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Post subject:  Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:12 am |
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TOloseGT wrote: omfg, we already know joymax sees pk2 editting as illegal. that's not the issue here.
on here, the silkroadforums, pk2 editting, both support for and admitting to are NOT against the forum rules.
it is the issue here
because pk2 editing falls under 3rd party programs and if srf bans for botting but not pk2 editing then they are breaking the rules
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thAi wrote: SuicideGrl wrote: 1) Be a bot supporter. Change your avatar to the pointy-finger bot symbol. Put "0x33" somewhere in your sig. Talk openly about, admit to, or suggest botting in a thread. Ask about how to buy, offer to sell, or post links to bot clients, etc. DOING ANY OF THESE THINGS WILL RESULT IN AN INSTANT BAN. There will be no warnings. There will be no discussion. There is ZERO tolerance. I've always been wondering. Wtf is 0x33?!?! a website
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:14 am |
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Oh ok thanks.
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Plus by banning people that bot from forums is making it worse imo, if you find out somone bots.. and ban them, stop talking to them they will have noone to talk to while online except people who accept botters(most of them will be bots themselves and probly afk) so all there friends will be afk which means noone to talk to so they go afk too.... and never do anything else just bot..
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:14 am |
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imp3r10 wrote: TOloseGT wrote: omfg, we already know joymax sees pk2 editting as illegal. that's not the issue here.
on here, the silkroadforums, pk2 editting, both support for and admitting to are NOT against the forum rules. it is the issue here because pk2 editing falls under 3rd party programs and if srf bans for botting but not pk2 editing then they are breaking the rules No, it doesn't. Simply because you say it does doesn't make it true..
I used a program called Xfire, it picked up on Sro and stated I was playing it. Ban me please?
Pk2 editing is the editing of the game files to change certain things within the game, be it appearance, music, ect. You finish editing and turn off every program running, then you start Sro. Are you using a 3rd party program? I think not.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:17 am |
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imp3r10 wrote: how many times do i ahve to say it
pk2 editing is a copyright infringement. joymax has copyrighted everything in this game, thats why u cant sell characters or accounts or gold, The SRF rules differ from that of JM. It only affects the person who applied the edit and gives no unfair advantage compared to other players which is why it is legal here.SuicideNz wrote: Yes you do see bot bans, but look wats on there gold bots not player bots, JM doesnt care about bots and your words arnt going to change that so why make a big fuss about it Wrong. I know player bots that have been banned.
You'll use every excuse you can to defend botters. lol _SomeOne_ wrote: u are modifying the client.. sro has once said users that are using modifed clients should redownload the client, or they might be banned from game
some think like that None of them are. I don't know anyone who has been banned for pk2 editing. For the most part, they are just switching files around.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:17 am |
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Azilius wrote: imp3r10 wrote: TOloseGT wrote: omfg, we already know joymax sees pk2 editting as illegal. that's not the issue here.
on here, the silkroadforums, pk2 editting, both support for and admitting to are NOT against the forum rules. it is the issue here because pk2 editing falls under 3rd party programs and if srf bans for botting but not pk2 editing then they are breaking the rules No, it doesn't. Simply because you say it does doesn't make it true.. I used a program called Xfire, it picked up on Sro and stated I was playing it. Ban me please? Pk2 editing is the editing of the game files to change certain things within the game, be it appearance, music, ect. You finish editing and turn off every program running, then you start Sro. Are you using a 3rd party program? I think not. xfire doesnt modify the client like pk2 editing and you said it yourself Quote: Pk2 editing is the editing of the game files
that right there is done by 3rd party program
all a bot does is edit program packets(files) in reality its no different, but it just edits different files
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:17 am |
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Azilius wrote: imp3r10 wrote: TOloseGT wrote: omfg, we already know joymax sees pk2 editting as illegal. that's not the issue here.
on here, the silkroadforums, pk2 editting, both support for and admitting to are NOT against the forum rules. it is the issue here because pk2 editing falls under 3rd party programs and if srf bans for botting but not pk2 editing then they are breaking the rules No, it doesn't. Simply because you say it does doesn't make it true.. I used a program called Xfire, it picked up on Sro and stated I was playing it. Ban me please? Pk2 editing is the editing of the game files to change certain things within the game, be it appearance, music, ect. You finish editing and turn off every program running, then you start Sro. Are you using a 3rd party program? I think not. xfire does not edit the client in any way
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:19 am |
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imp3r10 wrote: it is the issue here
because pk2 editing falls under 3rd party programs and if srf bans for botting but not pk2 editing then they are breaking the rules no, they seperate the two. no to botting, indifference to pk2 editting. srf isn't joymax, it doesn't associate itself with joymax, nor does it care either way about joymax's ToS. you and many others here can't seem to differentiate the game with the forums.
you do know srf is a fan forum right?
the rules are clear. they're there, and we can't do shit about them. there could be a new rule tomorrow that bans a whole group of IPs from a region, and we can't do shit about it. admin's words are final, and we're here cuz he's giving that privilege to us.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:20 am |
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Da_Realest wrote: imp3r10 wrote: how many times do i ahve to say it
pk2 editing is a copyright infringement. joymax has copyrighted everything in this game, thats why u cant sell characters or accounts or gold, The SRF rules differ from that of JM. It only affects the person who applied the edit and gives no unfair advantage compared to other players which is why it is legal here.SuicideNz wrote: Yes you do see bot bans, but look wats on there gold bots not player bots, JM doesnt care about bots and your words arnt going to change that so why make a big fuss about it Wrong. I know player bots that have been banned.
You'll use every excuse you can to defend botters. lol _SomeOne_ wrote: u are modifying the client.. sro has once said users that are using modifed clients should redownload the client, or they might be banned from game
some think like that None of them are. I don't know anyone who has been banned for pk2 editing. For the most part, they are just switching files around. yea .. of corse no one is gonna get banned..
i only see gold bots getting banned and they are porb fake..
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:20 am |
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OK let me get this clear
the topic we are debating is not whether botting is illegal or pk2 is illegal, we already know that, but we are debating that the part in the rules of 3rd party program is unclear and does not convey its true meaning. if botters r banned then pk2 editers are banned, unless they clear up the rules
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:21 am |
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Da_Realest wrote: imp3r10 wrote: how many times do i ahve to say it
pk2 editing is a copyright infringement. joymax has copyrighted everything in this game, thats why u cant sell characters or accounts or gold, The SRF rules differ from that of JM. It only affects the person who applied the edit and gives no unfair advantage compared to other players which is why it is legal here.SuicideNz wrote: Yes you do see bot bans, but look wats on there gold bots not player bots, JM doesnt care about bots and your words arnt going to change that so why make a big fuss about it Wrong. I know player bots that have been banned.
You'll use every excuse you can to defend botters. lol _SomeOne_ wrote: u are modifying the client.. sro has once said users that are using modifed clients should redownload the client, or they might be banned from game
some think like that None of them are. I don't know anyone who has been banned for pk2 editing. For the most part, they are just switching files around. I am not defending botters i am i am trying to get you guys to realise wat you are doing to the forums by flaming everyone you THINK or know bots, you are just causing everyone to hate one another
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:21 am |
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Funny how this whole thing exploded into a huge discussion.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:22 am |
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TOloseGT wrote: imp3r10 wrote: it is the issue here
because pk2 editing falls under 3rd party programs and if srf bans for botting but not pk2 editing then they are breaking the rules no, they seperate the two. no to botting, indifference to pk2 editting. srf isn't joymax, it doesn't associate itself with joymax, nor does it care either way about joymax's ToS. you and many others here can't seem to differentiate the game with the forums. you do know srf is a fan forum right? the rules are clear. they're there, and we can't do shit about them. there could be a new rule tomorrow that bans a whole group of IPs from a region, and we can't do shit about it. admin's words are final, and we're here cuz he's giving that privilege to us. we are not talking about botting, we are talking about the 3rd party program. no one here can prove that i actually had a program play for me, but i did use 3rd party program
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:24 am |
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imp3r10 wrote: we are not talking about botting, we are talking about the 3rd party program. no one here can prove that i actually had a program play for me, but i did use 3rd party program
Hold on. You still deny that you bot?
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:26 am |
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imp3r10 wrote: Azilius wrote: imp3r10 wrote: TOloseGT wrote: omfg, we already know joymax sees pk2 editting as illegal. that's not the issue here.
on here, the silkroadforums, pk2 editting, both support for and admitting to are NOT against the forum rules. it is the issue here because pk2 editing falls under 3rd party programs and if srf bans for botting but not pk2 editing then they are breaking the rules No, it doesn't. Simply because you say it does doesn't make it true.. I used a program called Xfire, it picked up on Sro and stated I was playing it. Ban me please? Pk2 editing is the editing of the game files to change certain things within the game, be it appearance, music, ect. You finish editing and turn off every program running, then you start Sro. Are you using a 3rd party program? I think not. xfire doesnt modify the client like pk2 editing and you said it yourself Quote: Pk2 editing is the editing of the game files that right there is done by 3rd party program all a bot does is edit program packets(files) in reality its no different, but it just edits different files First it's copy right infringement now it's third party programs. Before it was 'You all bot too so i don't give a shit'. You're all over the place. You're taking things WAY to literal while reading the rules. You can debate over this as long as you like but you KNOW that Pk2 editing is not something to be banned over. The line is CLEARLY drawn in the rules. You are trying to make up any little excuse which may let you stay for a little longer or bring others down with you.
No matter what I say you'll counter with something you can think up of. I can go to long lengths to prove you wrong but in the end you're banned regardless.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:26 am |
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_SomeOne_ wrote: Da_Realest wrote: imp3r10 wrote: how many times do i ahve to say it
pk2 editing is a copyright infringement. joymax has copyrighted everything in this game, thats why u cant sell characters or accounts or gold, The SRF rules differ from that of JM. It only affects the person who applied the edit and gives no unfair advantage compared to other players which is why it is legal here.SuicideNz wrote: Yes you do see bot bans, but look wats on there gold bots not player bots, JM doesnt care about bots and your words arnt going to change that so why make a big fuss about it Wrong. I know player bots that have been banned.
You'll use every excuse you can to defend botters. lol _SomeOne_ wrote: u are modifying the client.. sro has once said users that are using modifed clients should redownload the client, or they might be banned from game
some think like that None of them are. I don't know anyone who has been banned for pk2 editing. For the most part, they are just switching files around. yea .. of corse no one is gonna get banned.. i only see gold bots getting banned and they are porb fake..
A bot is a bot in JM eyes. Doesn't matter if you buy silk, gold bot, or w/e. Of course JM would rather just prevent people from botting to keep players, but they will ban bots if they feel they have to. To say that JM supports botting is incorrect.
C'mon, you got to come with a better excuse than that. SuicideNz wrote: I am not defending botters i am i am trying to get you guys to realise wat you are doing to the forums by flaming everyone you THINK or know bots, you are just causing everyone to hate one another Screenshot proves he uses a bot. End of discussion.
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Prophet Izaach wrote: imp3r10 wrote: we are not talking about botting, we are talking about the 3rd party program. no one here can prove that i actually had a program play for me, but i did use 3rd party program Hold on. You still deny that you bot? i said that no one can prove that i had a program play for me
for those of you who dont know bots have filters for rabbits more detailed than the ones in game, i use the bot for these filters so i dont have to waste editing out rabbit from arrows when i just want certain tabs.
i hand grind alot of the time, and this program helps me sort items and doesnt affect other players
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:27 am |
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Calm down my friends.
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thAi wrote: Calm down my friends.
How come SRF always goes 'Omg a debate! Everyone is mad!'
Some people like debating >_>
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Azilius wrote: imp3r10 wrote: Azilius wrote: imp3r10 wrote: TOloseGT wrote: omfg, we already know joymax sees pk2 editting as illegal. that's not the issue here.
on here, the silkroadforums, pk2 editting, both support for and admitting to are NOT against the forum rules. it is the issue here because pk2 editing falls under 3rd party programs and if srf bans for botting but not pk2 editing then they are breaking the rules No, it doesn't. Simply because you say it does doesn't make it true.. I used a program called Xfire, it picked up on Sro and stated I was playing it. Ban me please? Pk2 editing is the editing of the game files to change certain things within the game, be it appearance, music, ect. You finish editing and turn off every program running, then you start Sro. Are you using a 3rd party program? I think not. xfire doesnt modify the client like pk2 editing and you said it yourself Quote: Pk2 editing is the editing of the game files that right there is done by 3rd party program all a bot does is edit program packets(files) in reality its no different, but it just edits different files First it's copy right infringement now it's third party programs. Before it was 'You all bot too so i don't give a shit'. You're all over the place. You're taking things WAY to literal while reading the rules. You can debate over this as long as you like but you KNOW that Pk2 editing is not something to be banned over. The line is CLEARLY drawn in the rules. You are trying to make up any little excuse which may let you stay for a little longer or bring others down with you. No matter what I say you'll counter with something you can think up of. I can go to long lengths to prove you wrong but in the end you're banned regardless. copyright infringement was to show that pk2 editing is illegal and if you had noticed all my debates were centered around the same point
and the rules are not clear, that is wat we are debating
EDIT* i like debating too, dunnow why i didnt join the school debate team
but if i do get banned, it was fun to play on the weak side of this debate and i hope i opened your peoples eyes to some inconsistencies here
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imp3r10 wrote: we are not talking about botting, we are talking about the 3rd party program. no one here can prove that i actually had a program play for me, but i did use 3rd party program frankly, i don't understand how many of you think you have a say in srf policies.
taking the incriminating screenshot yourself, and denying you bot, while at the same time blowing it off saying "lots of ppl do it", gives you a very bad case.
and srf doesn't ban ppl for pk2 editting, that should be a clue as to where srf stands.
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imp3r10 wrote: i said that no one can prove that i had a program play for me
for those of you who dont know bots have filters for rabbits more detailed than the ones in game, i use the bot for these filters so i dont have to waste editing out rabbit from arrows when i just want certain tabs.
i hand grind alot of the time, and this program helps me sort items and doesnt affect other players
And you expect this to justify your used of a 3rd party program? On a second note, you can make up as many excuses as you want, but without any credible evidence that you do not bot, the screen shot is enough to assume that you do.
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TOloseGT wrote: imp3r10 wrote: we are not talking about botting, we are talking about the 3rd party program. no one here can prove that i actually had a program play for me, but i did use 3rd party program frankly, i don't understand how many of you think you have a say in srf policies. taking the incriminating screenshot yourself, and denying you bot, while at the same time blowing it off saying "lots of ppl do it", gives you a very bad case. and srf doesn't ban ppl for pk2 editting, that should be a clue as to where srf stands. thats the point im focusing on
they need to make rules more clear, as pk2 editing is considered 3rd party program
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TOloseGT wrote: imp3r10 wrote: we are not talking about botting, we are talking about the 3rd party program. no one here can prove that i actually had a program play for me, but i did use 3rd party program frankly, i don't understand how many of you think you have a say in srf policies. taking the incriminating screenshot yourself, and denying you bot, while at the same time blowing it off saying "lots of ppl do it", gives you a very bad case. and srf doesn't ban ppl for pk2 editting, that should be a clue as to where srf stands. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
editing a file with a program that joymax does not make, means it must be a 3rd party program...
ok im done here, going a sleep CYAAA!
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Topic locked in 3..2..1..
I see Key J online 
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lol imper...
and wow 7 pages now....
btw u need careful next time ..u just pawnt urself..no offend
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imp3r10 wrote: thats the point im focusing on
they need to make rules more clear, as pk2 editing is considered 3rd party program no they don't. srf doesn't care if you pk2 edit. that's been stated so many times it's not funny nemore. there are countless threads showing ppl's findings when they pk2 edit. srf does not care about ne other 3rd party programs except for bots, and srf is very clear where it stands in that regard.
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THE_ZUL wrote: lol imper...
and wow 7 pages now....
btw u need careful next time ..u just pawnt urself..no offend
i only see 6 ^_^
but if i do get banned then im sorry, as this forum was fun and i like tlaking with all of you
i just hope the admins see past what i did wrong and focus on how i helped out here. it was fun posting my views on topics and ideas and i hope i get to in the future
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