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 Post subject: Lv80 Euro PvP Video, Vapore
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:48 am 
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Me n Vapore recorded some footage a week ago... taken me a while to be able to get the movie uploaded/remotely editted etc. coz' school has been kinda hectic for me. >_<

Keep the YooSux flames to a minimum, and the complaints about lack of effects because i havn't had time and don't wanna' hear it =].

Enjoi pwease... :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8e1uk_X6Y

-More + Better movies to come :love:


EDIT* I realised that the 2nd song was not actually Sum 41 , and is actually "The Kill - 30 Seconds to Mars"... sorry bout that =o!


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nice vid =)


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in some fights valtiel had cleric buffs... what if his opponets also had cleric buffs hm lets say like holy spell :>? (rhetorical question i already know the answer)

not bad at all but i still prefer rogue :>

oh well 2 more lvls and i can match him with my new ultimate technique :>

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in some fights valtiel? had cleric buffs... what if his opponets also had cleric buffs hm lets say like holy spell :>? (rhetorical question i already know the answer)

not bad at all but i still prefer rogue :>

oh well 2 more lvls and i can match him with my new ultimate technique :>


What's wrong with that? The Chinese characters had chinese buffs so euro having euro I don't see a problem. Chinese needs buffs from diff mastery to survive while euros need buffs from other classes to survive.

Eh, nvm I see the chinese had cleric buffs on >.> seem to not have made a diff.


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it would make a big difffrence o0
if chinese had holy spell buff they wouldnt get most of the statuses from warlock = vapore would have low dmg not enough to kill them...

power of 1h swords comes from dmg boost from status!
when u have dull status 1h sw hits u 2xmore if u have bleed status he hit u 1.5 times more (dono if im correct abut bleed) if u have division status he hit u 2x more)
thats how 1h wins the pvp but if u cant cast those statuses (when opponet is buffed wth holly spell) 1h becomin worthless...

lol and wats the point of showin pvp when u r buffed by other chars?

i can get all euro buffs and i will be unkillable...

i thought he will show us pvp on his own buffs vs most deadly opponets :/

oh well waiting on another movie...

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The chinese opponents had cleric buffs. Ask them if you'd like...

EDIT* except Holy Word - which was to prevent annoying people in cape fights doing non-stop ice nova. Which get's incredibly annoying.


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nc vid...you just put where you can killed.. :D

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nc vid...you just put where you can killed.. :D


Thanks. The fights were all fair fights... and the opponents were not weak if that was the implication o.O


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Nice vid.


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yeah its true, as much as i wouldve liked to see the 1h sword pwning people alone, the holy word spell on you kinda kills it lol.
think youve got force diety and other shit on you too from your friend the cleric.

player vs player[s] ?

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Nice video, i fought Vapore while jobbing a few weeks back. I eventually killed him when i got close to him, but on the evidence of that video it might be a different scenario now!

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The chinese opponents had cleric buffs. Ask them if you'd like...


Also look at the people i have selected... you can see they have int + str just as Vapore does. The only added thing is Holy Word because of the annoying people who find it fun to ice nova non-stop just because euro's are not immune. Holy word has no damage effect - it is only protecting Vapore from a burn status... 200dmg every like 5seconds which is barely anything and would make negligible difference.


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but Holyword stops status effects like Dull/Bleed/Division does it not?

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Nice video, i fought Vapore while jobbing a few weeks back. I eventually killed him when i got close to him, but on the evidence of that video it might be a different scenario now!


Was Vapore warlock then? o.O and he definatly wasn't 80 seeing as that video was made about 24hours after levelling to 80. And lv80 gives a new chain to warriors which is very! strong.

Jobbing is often very different as a warrior also, particularly in groups. As there is not often a chance to do de-buffs, depending on the opponents. In that case the warrior is a good support class imo... gives some amazing buffs to friendly hunters/thiefs making them invincible.

If you don't mind me asking , what's your ign :) ?

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but Holyword stops status effects like Dull/Bleed/Division does it not?


Depending on the level yes. However, I debate the impact they would have held against Vapore given the situation of those fights... being fast 1-1 fights.

Next vid i'll be sure not to give Holy Word lol >_<


As a completely off topic point, it is quite annoying being a cleric and making all those hard levels to gain new buffs. And every time i buff a friend or another person, anyone that comes into contact with that person then yelps how cleric bfufs are unfair. Given - in that situation cleric buffs for one person it would be unfair, but int + str were given to both opponents, the only cleric buff Vapore had an advantage on was Holy Word.


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What's wrong with holy spell? He just get immune with it..nothing wrong about that. Chinese chars = chinese buffs. Euro chars = euro buffs. What's wrong with it? Part of the game guys..blame joymax o.o


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StacE wrote:
If you don't mind me asking, what's your ign?

'burkytaggins'

I spoke to V before euro update when he was on his blader, a very nice guy, lives not all that from me really. And yeah i knew he wasnt 80 when i fought him, but neither was i. Its a shame he is hunter, would be an awesome asset as a theif with me and my buddys :P

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Oh ffs you little kids.

Euro is not meant for 1 vs 1. Euro = Team player, if you expect to 1 vs 1 a euro without some kind of outside buff your either lucky or stupid.

Telling a euro hes not allowed other euro buffs is absurd. Might as well tell the Chinese to take off all his jewelry.

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oh geez, i wonder what woudl of happened if euro had no pot delay :roll:


and to think euro's are not even meant for 1v1's :shock:

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By the way just to clear things up, when I was fighting someone, if I had buffs, the opponent also got buffs, so what you saw was all fair fights, all of them Lv 80.

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Oh ffs you little kids.

Euro is not meant for 1 vs 1. Euro = Team player, if you expect to 1 vs 1 a euro without some kind of outside buff your either lucky or stupid.

Telling a euro hes not allowed other euro buffs is absurd. Might as well tell the Chinese to take off all his jewelry.


i think theres a valid reason for both sides, what does piss me off tho is when a chinese comes down and pvp's with euro buffs, then its almost like 2 vs 1. but you are right for the euro pvp'ee.

Hey V, hope you are well :)

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MMk,

We were doin' some fun PvP and Link117 came by.. so Vapore decided to PvP him. For people who don't know, Link117 is Sun+7 Spear and +6/7 Garment set (with full blues i would suspect...). He's a hybrid build of some description, i dno what x) But he is strong, and very respected as a strong player on Athens.

Neways, Vapore and Link had a few fights... Link ran at Vapore before vap could debuff/stun the first time killing him before he could even respond basically x) , wasn't a 'fair' fight imo.

The second time, Vapore initiated the fight with Link and after debuffs were placed - a couple chains released... Link fell leaving the scores at 1-1. They fought again, and this time the fight lasted quite a long time with Vap needing to debuff twice because Link tanked the first round... and eventually vapore won 2-1.

Whilst the fight wasn't really an organised thing, they were started and fought fairly... however Vapore did have my cleric buffs. Link is wihtout doubt one of the best PvP'ers on the server and im just postin' this as a bit of evidence as to the builds power.

This is just a screen of the last fight's death
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Link is yet another really nice player on Athens, shame he went trader, we used to have a barrel of fun job warring at DW gate :P

I must find V and pvp him in a week or two when ive sorted my skills out!

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not bad video, pity thats its not stage6 :/

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Awesome, it's nice to see the two stuns in action. Nice character


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StacE wrote:
MMk,

We were doin' some fun PvP and Link117 came by.. so Vapore decided to PvP him. For people who don't know, Link117 is Sun+7 Spear and +6/7 Garment set (with full blues i would suspect...). He's a hybrid build of some description, i dno what x) But he is strong, and very respected as a strong player on Athens.

Neways, Vapore and Link had a few fights... Link ran at Vapore before vap could debuff/stun the first time killing him before he could even respond basically x) , wasn't a 'fair' fight imo.

The second time, Vapore initiated the fight with Link and after debuffs were placed - a couple chains released... Link fell leaving the scores at 1-1. They fought again, and this time the fight lasted quite a long time with Vap needing to debuff twice because Link tanked the first round... and eventually vapore won 2-1.

Whilst the fight wasn't really an organised thing, they were started and fought fairly... however Vapore did have my cleric buffs. Link is wihtout doubt one of the best PvP'ers on the server and im just postin' this as a bit of evidence as to the builds power.

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wait? so on a fair fight the euro should get buffed by a cleric and be allowed to debuff before the chinese attack?


lol? :roll:

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MMk,

We were doin' some fun PvP and Link117 came by.. so Vapore decided to PvP him. For people who don't know, Link117 is Sun+7 Spear and +6/7 Garment set (with full blues i would suspect...). He's a hybrid build of some description, i dno what x) But he is strong, and very respected as a strong player on Athens.

Neways, Vapore and Link had a few fights... Link ran at Vapore before vap could debuff/stun the first time killing him before he could even respond basically x) , wasn't a 'fair' fight imo.

The second time, Vapore initiated the fight with Link and after debuffs were placed - a couple chains released... Link fell leaving the scores at 1-1. They fought again, and this time the fight lasted quite a long time with Vap needing to debuff twice because Link tanked the first round... and eventually vapore won 2-1.

Whilst the fight wasn't really an organised thing, they were started and fought fairly... however Vapore did have my cleric buffs. Link is wihtout doubt one of the best PvP'ers on the server and im just postin' this as a bit of evidence as to the builds power.

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wait? so on a fair fight the euro should get buffed by a cleric and be allowed to debuff before the chinese attack?


lol? :roll:


That picture was just recently and we were merely just messing around. And no in a fair fight a person will do all they can to stop me from debuffing them, and if I'm buffed, so is the person im fighting.

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LINK!!!! :love: ^^

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VforVendetta wrote:
Fat_Smurf wrote:
StacE wrote:
MMk,

We were doin' some fun PvP and Link117 came by.. so Vapore decided to PvP him. For people who don't know, Link117 is Sun+7 Spear and +6/7 Garment set (with full blues i would suspect...). He's a hybrid build of some description, i dno what x) But he is strong, and very respected as a strong player on Athens.

Neways, Vapore and Link had a few fights... Link ran at Vapore before vap could debuff/stun the first time killing him before he could even respond basically x) , wasn't a 'fair' fight imo.

The second time, Vapore initiated the fight with Link and after debuffs were placed - a couple chains released... Link fell leaving the scores at 1-1. They fought again, and this time the fight lasted quite a long time with Vap needing to debuff twice because Link tanked the first round... and eventually vapore won 2-1.

Whilst the fight wasn't really an organised thing, they were started and fought fairly... however Vapore did have my cleric buffs. Link is wihtout doubt one of the best PvP'ers on the server and im just postin' this as a bit of evidence as to the builds power.

This is just a screen of the last fight's death
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wait? so on a fair fight the euro should get buffed by a cleric and be allowed to debuff before the chinese attack?


lol? :roll:


That picture was just recently and we were merely just messing around. And no in a fair fight a person will do all they can to stop me from debuffing them, and if I'm buffed, so is the person im fighting.


k cause stace make it sound like it was unfair to Link in the first fight :P

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Awesome vid imo. The warrior/warlock is an amazing build but it has a weakness in mass PvP or against xxxx/cleric builds because those debuffs will not land.


For those who have not realized it yet, the cleric had 2 sets of buffs going, therefore the opponent also had his buffs, since you cannot buff yourself. I would suggest not using holy word or recovery division thought. I would also suggest cycling through both PvPers before the start to make sure people see that you are not buffing them any differently.


I hope to see more of those, it was sweet. Now sharpen those editing skills and do zoom ins on the crits and final shots.

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well....thank god its not another euro hit and run into safezone video.

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