you dont have to farm

akuji^ · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 109 **Location:**

tedtwilliger wrote:

Buy a sp ticket, problem solved.

Also any build without light will get owned so hard in pvp. No phantom + no moving speed = sitting duck. Have fun trying to kill someone when they teleport away from you and kill you from a far.

thats like saying that you just need the light tree for speed buff lol. Thats a waste, buy a speed scroll. Chinese cant keep up with european anyway ^^ they are faster

Love · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 5336 **Location:**

no offense but what part of this is only to get to 80 dont you get is like duh lol

once you are 80 you get w/e you want again this is to get to 80 fast no an end build wish is what i think you guys tho

1 ------ > 80 80

2 mastery you can have ice fire spear sword ress bs
thing w/e floats your boat

peace and love :love:

moenchone · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:26 pm

Farming SP is a waste of time

Well, you are lvl 80 and have three lvl 80 masteries and one lvl 60 mastery, but you'll start crying when 9dg comes -> 3x lvl 90 mastery, 1x lvl 30 mastery ( :!:

)

10dg -> 3x lvl 100 mastery

You have to delevel one tree (maybe a lvl 80 one?)...

Have fun farming cursed hearts

Str:
Glavie/Fire or Lightning (more dmg or speed, whatever you want)
Blade/Fire, Ice or Force (more dmg, freezing the enemy or weaken him with the vital spot skills)
Bow/Ice or Lightning (old stuff or a fast bowman)

Int:
Fire and Lightning/Ice and Force (dmg + speed or frosty attacks and vital spot)

The same for euros.

You don't need swordskills if you're a nuker.
You don't need ice if you're a glavier.
You don't need everything, you know?

tedtwilliger · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:35 pm

akuji^ wrote:

tedtwilliger wrote:

Buy a sp ticket, problem solved.

Also any build without light will get owned so hard in pvp. No phantom + no moving speed = sitting duck. Have fun trying to kill someone when they teleport away from you and kill you from a far.

thats like saying that you just need the light tree for speed buff lol. Thats a waste, buy a speed scroll. Chinese cant keep up with european anyway ^^ they are faster

Practically, yes you do. Sure concentration buffs and the passive help in pvp, but phantom is an essential part of the game, it has so many features that cant be lived without.

And love, i know what your saying, i wasn't making reference to what you said, but rather the after discussion about pvping without light. Personally i ain't a fan of your idea. The idea works well, its a nice idea, i just like to have the feeling of being the best i can at all times.

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

akuji^ wrote:

tedtwilliger wrote:

Buy a sp ticket, problem solved.

Also any build without light will get owned so hard in pvp. No phantom + no moving speed = sitting duck. Have fun trying to kill someone when they teleport away from you and kill you from a far.

thats like saying that you just need the light tree for speed buff lol. Thats a waste, buy a speed scroll. Chinese cant keep up with european anyway ^^ they are faster

Are you trolling? Lightning does nothing for str's? You gotta be joking. To prove my point, here's a true story. I was a lvl 55 blader out thiefing and a badly farmed lvl 70 came out. My grasswalk was higher than his, I literally just ran circles around him taunting him cuz he couldnt catch me. It was pretty Farking funny. Speed scrolls are limited, the drug of typhoon stuff is ridiculously expensive. If you're over lvl 50 and ever been in a group pvp, Ill be really surprised.

akuji^ · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 109 **Location:**

I am over 50 for sure, you dont need to worry about that.

But I aint scared and I aint running arround and running away from enemys, if I gonna PvP I want some action.

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

if u like standing around and smashing keys, all the power to u.

a fast grasswalk and long phantom gives u more advantage than if you sacrifice that for something else.

moenchone · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:34 am

TOloseGT wrote:

if u like standing around and smashing keys, all the power to u.

a fast grasswalk and long phantom gives u more advantage than if you sacrifice that for something else.

Yeah, great advantage :roll:

You are not the only one with that skill, dude.

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

as oppposed to a sitting duck wit a couple xtra mdef, pdef, fire shield? right.

moenchone · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:41 am

TOloseGT wrote:

as oppposed to a sitting duck wit a couple xtra mdef, pdef, fire shield? right.

See it from the other side: If you ran around using phantomwalk every two seconds then you can't deal that much damage to someone who sits there like a duck but has some extra defence

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

that xtra def is nullified when u get gang raped. at least with maxed phantom/grasswalk, u have a chance of survival.

moenchone · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:49 am

TOloseGT wrote:

that xtra def is nullified when u get gang raped. at least with maxed phantom/grasswalk, u have a chance of survival.

Great chance, because you are still the only one with that skill

tedtwilliger · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:51 am

moenchone wrote:

TOloseGT wrote:

that xtra def is nullified when u get gang raped. at least with maxed phantom/grasswalk, u have a chance of survival.

Great chance, because you are still the only one with that skill

You sir dont pvp much

Sure they have the skill, but you use it 1st which gives you probably a second or 2 for them to react and use the skill as well. Now if they are lagging when trying to use it, which a lot of people do, you gain a few more seconds, which is enough to pot back some hp or fire off some nukes etc.

Also remember not all euro classes have a teleportation move either.

WhereIsOsama · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 305

akuji^ wrote:

4chan wrote:

No... just no.

Two masteries? For the full way? I don't think so...

Remember you need buffs, big time. And going without buffs are suicide... this is a very stupid idea.

Leveling with a 9 gap takes a very long time, but you still get good Sp.

Farming at 16 ensures you a full ride to 80 if you farmed well.

And any other farming is good too.

But not with just two masteries... why not just jump in front of Yarkan and kill yourself?

In the end joymax planned 2 masteries for a char. 150 cap and mastery lvl 300, so pls dont tell him it is stupid because 2 masteries is the way it supposed to be in the end.

For example:
Glavie + fire can do pretty good against lord yarkan and I bet he can do some decent pvp. The only really good thing about having light as an extra is the speed buff.

But yeah you guys want to have 3 masteries and in the end you all gonna delevel a lot

+76213567

I'm a 2 mastery build ... and I have yet to be beaten by anyone my lvl ......

and for those going for 3 masteries at 100 cap ( w/e year that comes ) .. i feel sorry for you all when your imbue will cost you around 60k sp

but that is just my opinion ..... good luck sp farming guys ..

:twisted:

Love · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 5336 **Location:**

did i mention we all need to farm at one point or another i just rather do it at 80 when i can kill at least 50% of the people on server woot

imp3r10 · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 571 **Location:**

akuji^ wrote:

It does add some advantages, but nothing major like lighting does the int characters. Just like fire doesn't add any major advantages to an int char.

Pure int SS with Light and protector set will not miss fire, the only thing fire adds are a few nukes but we all know the lighting nukes are stronger( not sure).

Offcourse I also gave my pure str glaive the lighting tree, because it farms a lot better with the speed buff on.

But if you really are planning on playing till the higher lvl caps, it will save you a lot of time and money if you are planning you character to have 2 trees from the beginning. I wonder if people really are going to get all there 3 masteries up to 90 when the cap raises.

Offcourse I know you will be better with 3 masteries ^^ I am not stupid, but I am just saying that in some cases 2 masteries can stand against good PvP.

Character with 2 masteries with good gear and weapon owns a character with 3 masteries with average gear and avarage weapon. In babel you will always lose job wear if you dont have som, sun or 72+7 or something because there are so many people with leet weapons. So you see gear is more important than that 1 extra tree.

oh yeah
totally agree with you

fire only adds phy damage increase which they are alcking, strongest imbue of all 3, fire protection, oh and i almost forget: the strongest nukes in the game, which is only reason they became nuker. but other than that, fire is pretty much useless

if your not getting my sarcasm your retarded

WTF is with you contradicting yourself,

"we all know.....(not sure)" make up your mind, and no, light nukes are not stronger than fire

egyptology · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 388 **Location:**

imp3r10 wrote:

akuji^ wrote:

It does add some advantages, but nothing major like lighting does the int characters. Just like fire doesn't add any major advantages to an int char.

Pure int SS with Light and protector set will not miss fire, the only thing fire adds are a few nukes but we all know the lighting nukes are stronger( not sure).

Offcourse I also gave my pure str glaive the lighting tree, because it farms a lot better with the speed buff on.

But if you really are planning on playing till the higher lvl caps, it will save you a lot of time and money if you are planning you character to have 2 trees from the beginning. I wonder if people really are going to get all there 3 masteries up to 90 when the cap raises.

Offcourse I know you will be better with 3 masteries ^^ I am not stupid, but I am just saying that in some cases 2 masteries can stand against good PvP.

Character with 2 masteries with good gear and weapon owns a character with 3 masteries with average gear and avarage weapon. In babel you will always lose job wear if you dont have som, sun or 72+7 or something because there are so many people with leet weapons. So you see gear is more important than that 1 extra tree.

oh yeah
totally agree with you

fire only adds phy damage increase which they are alcking, strongest imbue of all 3, fire protection, oh and i almost forget: the strongest nukes in the game, which is only reason they became nuker. but other than that, fire is pretty much useless

if your not getting my sarcasm your retarded

WTF is with you contradicting yourself,

"we all know.....(not sure)" make up your mind, and no, light nukes are not stronger than fire

At 80, horse's thunderbolt is the strongest nuke. In second is the 3rd fire nuke. Lightning is the strongest. For nukers, lightning imbue would do more damage than fire imbue. Vice versa for str chars. If you don't agree with the lightning imbue deal, ask suicidegrl.

As for me...I'm trying to delevel fire now and go pure int lightning/ice/spear (80s) and s/s 60.

WhereIsOsama · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 305

egyptology wrote:

imp3r10 wrote:

akuji^ wrote:

It does add some advantages, but nothing major like lighting does the int characters. Just like fire doesn't add any major advantages to an int char.

Pure int SS with Light and protector set will not miss fire, the only thing fire adds are a few nukes but we all know the lighting nukes are stronger( not sure).

Offcourse I also gave my pure str glaive the lighting tree, because it farms a lot better with the speed buff on.

But if you really are planning on playing till the higher lvl caps, it will save you a lot of time and money if you are planning you character to have 2 trees from the beginning. I wonder if people really are going to get all there 3 masteries up to 90 when the cap raises.

Offcourse I know you will be better with 3 masteries ^^ I am not stupid, but I am just saying that in some cases 2 masteries can stand against good PvP.

Character with 2 masteries with good gear and weapon owns a character with 3 masteries with average gear and avarage weapon. In babel you will always lose job wear if you dont have som, sun or 72+7 or something because there are so many people with leet weapons. So you see gear is more important than that 1 extra tree.

oh yeah
totally agree with you

fire only adds phy damage increase which they are alcking, strongest imbue of all 3, fire protection, oh and i almost forget: the strongest nukes in the game, which is only reason they became nuker. but other than that, fire is pretty much useless

if your not getting my sarcasm your retarded

WTF is with you contradicting yourself,

"we all know.....(not sure)" make up your mind, and no, light nukes are not stronger than fire

At 80, horse's thunderbolt is the strongest nuke. In second is the 3rd fire nuke. Lightning is the strongest. For nukers, lightning imbue would do more damage than fire imbue. Vice versa for str chars. If you don't agree with the lightning imbue deal, ask suicidegrl.

As for me...I'm trying to delevel fire now and go pure int lightning/ice/spear (80s) and s/s 60.

you are correct ..... light nukes are the strongest ... and they get stronger in later caps....

and personally .... instead of wasting sp on that s/s 60 ...... save teh sp for later .. because sp gets super crazy 80-90 ..... then the 9X imbue costs abotu 60k sp ... lol so save your sp

UniQ · **Posted:** Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:03 am

Rubennz wrote:

theres another way to not have to farm, just all the way to 80 with 9 gap...
thats the solution, although you don't level very fast

or are you still in sp probz then?

[dun flame meh :wink:

)

1-80 with gap 9 = 3m+ sp XD....ehm...no...i dont think youll have sp probz...

MooMooMoo · **Posted:** Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:06 am

borat2 wrote:

are you by any chance desolator144 ?

EXACTLY what i was thinking.

From

http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... howforum=5

Love · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 5336 **Location:**

no i am love lol o.O this is the only name i use to post

GaMeOvEr · **Posted:** Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:26 am

u know what really sux in farming?..u spend money on sp tickets..spend time..spend money for electricity to run your comp..tempts you not to study for school..etc..

at the end of the day u get fully farmed but gona get owned by full sosun botters..yeap thats it :roll:

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imp3r10 · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 571 **Location:**

WhereIsOsama wrote:

egyptology wrote:

imp3r10 wrote:

akuji^ wrote:

It does add some advantages, but nothing major like lighting does the int characters. Just like fire doesn't add any major advantages to an int char.

Pure int SS with Light and protector set will not miss fire, the only thing fire adds are a few nukes but we all know the lighting nukes are stronger( not sure).

Offcourse I also gave my pure str glaive the lighting tree, because it farms a lot better with the speed buff on.

But if you really are planning on playing till the higher lvl caps, it will save you a lot of time and money if you are planning you character to have 2 trees from the beginning. I wonder if people really are going to get all there 3 masteries up to 90 when the cap raises.

Offcourse I know you will be better with 3 masteries ^^ I am not stupid, but I am just saying that in some cases 2 masteries can stand against good PvP.

Character with 2 masteries with good gear and weapon owns a character with 3 masteries with average gear and avarage weapon. In babel you will always lose job wear if you dont have som, sun or 72+7 or something because there are so many people with leet weapons. So you see gear is more important than that 1 extra tree.

oh yeah
totally agree with you

fire only adds phy damage increase which they are alcking, strongest imbue of all 3, fire protection, oh and i almost forget: the strongest nukes in the game, which is only reason they became nuker. but other than that, fire is pretty much useless

if your not getting my sarcasm your retarded

WTF is with you contradicting yourself,

"we all know.....(not sure)" make up your mind, and no, light nukes are not stronger than fire

At 80, horse's thunderbolt is the strongest nuke. In second is the 3rd fire nuke. Lightning is the strongest. For nukers, lightning imbue would do more damage than fire imbue. Vice versa for str chars. If you don't agree with the lightning imbue deal, ask suicidegrl.

As for me...I'm trying to delevel fire now and go pure int lightning/ice/spear (80s) and s/s 60.

you are correct ..... light nukes are the strongest ... and they get stronger in later caps....

and personally .... instead of wasting sp on that s/s 60 ...... save teh sp for later .. because sp gets super crazy 80-90 ..... then the 9X imbue costs abotu 60k sp ... lol so save your sp

actually hte 4rd fire nuke is hte strongest in the game, at 80 the % goes to 315, which is higher than the 3rd light one. My GM is fully farmed at 80 so i know he knows what hes talking about

Stephanus · **Posted:** Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:30 am

MonstaH wrote:

borat2 wrote:

are you by any chance desolator144 ?

Best post so far ... LOL

Hm.... actually, with the über sp thingy Mr. Desolator had right..

Just look at the powrfarming topics.
He might be a dickwhad, but he had right about sp farming in share pt.
:oops:

borat2 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:04 pm

Stephanus wrote:

MonstaH wrote:

borat2 wrote:

are you by any chance desolator144 ?

Best post so far ... LOL

Hm.... actually, with the über sp thingy Mr. Desolator had right..

Just look at the powrfarming topics.
He might be a dickwhad, but he had right about sp farming in share pt.
:oops:

He never said it was in share he did not even have a party to be more precise he claimed it was faster without even having a party, yes farming in share it is fastest sp farming you can do but that has nothing to do with what Mr. Desolator was claiming to be right, in fact his whole claim where before this new exp share party system.
He claimed its better to solo sp farm mobs 11 levels higher than you. Till i showed him how Lag sp farmed at level 16 i believe we came to the conclusion Desolator was simply mistaken.

Farming and grinding is faster in a share party, if its a well organised well picked party (the right builds for example can make a big difference)

larroxx · **Posted:** Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:09 pm

lol i have lvl 50 archer and i just cnat get enough SP for buffs and all stuff i need even i have 5 gaps i aint getting enough SP pff its suks

ln · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 374 **Location:**

uber pwnzer > plenty of sp needed.

2 masteries > a lot lesser sp needed.

dun have to fight or quarrel over this.

imp3r10 · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 571 **Location:**

egyptology wrote:

imp3r10 wrote:

akuji^ wrote:

It does add some advantages, but nothing major like lighting does the int characters. Just like fire doesn't add any major advantages to an int char.

Pure int SS with Light and protector set will not miss fire, the only thing fire adds are a few nukes but we all know the lighting nukes are stronger( not sure).

Offcourse I also gave my pure str glaive the lighting tree, because it farms a lot better with the speed buff on.

But if you really are planning on playing till the higher lvl caps, it will save you a lot of time and money if you are planning you character to have 2 trees from the beginning. I wonder if people really are going to get all there 3 masteries up to 90 when the cap raises.

Offcourse I know you will be better with 3 masteries ^^ I am not stupid, but I am just saying that in some cases 2 masteries can stand against good PvP.

Character with 2 masteries with good gear and weapon owns a character with 3 masteries with average gear and avarage weapon. In babel you will always lose job wear if you dont have som, sun or 72+7 or something because there are so many people with leet weapons. So you see gear is more important than that 1 extra tree.

oh yeah
totally agree with you

fire only adds phy damage increase which they are alcking, strongest imbue of all 3, fire protection, oh and i almost forget: the strongest nukes in the game, which is only reason they became nuker. but other than that, fire is pretty much useless

if your not getting my sarcasm your retarded

WTF is with you contradicting yourself,

"we all know.....(not sure)" make up your mind, and no, light nukes are not stronger than fire

At 80, horse's thunderbolt is the strongest nuke. In second is the 3rd fire nuke. Lightning is the strongest. For nukers, lightning imbue would do more damage than fire imbue. Vice versa for str chars. If you don't agree with the lightning imbue deal, ask suicidegrl.

As for me...I'm trying to delevel fire now and go pure int lightning/ice/spear (80s) and s/s 60.

fire imbue is strongest for any builds

Dev1Lz · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 143 **Location:** AFK

I never sp FARM, 3GAP FTW ! :roll:

egyptology · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 388 **Location:**

imp3r10 wrote:

egyptology wrote:

imp3r10 wrote:

akuji^ wrote:

It does add some advantages, but nothing major like lighting does the int characters. Just like fire doesn't add any major advantages to an int char.

Pure int SS with Light and protector set will not miss fire, the only thing fire adds are a few nukes but we all know the lighting nukes are stronger( not sure).

Offcourse I also gave my pure str glaive the lighting tree, because it farms a lot better with the speed buff on.

But if you really are planning on playing till the higher lvl caps, it will save you a lot of time and money if you are planning you character to have 2 trees from the beginning. I wonder if people really are going to get all there 3 masteries up to 90 when the cap raises.

Offcourse I know you will be better with 3 masteries ^^ I am not stupid, but I am just saying that in some cases 2 masteries can stand against good PvP.

Character with 2 masteries with good gear and weapon owns a character with 3 masteries with average gear and avarage weapon. In babel you will always lose job wear if you dont have som, sun or 72+7 or something because there are so many people with leet weapons. So you see gear is more important than that 1 extra tree.

oh yeah
totally agree with you

fire only adds phy damage increase which they are alcking, strongest imbue of all 3, fire protection, oh and i almost forget: the strongest nukes in the game, which is only reason they became nuker. but other than that, fire is pretty much useless

if your not getting my sarcasm your retarded

WTF is with you contradicting yourself,

"we all know.....(not sure)" make up your mind, and no, light nukes are not stronger than fire

At 80, horse's thunderbolt is the strongest nuke. In second is the 3rd fire nuke. Lightning is the strongest. For nukers, lightning imbue would do more damage than fire imbue. Vice versa for str chars. If you don't agree with the lightning imbue deal, ask suicidegrl.

As for me...I'm trying to delevel fire now and go pure int lightning/ice/spear (80s) and s/s 60.

fire imbue is strongest for any builds

Not for int based. Try it out before speaking. Refer to old posts (SuicideGrl and Billion [Oasis] wrote about this fact). For nukes, light imbue is the strongest. Since STR chars don't have much magical damage, they need just shear damage which is fire...

Since almost all builds have both fire and light, try it...

I also beleive the light nuke (horse) is the strongest. I think It goes up to 330% but I could be wrong (for horse's lightning). Furthermore, people who max out lightning also get the 17% magical damage increase buff instead of 16%...which further augments damage.

The lightning nuke though has a wider range, so it can go muc higher than the fire nuke or much lower...

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