant image?

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So...I won't get ban for this,because it's not a duplication but just a non-existant image?


Yup.

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Its a glitch or bug.. opening a stall away from town or safe zone.

Then its abused...
Then a scam happens...

But you need a stupid person to pull it.


That's not duping .. it's more like selling an item that's not really there :P

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