Why garment? (Explanation/Info)

juntakashi · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751

Eliee wrote:

Well i'm a 33 pure str blader. And i goes for armor cuse of the high phy def. As i only (only have 1 mag attack, i hope u know wich.) use phy attack i dont need garment. I can kill monster with max 4 level above me. Lets say i always killing monster at least 1 level above my level.
What im trying to say, if you were garment u'll have to kill mob in same lv as you or lower. but you will kill the mobs faster then strs.
If you are armor/str you'll uble to kill monsters wich is higher level than you. you will kill them slower(hunt slower w/e) but in my optional i think i better kill slower but higher monster then kill mobs fast and get 0.01% each.

lol wtf are u talking here?

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use phy attack i dont need garment

wat makes u think that? by phy attck u mean weapon skill (which NEEDS mp) or juz normal attacks (ROFL if u do that)...if u mean weap skill then garm has 20% mp reduction and 20% movespeed bonus

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if you were garment u'll have to kill mob in same lv as you or lower

no, u can kill mobs 2 lvl above u as well...i'm on yeti when i am 56 wif 56+3 blade/shield and juz some +1 +2 garm set and i can grind well

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but you will kill the mobs faster then strs

wat u talking? u are hybrid blader or wat?

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i think i better kill slower but higher monster then kill mobs fast and get 0.01% each.

now wats that to do wif garm vs prot vs armour?

i'm totally confused wat u are talking

nimezhenhao · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 135

high reinforcment on weapons = you hit most time more
high reinforcment on gear = you take most time less dmg

if you do dmg between 500-1000. and you have high % reinforcment ( wpn ), you have more chance to hit 1000 dmg than 500 dmg.

if you take dmg between 500-1000. and have high % reinforcment ( gear ) , you have more chances to take 500 dmg than 1000 dmg

and all ints without 90 ice, gonna die like shit.

juntakashi · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751

nimezhenhao wrote:

high reinforcment on weapons = you hit most time more
high reinforcment on gear = you take most time less dmg

if you do dmg between 500-1000. and you have high % reinforcment ( wpn ), you have more chance to hit 1000 dmg than 500 dmg.

if you take dmg between 500-1000. and have high % reinforcment ( gear ) , you have more chances to take 500 dmg than 1000 dmg

and all ints without 90 ice, gonna die like shit.

omg dun confuse ppl plz

it should be

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high reinforcment on weapons = you hit more dmg
high reinforcment on gear = you have higher def
both reinforcement are included in the formula in calculating the total damage output of a weapon/total defence of gear

if you do dmg between 500-1000. and you have high attacking rating NOT reinforce ( wpn ), you have more chance to hit 1000 dmg than 500 dmg.

if you take dmg between 500-1000. and have high parry ratio NOT reinforce ( gear ) , you have more chances to take 500 dmg than 1000 dmg

CHIPS · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 298 **Location:**

My opinion is the same as the OPs, for the chinese.

Full Str: Of course wear garment. You run faster and use less pots. You tank physical attack a tiny bit worst than armor, but you tank mag damage a lot better, good enough for you to survive a nuke so the pots can kick in.

Full Int: Wearing armor sounds like a good choice to increase survivability. But it only sounds good on theory, and do not work in action. I had a level 44 s/s full int nuker wearing good full armor. She still have a 50% chance of dying when she gets critical by lvl 49 Mujigi. This will get worst as the full int levels up. My conclusion is, if you are full int don't even bother trying to tank. Just get garment for its vast benefits.

European have no auto pot so the situation is very different. But it seems everyone just wears what they want and it won't make a differene. For example, once a warrior puts on Iron Skin or Mana Skin, or a cleric uses Bless Spell, it doesn't really matter what armor the guy was using. On the other hand, a full int wizard with NO AUTOPOT will die anyways without his allies supporting him, so once again wearing heavy armor or robe makes no difference. My conclusion for european is, wear what you think looks the best for your character class.

I am pretty sure that the phy and mag reinforcement decrease the damage you take accordingly. Not sure about if it actually increase the damage that you deals to the enemy....

nimezhenhao · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 135

juntakashi wrote:

nimezhenhao wrote:

high reinforcment on weapons = you hit most time more
high reinforcment on gear = you take most time less dmg

if you do dmg between 500-1000. and you have high % reinforcment ( wpn ), you have more chance to hit 1000 dmg than 500 dmg.

if you take dmg between 500-1000. and have high % reinforcment ( gear ) , you have more chances to take 500 dmg than 1000 dmg

and all ints without 90 ice, gonna die like shit.

omg dun confuse ppl plz

it should be

Quote:

high reinforcment on weapons = you hit more dmg
high reinforcment on gear = you have higher def
both reinforcement are included in the formula in calculating the total damage output of a weapon/total defence of gear

if you do dmg between 500-1000. and you have high attacking rating NOT reinforce ( wpn ), you have more chance to hit 1000 dmg than 500 dmg.

if you take dmg between 500-1000. and have high parry ratio NOT reinforce ( gear ) , you have more chances to take 500 dmg than 1000 dmg

any proofs for that? :d I'm sorry, if i'm wrong then. heh

lynette · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 56 **Location:**

nimezhenhao wrote:

juntakashi wrote:

nimezhenhao wrote:

high reinforcment on weapons = you hit most time more
high reinforcment on gear = you take most time less dmg

if you do dmg between 500-1000. and you have high % reinforcment ( wpn ), you have more chance to hit 1000 dmg than 500 dmg.

if you take dmg between 500-1000. and have high % reinforcment ( gear ) , you have more chances to take 500 dmg than 1000 dmg

and all ints without 90 ice, gonna die like shit.

omg dun confuse ppl plz

it should be

Quote:

high reinforcment on weapons = you hit more dmg
high reinforcment on gear = you have higher def
both reinforcement are included in the formula in calculating the total damage output of a weapon/total defence of gear

if you do dmg between 500-1000. and you have high attacking rating NOT reinforce ( wpn ), you have more chance to hit 1000 dmg than 500 dmg.

if you take dmg between 500-1000. and have high parry ratio NOT reinforce ( gear ) , you have more chances to take 500 dmg than 1000 dmg

any proofs for that? :d I'm sorry, if i'm wrong then. heh

yes, i agree that once int wear armour, they are very weak against other ints, i can 1 shot a pure int in armour s/s. full gear all +5 with full blue

Hence, int shld eitehr go prot or garments..... but 9D garments =.=... loook stupid...

and juntakashi is right about what he says. =)

†erminal · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1138 **Location:**

I'm a 90% s/s int hybrid, doing 90 light 90 bich 90 ice 30 fire the usual shit, and im very hesitant about this.
True garms are Farking amazing with the mp and speed bonus, and ints would have an amazingly difficult time to kill you...
But, wouldn't a strong glavier or 2H just freaking rip you up (after ironwall is down)?
It might be necessary for me to do at least being hybrid with high leveled snow shield, as i might find myself unable to use skills which is a big no no.
I'm torn between sexy prot and comfortable garms

lynette · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 56 **Location:**

heh, i go for sexy prot =X

phulshof · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 1137 **Location:**

Well, if it was just Chinese characters still, using protector or garments would make sense. A Chinese STR character deals about as much physical damage as he does magical damage (lower balance, but higher damage numbers overall). The crits would start to really hurt of course, but you could compensate with the cold phy defense skills.

Against Euro however, things change. The STR builds deal ONLY physical damage, and the difference between garments and armor will be very clear. The only problem is snow shield. If you wear armor, you really cannot afford a 50% or even 60% snow shield; you'll be running out of MP.

I guess it all comes down to cold. If you take it up all the way, garments are probably a good choice, and the only choice if you consider snow shield. If you take it to level 60 like I do, armor or protector is probably the better choice.

Khephren · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 6 **Location:**

garment is smexy so , i will always use it ^^

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