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									 Post subject: Nerf the damn things  Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:12 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						So, I spent more than a year getting to 80 so, I could be one shot by gay powerleveled rogues. I mean it's ok for euros to have higher damage. But whats too much is too much!        
					
  
						
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:16 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 euro is team fight...so you get chinese teamfight...you give your life so your friends can kill the euros :- ) 
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:18 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but,  their damage is fair, because they die so easily 
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:24 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						foudre wrote: i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but,  their damage is fair, because they die so easily 
imho it dun matter how fast you die if everything trying ot kill you is allready dead  
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:27 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 chinese were made to be solo. getting 1 shotted is not solo. chinese cant fight without a euro to buff them. they messed up big time. rouges need to have there damage lowered and defence raised. enough that they need to get 2 hits off, but not enough to make them another useless pure str build.
 
 warriors also need a defence raise. kinda sucks if my tank cant tank.... 
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:27 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						piootr wrote: foudre wrote: i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but,  their damage is fair, because they die so easily imho it dun matter how fast you die if everything trying ot kill you is allready dead  
the very essence of a nuker
 just make sure you get all of them  
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:46 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 The reason for such high damage is that they have delay potion. If you read some of the tread earlier you will know that at higher lvl cap most euro characters will not learn any new attacks. So it would balance at the end. Also, if you watch on youtube with ksro you dont see many euro players mostly chinese because they knew this already ahead of time. Unfortunately for us, joymax does not provide this informations so we are screw like always. 
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:56 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 besides rogues, are meant for pvp compared to fighting creatures, thats what they excell at. If you had a team with you, that rogue would have been toast as soon as he killed you. Don't go jobbing solo 
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:22 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						foudre wrote: piootr wrote: foudre wrote: i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but,  their damage is fair, because they die so easily imho it dun matter how fast you die if everything trying ot kill you is allready dead the very essence of a nuker just make sure you get all of them  
While I'm half done cooking my nuke, Rogue already kills me.  
					
  
						
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:30 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						SomebodyFromTheMass wrote: foudre wrote: piootr wrote: foudre wrote: i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but,  their damage is fair, because they die so easily imho it dun matter how fast you die if everything trying ot kill you is allready dead the very essence of a nuker just make sure you get all of them While I'm half done cooking my nuke, Rogue already kills me.  
............my life story of pvp right there.....same with wizzies their nukes cast much faster then ours and stgill do more dmg even without life control  
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:32 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						piootr wrote: SomebodyFromTheMass wrote: foudre wrote: piootr wrote: foudre wrote: i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but,  their damage is fair, because they die so easily imho it dun matter how fast you die if everything trying ot kill you is allready dead the very essence of a nuker just make sure you get all of them While I'm half done cooking my nuke, Rogue already kills me. ............my life story of pvp right there.....same with wizzies their nukes cast much faster then ours and stgill do more dmg even without life control  Too bad for you guys...
  When I play my nuker, against rogues I use ice wall. Kill them every time unless they're out of range.
  Fire wall against wizards. Dead.  
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:35 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 well euro vs chinese is like who gives the first hit wins lol. 
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						 isn't that the assassin style? If you sneak up to your enemy and do one deadly move he is dead, if you make a mistake and do not kill him first, you can become the losing one, or if there are people around who witness that and kills you, the way of the rogue. So walk around in party. Do not make pure int and go trade run alone, those guys make me laugh 
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:05 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						foudre wrote: besides rogues, are meant for pvp compared to fighting creatures, thats what they excell at. If you had a team with you, that rogue would have been toast as soon as he killed you. Don't go jobbing solo 
LOL you don't know rogue very well do you. My 50ish rogue has dropped traders/transports under the guard of several 69+ many suns and lived to tell the tale. Further I walk right up in front of them and take their goods. Then walk away. Most times they sit there scratching their heads going wtf just happened. Wiz can do it too.  
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:25 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						Fly wrote: chinese were made to be solo. getting 1 shotted is not solo. chinese cant fight without a euro to buff them. they messed up big time. rouges need to have there damage lowered and defence raised. enough that they need to get 2 hits off, but not enough to make them another useless pure str build.
  warriors also need a defence raise. kinda sucks if my tank cant tank.... 
+1 lol
 i mean sure its okay for the 45 seconds we have buffs, but after that waiting for the cooldown, psh forget about it.  
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:52 pm   | 
				 
				 
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:03 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						I have to agree though, there is this 52+ rogue. I'm a level 61 archer. Whenever I go out of town with a cape and he is nearby, he freaking backstabs me. I mean, stop it! Enought already! I want to mess around with cape, and you critting me for over my HP is not helping it.     
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:10 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 let me rephrase what i said before then
 Don't go jobbing solo or with an incompetent party or on high lvl trades without detection of some sort 
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