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Your always gonna have stronger characters ruining your jobbing.

Jobbing isn't safe and shouldn't be, go in groups.

Even when you hit Lv 80, your gonna worry about a Lv 80 SoSun Thief ruining your Trade.

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Here we go again. Another person who has failed to see the point of an MMO.

I will put a few simple questions to you.

1. If you have spent a year grinding to lvl 80, would you like it if you could only kill people your lvl and not have the ability to fight anyone else after such hard work?

2. Do you think that you are forced to trade by yourself, or hunter by yourself? or theif by yourself?

Plain and simply this is an MMO. It supports team work and communication. Thats what all MMO's do. I started thieving at lvl 32. I had 2 lvl 60 thieves helping me out. Because of this i was able to thief successfully, even popping lvl 20 traders. But i was only able to do these due to team work.

By taking advantage of all your resources, you will be able to efficiently make the best of your time and effort.

Also if someone has grinded to lvl 80, they should have the right to kill a low lvl trader. Why would anyone grind for so long if they couldn't even have some fun at the end of it? Low lvls shouldn't be invincible just because they are too lazy to grind.

Theres my 2 cents


you deserve 3c change :P

1. Does anyone really find it fun to kill players 20 lvls lower? 5-10 lvl gap on attack would be fine

2. Nope, but 4 lvl 20's != lvl 80 ...

3. You started thieving at lvl 32 ... WITH TWO LVL 60 + HELPERS ???????
gg retard, what did you do in this group? pick up a bit of loot with protection? Nothing pisses me off more in this game than low lvl jobbers with high lvl protection. Why? because it means all jobbers are high level, essentially.

You know what's farking boring? the triangular system.
Fun: Trading with one star and knowing you could get popped (old sys)
Boring: Trading one star knowing you can't get popped (new sys)

Fun: Trading knowing you might have a fight on ur hands (doesn't exist till lvl 80)
Boring: Sitting on a cammel while highlevels do all the killing (any trades 40 +)

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In that hour you were "trying" to thieve at level 20, you could have already leveled up, it's the hard truth, but until you do level up, you will only get 1 shotted every time you leave town.

I like the trade system, I personally think it's one of the few good parts of sro.



nice. till you lvl to 80 you will get pwned jobbing, so 99% of this game is grinding, the triangle sux

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[cries] But I WANNT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! :cry: [/cries]

dont blame the job system. before the job update, trading and thiefing was dead. now its back to bearly breathing. not perfect but better then non existant.

unless they take out bots and do something about the gold ticket, jobbing wont ever be like it was during the 60 cap. no more server trades. no more union trades. trading is for a group or 2 or 3 to do. take a back route, sneak into town, make cash, go back to leveling. this game is all about the leveling.

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Here we go again. Another person who has failed to see the point of an MMO.

I will put a few simple questions to you.

1. If you have spent a year grinding to lvl 80, would you like it if you could only kill people your lvl and not have the ability to fight anyone else after such hard work?

2. Do you think that you are forced to trade by yourself, or hunter by yourself? or theif by yourself?

Plain and simply this is an MMO. It supports team work and communication. Thats what all MMO's do. I started thieving at lvl 32. I had 2 lvl 60 thieves helping me out. Because of this i was able to thief successfully, even popping lvl 20 traders. But i was only able to do these due to team work.

By taking advantage of all your resources, you will be able to efficiently make the best of your time and effort.

Also if someone has grinded to lvl 80, they should have the right to kill a low lvl trader. Why would anyone grind for so long if they couldn't even have some fun at the end of it? Low lvls shouldn't be invincible just because they are too lazy to grind.

Theres my 2 cents


you deserve 3c change :P

1. Does anyone really find it fun to kill players 20 lvls lower? 5-10 lvl gap on attack would be fine

2. Nope, but 4 lvl 20's != lvl 80 ...

3. You started thieving at lvl 32 ... WITH TWO LVL 60 + HELPERS ???????
gg retard, what did you do in this group? pick up a bit of loot with protection? Nothing pisses me off more in this game than low lvl jobbers with high lvl protection. Why? because it means all jobbers are high level, essentially.


You know what's farking boring? the triangular system.
Fun: Trading with one star and knowing you could get popped (old sys)
Boring: Trading one star knowing you can't get popped (new sys)

Fun: Trading knowing you might have a fight on ur hands (doesn't exist till lvl 80)
Boring: Sitting on a cammel while highlevels do all the killing (any trades 40 +)


In fact i was contributing to the team. Due to my high draw distance, my keen ability to notice things, etc, i was seeing 2 if not 3 times the traders that my thieving counterparts were. The more people we had, the easier it was to hunt down traders, no matter what lvl. Remember my lvl 32 npc thieves could still freeze a 60 ox :roll:

Once they popped a trader, we would split the good 3 ways. It was my 1st time ever thieving and they were simply showing me what it was like. It had nothing to do with profit, it was simply to have a bit of fun. Now i fail to see why that deserves the insult of "retard".


And yes i do find it fun to kill low lvl people. Sitting on vent, or ts, thieving together screaming out "noob down" when ever i kill a low lvl player, it gives me a power rush. So yes it is fun.


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In that hour you were "trying" to thieve at level 20, you could have already leveled up, it's the hard truth, but until you do level up, you will only get 1 shotted every time you leave town.

I like the trade system, I personally think it's one of the few good parts of sro.

thats why i say to all :Lvl Up To 64 And Then Have Fun Jobbing!!!



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tedtwilliger wrote:
Here we go again. Another person who has failed to see the point of an MMO.

I will put a few simple questions to you.

1. If you have spent a year grinding to lvl 80, would you like it if you could only kill people your lvl and not have the ability to fight anyone else after such hard work?

2. Do you think that you are forced to trade by yourself, or hunter by yourself? or theif by yourself?

Plain and simply this is an MMO. It supports team work and communication. Thats what all MMO's do. I started thieving at lvl 32. I had 2 lvl 60 thieves helping me out. Because of this i was able to thief successfully, even popping lvl 20 traders. But i was only able to do these due to team work.

By taking advantage of all your resources, you will be able to efficiently make the best of your time and effort.

Also if someone has grinded to lvl 80, they should have the right to kill a low lvl trader. Why would anyone grind for so long if they couldn't even have some fun at the end of it? Low lvls shouldn't be invincible just because they are too lazy to grind.

Theres my 2 cents
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merch,hunt and thief.....
those are the 3 best parts of SRO :D
theres nothing wrong with it, there must be something wrong with you

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PB_and_J wrote:
In that hour you were "trying" to thieve at level 20, you could have already leveled up, it's the hard truth, but until you do level up, you will only get 1 shotted every time you leave town.

I like the trade system, I personally think it's one of the few good parts of sro.



nice. till you lvl to 80 you will get pwned jobbing, so 99% of this game is grinding, the triangle sux

yes that's right
only lvl 70+ players would say we like the system
coz they hardly pwned
and what they gain when they kill level 20-40 player
nothing,they just wrongly feels that they did a gr8 thing
at least
not 5 level gap for attack is fine
it's sux
it'd be better that everybody under the same 10 levels like 30s player and 40s players
that would be fair enough
but now it's hard to go to the bandit den and take merchants quest with trader suit
cuz u'll be pwned at the moment when u r out
so don't say that it's good
it's just good for high levels :x

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PB_and_J wrote:
In that hour you were "trying" to thieve at level 20, you could have already leveled up, it's the hard truth, but until you do level up, you will only get 1 shotted every time you leave town.

I like the trade system, I personally think it's one of the few good parts of sro.

thats why i say to all :Lvl Up To 64 And Then Have Fun Jobbing!!!



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and what about people under level 64
just bored and want to job
a long way grinding
noooooooooooo
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To put it in perspective, for me, it's been one year and I've leveled up to lv 30 on one account.

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To put it in perspective, for me, it's been one year and I've leveled up to lv 30 on one account.


you dont play enough...
1 suggestion,
after every1 gets used 2 playing this like a real MMo

use a euro :)

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IMO the trade system is much better its more lively

I mean b4 there were tons of thieves and very few hunters and even if u got a high lvl hunter your not practically safe.I went on a 4* trade wit a lvl 60ish hunter but then he took off his suit i was like WTF???.He logged then relogged and he put on his thief suit then he pwned me.

Now wit the new system u can only stick to 1 job which i think is great but i must say its dumb to wait like a week just to switch.Anyways ppl need to realise Without risk theres no REAL money taken from snigglez.Anyway at least traders have PROTECTION to some point i mean thieves need to make money to and hunters need to actually do there job.Now there are more hunters protecting traders.Personally im a hunter changed from merchant.I liked thiefing but there are just to little hunters to fight so i switched to have some fun and enjoy the game besides job wars at DW would suck if u can only fight ppl around your lvl cuz usually there 64+ ppl jobbing there.

If u dont wanna get pwned go lvl.

Damn long post :P

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ok seriosuly the only safe job to do at low lvl is trade , since it doesnt involve pvp and that is only since recently that it is safe.

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Obviously, job level restrictions and guild wars are totally different things. Theyre different. Simply because there are level restrictions for jobs doesnt mean it must be for guild wars. Lets think flexibly.


Let me rephrase. At the server I'm playing, its hard to find a guild war so jobbing is probably the only team activity we do on a regular basis. Its whats keeping us together in the union (among other things like cape fights, equipment trading, socializing etc). The level restriction would further impair what wouldve been a union activity.

Sorry, I still cant seem to understand your point. What I can say right now, is, that your server isnt the only server. Simply because in one server, one union, and one person experiences such, doesnt apply to the dozen other servers.

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one thing is.
korean air makes a lot of posts when they could easily be answered by search funtion as somebody had said above.

second.
yes there no risk in stalling. no shit. but yes some glitches i guess.
but we're talking about jobbing

third.
your a noob. yes you are. no point complaining after its been done like 50 times. your just posting because your level 20-25 weak. and proably got robbed.

you want to make money. make friends. do u have any? make friends and see if they're hunter.

if they're hunter you could ask them to help u do mutli star.

there are many different ways to get from city to city. city to stronghold or trade point.

and if you cant see it. your just blind.
if you take a tour around silkroad. just on a horse around when your bored.
you will see a ton of areas where nobody goes. maybe bots but thats it.
and lik yeah... bots gonna global your on a trade run.. right.

yes it hurts to be low level we were ALl low level once we know how it feels to get robbed or so. you get back up. and correct your mistakes.

in the game for jobbing.
if you want to make money
like i said before..

without a certain ammount of risk there is NO REAL MONEY.


I feel sorry for you. Its plain to me that youre a lowlife sucker. Get out of here :) .

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aww im sorry got nothing to say? =[

got nothing to say now? aww its okay

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Joymax saying HURRY UP and LvL LOL,

I like the new system, cept the 1 week ban from job guilds when you wanna change. The Ranking Board = Awesome.


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aww im sorry got nothing to say? =[

got nothing to say now? aww its okay


You should work on your english, turk.

Get out of here :) .

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The new system is much better than the old one, but it still sucks... :(

I'm a lvl 41 thief and i can pop a 1* here, kill a hunter there... Sometimes i find a lvl ~50 trader, doing a 2*, and i try to kill him... But that's it.


Staying outside of a town with some lvl 80's? No way.
Running into a 5* and trying to get the loot? Never.
Surviving the bandit scroll? Only if i reach a spot on the map where nobody grinds, bots, stays around...
Riding around on my lvl 30 horse? Come on, lvl 70+ hunters follow me all day long.

Ok, i could become a trader... 1* protection? Hehe, lvl 41 ftw.
Hunter? I'm not lvl 80, so there is no reason for a hunter career.


I know:
"Grind on and get to lvl 80 soon, noob!"
"If you're lvl 80, you want to pwn da noob!"
"Get some high lvl friends!"


Combined:
You will always get killed if you're not lvl 70+.
Do 1* trades between lvl 30 and 40 and that's it.


The whole conflict system is about reaching the highest level.
The whole game is about it, lol.


The point is that you can't have fun while jobbing if you're between lvl 20 and 70+.

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man, southkorea pussy boy, we're telling u what sro's about, take it in and stfu.

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Here we go again. Another person who has failed to see the point of an MMO.

I will put a few simple questions to you.

1. If you have spent a year grinding to lvl 80, would you like it if you could only kill people your lvl and not have the ability to fight anyone else after such hard work?

2. Do you think that you are forced to trade by yourself, or hunter by yourself? or theif by yourself?

Plain and simply this is an MMO. It supports team work and communication. Thats what all MMO's do. I started thieving at lvl 32. I had 2 lvl 60 thieves helping me out. Because of this i was able to thief successfully, even popping lvl 20 traders. But i was only able to do these due to team work.

By taking advantage of all your resources, you will be able to efficiently make the best of your time and effort.

Also if someone has grinded to lvl 80, they should have the right to kill a low lvl trader. Why would anyone grind for so long if they couldn't even have some fun at the end of it? Low lvls shouldn't be invincible just because they are too lazy to grind.

Theres my 2 cents


you deserve 3c change :P

1. Does anyone really find it fun to kill players 20 lvls lower? 5-10 lvl gap on attack would be fine

2. Nope, but 4 lvl 20's != lvl 80 ...

3. You started thieving at lvl 32 ... WITH TWO LVL 60 + HELPERS ???????
gg retard, what did you do in this group? pick up a bit of loot with protection? Nothing pisses me off more in this game than low lvl jobbers with high lvl protection. Why? because it means all jobbers are high level, essentially.


You know what's farking boring? the triangular system.
Fun: Trading with one star and knowing you could get popped (old sys)
Boring: Trading one star knowing you can't get popped (new sys)

Fun: Trading knowing you might have a fight on ur hands (doesn't exist till lvl 80)
Boring: Sitting on a cammel while highlevels do all the killing (any trades 40 +)



Same goes for low leveled traders with high leveled hunters. Aren't I right? :roll:


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man, southkorea pussy boy, we're telling u what sro's about, take it in and stfu.


you are the ftw =p hahaha

and besides. yes jobbing is considered unfair at times because of level differeance.
but the fact is.. if u meet somebody around ur level..
just fight them. and ask if the other people might not come in.

and southkorea. stfu im not a turk. but at least no im not korean like you.
dont talk shit when u cant do shit. really. i told u to stfu because like somebody had posted be4. everytime u went on u praticaly posted a new topic and such. and yeah.. all u can say is really "ur a turk get out and smiles" (im not trying to offend any other koreans. just this retard who makes ur country look bad)

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What I find interesting is that although he has a very valid point, everyone seems to just want to shoot him down.


Wait he had a valid point? Was it the ever popular captain obvious quote that "higher lvls can kill lower lvls" or was it that god awfull idea that jobbed players should only be able to attack their own lvl. If he thinks the trade system is farked now. He hasn't seen anything till they implement his system. Then he will be whining that he can't job because he can't find ppl his lvl.

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I'll admit, I'm a level 30 thief on thief level 2. But admittedly, you really can't do much. The only reason I managed to level up to level 2 was the pre-Europe trade conflict where you had a much greater chance of picking up stuff. Now, with the Europe "update" I haven't managed to thief successfully at all, even though I've spent 4-5hrs on it (although a female Europe thief who happened to be in my party and have never thieved before has successfully thieved a lot. Obviously, because some high level male player is "engrossed" by the female Europe thief suits).


Eh nope. Most of the guys I rob never see my rogues female thief suit. They very rarely know what hit them. They just lay there on the ground watching their goods magically disappear in to thin air. BTW I do this with lvl 80 sun hunters around and my rogue is just over 50. If you are a chinese thief and solo yep you are pretty well screwed. So my suggestion is find a 30+ rogue or wiz thief who knows how to play their char. You will find great sucess.

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agreed 100%

its absolutely useless i tried trading before and got bored in the 1st day, hunting is always screwed because high lvl thieves always get you and thieving the same for hunting but with high lvl hunters

it just makes it not fun to do and puts you off

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dude.. you whine about the triangular conflict and when people showed their opinions, you wont accept it. so stop playing SRO and stop making a disgrace to Alps player. enough said. :)

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Here we go again. Another person who has failed to see the point of an MMO.

I will put a few simple questions to you.

1. If you have spent a year grinding to lvl 80, would you like it if you could only kill people your lvl and not have the ability to fight anyone else after such hard work?

2. Do you think that you are forced to trade by yourself, or hunter by yourself? or theif by yourself?

Plain and simply this is an MMO. It supports team work and communication. Thats what all MMO's do. I started thieving at lvl 32. I had 2 lvl 60 thieves helping me out. Because of this i was able to thief successfully, even popping lvl 20 traders. But i was only able to do these due to team work.

By taking advantage of all your resources, you will be able to efficiently make the best of your time and effort.

Also if someone has grinded to lvl 80, they should have the right to kill a low lvl trader. Why would anyone grind for so long if they couldn't even have some fun at the end of it? Low lvls shouldn't be invincible just because they are too lazy to grind.

Theres my 2 cents


you deserve 3c change :P

1. Does anyone really find it fun to kill players 20 lvls lower? 5-10 lvl gap on attack would be fine

2. Nope, but 4 lvl 20's != lvl 80 ...

3. You started thieving at lvl 32 ... WITH TWO LVL 60 + HELPERS ???????
gg retard, what did you do in this group? pick up a bit of loot with protection? Nothing pisses me off more in this game than low lvl jobbers with high lvl protection. Why? because it means all jobbers are high level, essentially.


You know what's farking boring? the triangular system.
Fun: Trading with one star and knowing you could get popped (old sys)
Boring: Trading one star knowing you can't get popped (new sys)

Fun: Trading knowing you might have a fight on ur hands (doesn't exist till lvl 80)
Boring: Sitting on a cammel while highlevels do all the killing (any trades 40 +)


In fact i was contributing to the team. Due to my high draw distance, my keen ability to notice things, etc, i was seeing 2 if not 3 times the traders that my thieving counterparts were. The more people we had, the easier it was to hunt down traders, no matter what lvl. Remember my lvl 32 npc thieves could still freeze a 60 ox :roll:

Once they popped a trader, we would split the good 3 ways. It was my 1st time ever thieving and they were simply showing me what it was like. It had nothing to do with profit, it was simply to have a bit of fun. Now i fail to see why that deserves the insult of "retard".


And yes i do find it fun to kill low lvl people. Sitting on vent, or ts, thieving together screaming out "noob down" when ever i kill a low lvl player, it gives me a power rush. So yes it is fun.


So you marked traders till the highlvls got there, doesn't really sound like alot of fun to me. why bother with a thief suit? oh ye, just to pick up loot. So basically you picked up a bit of loot with highlvl protection.

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And yes i do find it fun to kill low lvl people. Sitting on vent, or ts, thieving together screaming out "noob down" when ever i kill a low lvl player, it gives me a power rush. So yes it is fun.


lol that's just pathetic, i feel bad for you

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[quote=but the fact is.. if u meet somebody around ur level..
just fight them. and ask if the other people might not come in.[/quote]

I can understand that your hatred of me stems from my unpopular posts. That, however, gives you no right to say that I cant make valid posting. Ive made bad and good threads equally. And youre such a naive twat. Do you really think that people would listen to your pleas to not kill them? It would make it more enjoyable for the higher lvl to have a begging whimp at their mercy. Unfortunately, your comebacks are full of nothing but nonsense and personal hate remarks. Cool down and get a life.

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dude.. you whine about the triangular conflict and when people showed their opinions, you wont accept it. so stop playing SRO and stop making a disgrace to Alps player. enough said. :)


Im not whining. Im giving my opinion of the tri-conflict. And Ive never shoved off anyone else's opinions either. Honestly, there are actually very few opinions anyway.

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