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Crni_Vatreni
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Post subject: Owning a rogue in a pvp is easy Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:56 pm |
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It really is... lol
I'll tell u how after u guys discuss a bit. Does anyone have an idea how to kill a rogue before it eats u alive?
EDIT: Rogues is unpawnable in a job/guild war. But pvp - easyyyy  *coughforabladercough*
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littleowner
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Post subject: Re: Owning a rogue in a pvp is easy Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:58 pm |
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Crni_Vatreni wrote: It really is... lol I'll tell u how after u guys discuss a bit. Does anyone have an idea how to kill a rogue before it eats u alive? EDIT: Rogues is unpawnable in a job/guild war. But pvp - easyyyy  *coughforabladercough*
nope they have the stealth skill..
and the crit is so high..
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:03 pm |
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if you are able to detect the rouge on time then it's over for him.
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Trice
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:05 pm |
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littleowner
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Post subject: Re: Owning a rogue in a pvp is easy Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:19 pm |
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Crni_Vatreni wrote: It really is... lol I'll tell u how after u guys discuss a bit. Does anyone have an idea how to kill a rogue before it eats u alive? EDIT: Rogues is unpawnable in a job/guild war. But pvp - easyyyy  *coughforabladercough*
well tell ur idea..?
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Post subject: Re: Owning a rogue in a pvp is easy Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:28 pm |
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Crni_Vatreni wrote: It really is... lol I'll tell u how after u guys discuss a bit. Does anyone have an idea how to kill a rogue before it eats u alive? EDIT: Rogues is unpawnable in a job/guild war. But pvp - easyyyy  *coughforabladercough*
I don't agree.
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punch
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:30 pm |
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for a start invis/stealth is there for the char to kill you when you least expect it. if you're gonna ice wall + snow shield ++++ then i'll rather just stay in stealth until you're tired of standing a cube, or when your snow shield goes down. at the most i'll just go elsewhere and pk someone else with my imbaness before finding you when you LEAST EXPECT IT.
and one more thing...xbow and mage range are far greater than nuker's nuke range.
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Project-Dragon
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:33 pm |
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pimpmyxride
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:40 pm |
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Tell us. Maybe they have shadow when stealth?
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YaNiv
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:56 pm |
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u r a cocky noob, soon in 9dgr u will get owned, now u have suns only reason u r owning them easy, a rouge with sub cleric will own u easy
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Juey
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:02 pm |
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lol rogue is easy to deal with once you know they are coming and be prepared for it. rogue depends on moment of surprise of the ignorant of their enemy.
A good rogue will keep their enemy guessing.
Once I had several people keep using expensive pills running around trying to detect me when I already unsuited in stealth and went AFK. Wonder how long it took them to realize I wasn't there anymore.
However most of those counter-measure can easily be bypassed by having a partner. Someone to take off that Crystal wall, and let the prick begin 
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ColourBlind
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:03 pm |
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Juey wrote: lol rogue is easy to deal with once you know they are coming and be prepared for it. rogue depends on moment of surprise of the ignorant of their enemy. A good rogue will keep their enemy guessing. Once I had several people keep using expensive pills running around trying to detect me when I already unsuited in stealth and went AFK. Wonder how long it took them to realize I wasn't there anymore. However most of those counter-measure can easily be bypassed by having a partner. Someone to take off that Crystal wall, and let the prick begin 
LOL 
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Glavie's Girl
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:07 pm |
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+1 to joey
Anyways when will you guys realize that "pvp" means party verus party, and no longer means player verus player. lol
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BryaN
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:37 pm |
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Lol Crni... Youre just happy you can beat rogues cuz you killed my lvl 30 rogue ¬¬ 
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ShadowSpell
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:47 pm |
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Trice wrote: im a nuker, i manage to eat rogues my own level by doin this:
Stand in middle all buffed and shiny. snow shield. icewall. as soon as the rogue destealths to dagger you, castle shield and nuke + kd, or nuke + shout x2 or nuke nuke shout, whatever is needed that can be done quick to kill the little fecker. nuke + kd is preferred coz due to their potting the stab pretty much kills them
if its an xbow rogue, their first destealth hit kills your ice wall, then castle shield + nuke followed by phantom kd stab
tada. dead rogues.
for wizard is same, just use fire shield ^_^
lol dont be so sure of your self, if your fighting a SMART euro, they would knock that castle shield or fire shield off you quicker then you knew what hit you and you still would be dead
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Aby
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:49 pm |
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Pop it
Because it's a lvl 20 Rogue and they don't own jack until they get their buffs
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:49 pm |
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Trice wrote: im a nuker, i manage to eat rogues my own level by doin this:
Stand in middle all buffed and shiny. snow shield. icewall. as soon as the rogue destealths to dagger you, castle shield and nuke + kd, or nuke + shout x2 or nuke nuke shout, whatever is needed that can be done quick to kill the little fecker. nuke + kd is preferred coz due to their potting the stab pretty much kills them
if its an xbow rogue, their first destealth hit kills your ice wall, then castle shield + nuke followed by phantom kd stab
tada. dead rogues.
for wizard is same, just use fire shield ^_^ yep . +1 same stuff works for me  Juey wrote: However most of those counter-measure can easily be bypassed by having a partner. Someone to take off that Crystal wall, and let the prick begin 
u mean 2v 1 .... of course u win lal
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Crumpets
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:50 pm |
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YaNiv wrote: u r a cocky noob, soon in 9dgr u will get owned, now u have suns only reason u r owning them easy, a rouge with sub cleric will own u easy
Sorry sandy but if you think that at 90 cap .. whenever it comes Euro's will be anywhere near as powerful as they are now, you are mistaken.
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Deacon
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:53 pm |
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Another blah blah thread tbh. +1 to growing ur e-penis 
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JewishZombie
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:55 pm |
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I fought a same level rogue who kept trying to kill me. (lvl 52 at the time).
So, at least for a spear/glaive char, it's easy to kill a rogue (assuming 0 gap).
If you know that one is coming, usually he would take the most direct route to you. Generally speaking though, if it's an American/european player though, the route they take is more circuitious. If it is turk/middle eastern it's a straight line from their original location. Perhaps this is an artifact of counterstrike...but whatever.
Anyway, assuming that they are coming straight to you, just keep activating imbue and hold the mouse selector EXACTLY where they would appear; as soon as they destealth to do prick (since that's the most damaging move), do the heuksal spiny damage attack. Assuming it's same level with a 0-gap, and that the rogue has desperate daggars on, it'll be a one hit (I know this is true for a pure int spear, and I'd assuming that it'd probably be true for pure str, but I could be wrong).
The turk who kept attacking me in stealth but dying then called one of his high level guildmates to come kill me...the guildmate was around 73...without ice immunity...or pills. Mmm...popsicle turk. (followed by me running into town...since of course, I'm the noob >.>)
Anyway, alternateively, you could activate ice shield right before you expect the attack, and it'd stop the first hit (the most damaging one since when attackign in stealth gets like +120 physical attack or something with a passive) and then...they're toast. Unless a rogue kills in the first hit...it's screwed.
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BalkanFanaticS
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:59 pm |
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hmmm this is a nice topic u guys covered it up great , but u should make one for anti-wizard pvp 
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ShadowSpell
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:02 pm |
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yeah lets hear what you guys have to say how to stop a wizard? and dont forget a wizard has invisilble, KB at almost 100%, root, and fear both at 80%, oh yeah dont forget teleport (I have 18m), and that always loved fire/lava trap.
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Vandango
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:11 pm |
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Theory is just thoughts
but when a Rouge does make a killer blow u cant do nothing
as soon as he starts the killer attack u cant move buff or anything ur plain screwed
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ArchYourFace
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:16 pm |
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Um what about the stealth detection potions. Just detect their stealth and get them first DD leaves them weak. Maybe stealth detect potions don’t work like that, I dunno.
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Crumpets
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:18 pm |
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soulreapr wrote: yeah lets hear what you guys have to say how to stop a wizard? and dont forget a wizard has invisilble, KB at almost 100%, root, and fear both at 80%, oh yeah dont forget teleport (I have 18m), and that always loved fire/lava trap.
Easy .... Firewall? LOL
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arctic197
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:19 pm |
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Deacon wrote: Another blah blah thread tbh. +1 to growing ur e-penis 
lol dude, you fail
Yeah, anyway one way to beat rogue is for you to be rogue 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:23 pm |
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easy to kill? they r fast and crit damn high....
u stand no chance if they CRIT,KB and KD u......
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Aby
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:23 pm |
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soulreapr wrote: yeah lets hear what you guys have to say how to stop a wizard? and dont forget a wizard has invisilble, KB at almost 100%, root, and fear both at 80%, oh yeah dont forget teleport (I have 18m), and that always loved fire/lava trap.
Anyone who has ever played a wizard will tell you knockback is more like 500%, and fear is more like 30%. Idk why anyone would ever use root..
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ShadowSpell
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:23 pm |
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Crumpets wrote: soulreapr wrote: yeah lets hear what you guys have to say how to stop a wizard? and dont forget a wizard has invisilble, KB at almost 100%, root, and fear both at 80%, oh yeah dont forget teleport (I have 18m), and that always loved fire/lava trap. Easy .... Firewall? LOL
lol not that easy, i just use a plain attack and knock it off you then 1 hit you anyways, a wizard got alot longer attack distance and then after its off, use lightning knock them back which cancels your atack and then hit them with meteor, and with meteor lvl 76(not even 80 skill) it does 16k damage to a lvl 80 str, and firewall, thats not beating them thats just sitting there waiting, what happens if they wait for you to attack?
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:27 pm |
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i love it when bladers use firewall on warlocks...
they are stuck there while i debuff them
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