EvilDiablo wrote:
sama98b wrote:
They still don't get it.
Even if you pay real money in this game you don't own anything.
They offer limited service.
Joymax has all the rights do do anything with their game.
They can terminate accounts for no reason and still no way to complain.
Everything is Jm property.
The new tos was changed to clear things up.
What jm decides, they can do, users got 0 rights and controls.
Wouldn't surprise me if they do an user cleanup and only include ppl who
never spent a cent.
Would translate the tos: Everything is legal until jm decided otherwise,
and they can decide different from person to person.
NO, you dont seem to get it, so no offense, but im going to spell it out for you
There would be no basis for reporting them if it wasn't for the fact that (and this is the important part btw) THEY DONT EVEN UPHOLD THEIR PART OF THE END-USER AGREEMENT, if they dont even follow their own goddamn rules, then that would make it a basis for an actual CONCRETE complaint, instead of it just being whiney people complaining that JM is horrible at managing...its not that hard to figure out
the thing is that they do follow thru because: their ToS states that they can decide what is right, and what is wrong on the spot no questions asked. they can ban any of us for something as stupid as saying "Good Morning Sro" - in global, and you can't do a thing about it. They have revamped their ToS so much and reworded it so "well" that atm no matter what we say or do the
only thing we have on them is the hacking incident, and here is the best part:
we have no proof that the hackings occurred.at first i was like sweet if this whole BBB thing works out i might stop googleing past lawsuit information on joymax. [according to one of my sources Joymax was sued
once, and lost; atm I'm trying to find out why] Then i sat down and thought about it and was like, "but that TOS is such a Confounding variable, how could anyone hold up a serious case in a court of law let alone file a report to the BBB without making a full of themselves because of that damn TOS" -
then i thought it over again, and remembered there is a trump card something [i hope joymax overlooked]. In their TOS they stated and I quote [loose quote] "users will be notified of any changes to the TOS through the mainsite:
http://www.silkroadonline.net/" - 0 notification, not one bit of verifiable notification. Then the last piece of the puzzle fell in place - i have no proof other than my own memory that the TOS has been edited for that reason: any report I make for TOS invalidation is considered "fake".
our defeatist friends and cruor have the right Idea:
either A) we play and stfu
B) quit [i have... why the hell am i still here... oh yeah for some odd reason i have "hope"]
or C) buckle down and fight by either finding someone that can send a business inquiry to joymax about hosting and managing an Asro and/or Esro, OR we can band together formulate a plan and see where the BBB takes us.
Today is the beginning of a new era in Isro history: the era we take that 8th deg Glaive and destroy the foundations of incompetence and corruption we call Joymax, the day we take back control, the day legits can proudly proclaim themselves legit without fear of stigmata from the botting majority, Today WE FIGHT!
so who's with me how about we buckle down, and File an SRF issued report to the BBB [we need a reason first though
]
here here.
