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Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Zing wrote:

Lixiae, you're underestimating the game.

Ever heard of a game called chess? It has a much shorter learning-curb than Silkroad Online. There's a total of seven pieces in chess, and they all do one action each. Does this mean chess is very easy to master? No. Chess is in fact, a very hard game to master. It requires loads of adapting and strategical thinking.

Silkroad Online introduces the Europeans. They require teamwork to flourish. You have a total of six classes for the Europeans, with a total of eight weapons to wield. All have supporting and attacking skills to help one another in battle. You need to know when, what, and where to cast your skills. (When to heal. When to cast shield. When to use attacks. When to fall back. When to revive. Etc.)

The problem with, "everyone! swarm the cleric" being a bad idea, is because you're disregarding the damage dealers. Leaving them alone for so long would be the death of you and your party. Therefore you need to disrupt the damage dealers, so you and your party can take out the life source. Within the defensive lines is the warriors, who give a huge amount of defense buff, which means: invulnerable cleric. Then, you have to destroy the warriors, but it won't be easy with the cleric always healing. Which is why, you need to disrupt the cleric to stop the healing, so you can destroy the warriors. In mean time, you need stay together, otherwise, a rogue may take you out without risk of himself being double teamed.

This is only just one of many scenarios within a battle against a party of Europeans. War is chaotic.

Sorry but I stopped reading after you compared sro to Chess. Ridiculous comparison.

*edit* read the rest of your post...like I said, kill the cleric. But thanks for rambling on about one way to do so.

Cloverleaf · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 488 **Location:**

HertogJan wrote:

Lixiae, [..] youre just plain ignorant.

icycatch · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 59 **Location:**

Well, u said any fool can understand the game in 10mins.Not all MMORPG nids to farm. Get wad i mean?

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Cloverleaf wrote:

HertogJan wrote:

Lixiae, [..] youre just plain ignorant.

Thanks for your contribution to the discussion. I feel so enlightened now.

icycatch · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 59 **Location:**

Lixiae wrote:

Zing wrote:

Lixiae, you're underestimating the game.

Ever heard of a game called chess? It has a much shorter learning-curb than Silkroad Online. There's a total of seven pieces in chess, and they all do one action each. Does this mean chess is very easy to master? No. Chess is in fact, a very hard game to master. It requires loads of adapting and strategical thinking.

Silkroad Online introduces the Europeans. They require teamwork to flourish. You have a total of six classes for the Europeans, with a total of eight weapons to wield. All have supporting and attacking skills to help one another in battle. You need to know when, what, and where to cast your skills. (When to heal. When to cast shield. When to use attacks. When to fall back. When to revive. Etc.)

The problem with, "everyone! swarm the cleric" being a bad idea, is because you're disregarding the damage dealers. Leaving them alone for so long would be the death of you and your party. Therefore you need to disrupt the damage dealers, so you and your party can take out the life source. Within the defensive lines is the warriors, who give a huge amount of defense buff, which means: invulnerable cleric. Then, you have to destroy the warriors, but it won't be easy with the cleric always healing. Which is why, you need to disrupt the cleric to stop the healing, so you can destroy the warriors. In mean time, you need stay together, otherwise, a rogue may take you out without risk of himself being double teamed.

This is only just one of many scenarios within a battle against a party of Europeans. War is chaotic.

Sorry but I stopped reading after you compared sro to Chess. Ridiculous comparison.

*edit* read the rest of your post...like I said, kill the cleric. But thanks for rambling on about one way to do so.

chess cant be compared to SRO lol. Chess--> strategic game. SRO---> GRIND. how to compare >.<'''

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

icycatch wrote:

Well, u said any fool can understand the game in 10mins.Not all MMORPG nids to farm. Get wad i mean?

I said play a char, not understand the game. ;p

Deacon · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 4377 **Location:** De Dutch

Lixiae

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Deacon <3 I miss you bro, hope everything is going well.

Deacon · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 4377 **Location:** De Dutch

Lixiae wrote:

Deacon <3 I miss you bro, hope everything is going well.

Could be better.. Home is a weird place at this current moment

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Deacon wrote:

Lixiae wrote:

Deacon <3 I miss you bro, hope everything is going well.

Could be better.. Home is a weird place at this current moment

=((( Sorry to hear that man. It will get better though, just takes time for everyone to adjust. You know I'm always here for ya if you need to talk.

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

Lixiae, I was pointing out the many ways in a battle. Which concludes: Silkroad isn't about keyboard smashing and hope that you win.

It isn't about comparing Silkroad to chess, it's about comparing what you have to do to gain expert status in a game. And to conclude right off the back just because learning the game is fairly easy means you'll master the game just like that is ignorant.

Killing the cleric won't solve your problems. What happens when there's multiple clerics? Yeah, just go after the clerics (rapid healing), while the damage dealers dish out their damage.

Wake up. The game doesn't revolve around who can get to level 80 first and who has most gold.

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Zing wrote:

Lixiae, I was pointing out the many ways in a battle. Which concludes: Silkroad isn't about keyboard smashing and hope that you win.

It isn't about comparing Silkroad to chess, it's about comparing what you have to do to gain expert status in a game. And to conclude right off the back just because learning the game is fairly easy means you'll master the game just like that is ignorant.

Killing the cleric won't solve your problems. What happens when there's multiple clerics? Yeah, just go after the clerics (rapid healing), while the damage dealers dish out their damage.

Wake up. The game doesn't revolve around who can get to level 80 first and who has most gold.

And that my friend, is exactly why you are wrong. The game DOES revolve around who can get highest lvl and have the best gear. You are turning this into a euro/legit vs chinese/bot argument, and that simply is NOT how the game is.

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

Lixiae, you fail to understand. Knowledge is higher than being the highest level. In a one on one match, a lower level rogue can destroy a higher level player.

Oh! And I'm sure I've seen lower level rogues killing seal of sun higher level players.

Can't forget about those cleric's offering, and those nasty wizards!

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Zing wrote:

Lixiae, you fail to understand. Knowledge is higher than being the highest level. In a one on one match, a lower level rogue can destroy a higher level player.

Oh! And I'm sure I've seen lower level rogues killing seal of sun higher level players.

Can't forget about those cleric's offering, and those nasty wizards!

You fail to understand that this discussion was about legits verse bots. Not euro versus Chinese, so please dont be so pompous and arrogant as to tell me what I fail to understand.

Cloverleaf · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 488 **Location:**

1 shot your foe has nothing to do with knowledge. 1 shot him and stay alive, that is the hard part where experience pays off.

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

Since when have I said that Europeans are fighting Chinese? Assumptions aren't always the best ideal to go with conclusions.

I'm simply pointing out the options within the game that would destroy higher level players (even with "godly" gear).

Chinese's force skills will drop the enemy's attack and defense rate. Crippling the higher level to at or lower than your standards.

Cloverleaf, it's about being ready for those hard hitting attacks (knowledge). Someone without the knowledge will fall.

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Cloverleaf wrote:

1 shot your foe has nothing to do with knowledge. 1 shot him and stay alive, that is the hard part where experience pays off.

Your post has nothing to do with this discussion or anything I have said.

deep.in · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:08 pm

I agree with Lixiae. So what if your 5xlvl rogue killed lvl80 botter? Wait untill there will 100's of lvl80 bots, and you still grind for lvl up. And what about botted euros?

Bots rule every server, they will rule Venus one beautyfull day :banghead:

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Zing wrote:

Since when have I said that Europeans are fighting Chinese? Assumptions aren't always the best ideal to go with conclusions.

I'm simply pointing out the options within the game that would destroy higher level players (even with "godly" gear).

Chinese's force skills will drop the enemy's attack and defense rate. Crippling the higher level to at or lower than your standards.

Cloverleaf, it's about being ready for those hard hitting attacks (knowledge). Someone without the knowledge will fall.

ok great, what does this have to do with legits owning bots?

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Cloverleaf wrote:

1 shot your foe has nothing to do with knowledge. 1 shot him and stay alive, that is the hard part where experience pays off.

fwiw, one shotting an opponent means you kill them in one skill aka they dont hit you, not hard to survive that rofl

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

Lixiae, if you were to pay attention to my very first post, you'd have the general idea what I'm arguing for.

Your very first reply to my first post was that the game is irrelevant to what I'm saying. I disagree, so therefore I argued that what you said is wrong. Now, do you have any rebuttals against what I am saying?

Cloverleaf · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 488 **Location:**

Zing wrote:

Cloverleaf, it's about being ready for those hard hitting attacks (knowledge). Someone without the knowledge will fall.

Right. I just wanted to point out that botted wizards have the same damage as legit ones, it doesn't require player skills. The difference is that an experienced (read: legit) party won't let him die.

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

Cloverleaf, when you're a wizard, you should know that popping out and trying to kill someone with a fast 1-2 hit kills would really risk your life when/if there's a second enemy that you don't know about.

A wizard by himself is pretty risky.

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Zing wrote:

Lixiae, if you were to pay attention to my very first post, you'd have the general idea what I'm arguing for.

Your very first reply to my first post was that the game is irrelevant to what I'm saying. I disagree, so therefore I argued that what you said is wrong. Now, do you have any rebuttals against what I am saying?

Sorry what? Come out and directly say what you are saying, Im not gonna try to make sense of this nonsensical post nor go back and read a page and a half thread.

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Cloverleaf wrote:

Zing wrote:

Cloverleaf, it's about being ready for those hard hitting attacks (knowledge). Someone without the knowledge will fall.

Right. I just wanted to point out that botted wizards have the same damage as legit ones, it doesn't require player skills. The difference is that an experienced (read: legit) party won't let him die.

And I would say that people who bot arent retards. This game requires zero skill to play.

Necrobat · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:18 pm

Ok, so, you take out the cleric. Subclasses? Especially if it's a warrior with the subclass; you're gonna scratch him. Cleric comes back with Oblation (more HP, attack absorbtion), Blesses, buffs, and there goes your opposition. Why? They're not use to a tanking Int.

Now that's one of a few things. You think a botter uses Oblation? Hell no! Make myself do less damage? Get lost!

Botters about about DAMAGE. Legits are about SURVIVABILITY. You wear your opponent down, strike in a moment of weakness. You can say what you think you know about Euro parites, but until you actually partake in one above Lv40 at least, don't act all high and mighty.

You guys saying the bots will win, one, your bot support disgusts me. Two most bots are Chinese. Three, the botted Euros are idiotic, don't use their skills to their full extent and don't understand how to party as a Euro.

So please, actually play the European side before throwing off your own beliefs on it, because from seeing people's sigs on their characters you're playing Chinese. SOLO BASED. Not party based.

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

Lixiae, if you're not willing to pay attention to the opposing side's arguments, then what are you exactly doing?

Since you're asking, I'll tell you.

Quality is different from quantity.
Time spent = amount of knowledge.
And, Silkroad isn't a dumb game.

Knowledge is power.

Lixiae · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 634 **Location:**

Zing wrote:

Lixiae, if you're not willing to pay attention to the opposing side's arguments, then what are you exactly doing?

Since you're asking, I'll tell you.

Quality is different from quantity.
Time spent = amount of knowledge.
And, Silkroad isn't a dumb game.

Knowledge is power.

Ok well clearly I disagree on all those points, so lets talk about our experience levels. What level are you? How long have you played?

Necrobat · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:24 pm

Lixiae wrote:

Zing wrote:

Lixiae, if you're not willing to pay attention to the opposing side's arguments, then what are you exactly doing?

Since you're asking, I'll tell you.

Quality is different from quantity.
Time spent = amount of knowledge.
And, Silkroad isn't a dumb game.

Knowledge is power.

Ok well clearly I disagree on all those points, so lets talk about our experience levels. What level are you? How long have you played?

A person's level and time played is irrelevant. A person may be extremely low level and still understand the theory, the mechanics and execution behind many techniques and skills, as well as party planning, support planning and communication.

Casey613 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:25 pm

Necrobat wrote:

The only thing we don't have a solution for right now is the goldbots. It almost seems like they're upped the amount of them now, as I saw a new herd in DW. Whether or not they're being put in to make up for the bots we scare off, I dunno. lol

What about getting rid of the big gold buyers in Venus..?

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