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Well... to start off... I'm a huge fan of chinese bow, and str bow is my main character. Personally, I'm maxing Pach, Light, and Fire until caps force me to delevel. (Keeping 20 Cold the whole time for 20% Snow Shield). At end game (if I'm still around), I will be Pach/Light. Why Light? I have many reasons. 1: I'm a speed hog, the faster I can grind, the better. 2: Bow has AR skills and passive, and Light compliments that with PR skills and passive (seems like they are two sides of the same coin to me). 3: As nightcrystal mentioned, people aim to take out bowmen when possible, without Ghostwalk, you are a sitting duck (considering in most group fights almost everyone will have Bard speed buff).
@Anjie: I believe one of the Chinese strengths is their ability to compensate for their weak points (which is much harder for Euros). Example: Ints can have Cold for PDef and a periodical tanking skill. Strs can have Fire for MDef and +%PDmg. Ints can wear armor for further increases in PDef, Strs can wear garms for MDef and less mana usuage (Yes, I'm sure you know all of this). I will agree that as a Bower with Cold, you will seriously hurt people who aren't immune. However, considering the fact that Clerics can make the whole party immune with Holy Word... and the fact that almost every Chinese can be immune with Fire Shield... It seems like a waste of 90 masteries to me. If you really want more PDef, wear armor :P lol. As for how light makes you kill faster. Uh... Piercing Force? Light gives you more dmg buffs than Cold does (none whatsoever).
@D4yw4lk3r: 90 Masteries for one skill series? Not for me, sorry. Division really doesn't add as much damage as you would hope (Bich chains division lvl 8 on a mob adds like 10-20% damage for me, so yea, no). Lowest lvl Ghostwalk is a joke... Seriously... Have you even used it? Pathetic.

Also, if anyone wants to know why I am choosing Light over Fire for end game: http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=64586

Hope this post helped some people...

Edit: Forgot to meantion something else. I have 20% Snow Shield and sometimes (very rarely) I do run out of MP (usually happens when I am tanking more than 4 or 5 PT Mages. I have 8.1k MP (keep in mind I'm still using large pots :P).

Edit2: @Braka: Imho, 50 Cold isn't worth it. I'm 76 and I have 810 Pdef, 30 more levels into Cold translates roughly into +4.4% PDef for me. I am wearing garms also. At 90, the +PDef will be even less than 4% probably. So, I really don't think its worth those 30 masteries. But that's just my opinion.

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D4yw4lk3r wrote:
90 is going to bring Division for Force so my advice would be

Force: 90
Pacheon: 90
Fire: 88
Lightning: 32 (lowest ghost walk should be a must!)
lol
people just said 1000 times you need to have speed+a good phantom walk

those 10 meters isn't going to save you, neither the (what is it, 30% grasswalk or something?)

Chinese shouldn't take the force three, euro's are way more effective with ****/cleric

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Edit2: @Braka: Imho, 50 Cold isn't worth it. I'm 76 and I have 810 Pdef, 30 more levels into Cold translates roughly into +4.4% PDef for me. I am wearing garms also. At 90, the +PDef will be even less than 4% probably. So, I really don't think its worth those 30 masteries. But that's just my opinion.
it was just something to put in at the end with the left over masterys :) on the sp saving part of my post :wink:


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im building 90 light 90 pacheon 90 force 30 fire.

everyone prepare to die.

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im building 90 light 90 pacheon 90 force 30 fire.

everyone prepare to die.
/me dies .. no wait i phantomed away

i will go look into the 90 force skills i think


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EternalShadow wrote:
Edit2: @Braka: Imho, 50 Cold isn't worth it. I'm 76 and I have 810 Pdef, 30 more levels into Cold translates roughly into +4.4% PDef for me. I am wearing garms also. At 90, the +PDef will be even less than 4% probably. So, I really don't think its worth those 30 masteries. But that's just my opinion.


oO i dont think u know the 90 passive + buff of ice. Thats 132+132= 266.
That will be more than ur less than 4%. Close to 12-15% if you are wearing garments (assuming u will have 1.5k phy def at 90 cap).
But personally ice isnt worth that much for str based char, since they get alot of phy def of the phy reinforce of their gear.
Just was bored and wanted to post this :D

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deffinitely NOT FKIN ICE FOR BOW
def buffs? wtf?? u are str, u will have 30k+ HP for sure
speed is yes, needed for bowmen, mag attack? hell yeah!
i am atm bow/fire/light 73 and ice 60 and i can tank lvl 80 nukers >.<
also i can kill them easily
deffinitely 90-90-90 bow/fire/light and rest for cold. (if they raise cap woohoo!)

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 Post subject: Re: 90 cap str bow
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:57 am 
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ineedhelp wrote:
um all i can say is this is a pure fail build ok ice 90 for wat if u already pure str and if u getting 90ice for snow shield u are a even bigger idiot the most a pure str needs is 20 ice or 30 ice for 90 cap
u are perfectly fine with first book of snow shield heck im pure str
and in pvp i have that snow shield i always get the no more mp message
so basically u dont need 90 ice OMG wait u said u a bow LMAO no light
are u serious LMAO ROFL this is just EPIC Fail from the begging sorry
but thats the truth mag attack increase increase speed
speed walk parry ratio buff+ passive is way more important than u think


I sure as **** hope you have tried a level 90 full farmed bowman with both Ice and Light to so enthusiastically expell Ice as being useless.

My Bow char:

Level 80 Full farmed Pure Str

-80 Pacheon
-80 Fire
-80 Ice <-- yes... ICE
-60 Light

And at 90 cap I'll be 90 Pacheon/Fire/Ice... 30 Light

If you have a good build and gears you shouldn't need to run away from anything. In the time you ghost walked away you could've easily finished a 5 arrow combo and knocked them back. Wanna run faster? Buy the speed drugs and out run anyone who uses max light + ghost walk. Who goes for the bowman first in a group fight I mean honestly... If they were smart they'd go for the harder hitters like wizards/Rogues

Have your oppinions fine.. but I sure hope you've tried them both before you can so blatently pass something off as a waste such as 'ineedhelp' has.

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D4yw4lk3r wrote:
90 is going to bring Division for Force so my advice would be

Force: 90
Pacheon: 90
Fire: 88
Lightning: 32 (lowest ghost walk should be a must!)


force 90? lol
i rather choose ice 90 than force.

anyway, u need light so, don't left out.

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rofl
you guys need to read the whole post before you call me an effin idiot. :D
I have already stated my "new" idea so get over it. :roll:


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i dun think any1 called u idiot
but bowers need speed.

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0nex wrote:
D4yw4lk3r wrote:
90 is going to bring Division for Force so my advice would be

Force: 90
Pacheon: 90
Fire: 88
Lightning: 32 (lowest ghost walk should be a must!)


force 90? lol
i rather choose ice 90 than force.

anyway, u need light so, don't left out.



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 Post subject: Re: 90 cap str bow
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for bower go for 90.pancheon/fire/force and 30light or 90.pancheon/fire 70.light 50.cold

for 100cap go for 100.pancheon/fire/force or 100.pancheon/fire 70.light 30.cold

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90 ice is too much even if you have lvl 90 ice with lvl 20 snow the deffence from pro can be just as good the parry from light is far better

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