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 Post subject: thiefing rogue/cleric
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:23 pm 
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can someone tell me basics what to do in thiefing with rogue/cleric ? i am used to just run around and search for hunters and traders in my chinese character ,but in euro i am pretty much dead even with cleric as sub,so any tip ? ,i say bless and recovery division then stealth then prick ,but i didn't get those skills yet ,so is it good ? and does neptune have sun holders yet ?

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 Post subject: Re: thiefing rogue/cleric
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:27 pm 
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If you don't mind us asking, what level are you and which skills have u added/got?

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 Post subject: Re: thiefing rogue/cleric
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:32 pm 
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im guessin hes around 35.
yes bless and recov division are good.
and yea thats a decent tactic, but it wont work unless uve got 100% drug of typhoon.

and from what i can conclude by myself, u musnt be very rich since uve gotten hacked like 3 times :P

guess ur kinda stuck bein slow, find a bard friend!

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 Post subject: Re: thiefing rogue/cleric
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:37 pm 
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Ah if you do not have prick yet then job war would be quite hard.

If you do ur cleric buffs+desperate dagger+speed (pot or friend's bard buff), your tactics should be hit and run since I don't think you would be able to tank much with lower lvled cleric skills.

You should aim for garment/cloth wearers and preferably without a shield as these often go down the fastest. If they have snow or fan on, simply stealth up behind them and wait for their buff to finish :)

If you find yourself in a party with many high lvls, it would probably benefit them more if you played a pure cleric role and buff/heal them from the safety of the behind the gates but if you are alone, i would suggest following the tactics I described above. ^^

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 Post subject: Re: thiefing rogue/cleric
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:38 pm 
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prick is lv 40+....
So he cant be lv 35

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 Post subject: Re: thiefing rogue/cleric
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:39 pm 
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MrFudge wrote:
im guessin hes around 35.
made a new character so its 23 now
yes bless and recov division are good.
and yea thats a decent tactic, but it wont work unless uve got 100% drug of typhoon.
y drug ?
and from what i can conclude by myself, u musnt be very rich since uve gotten hacked like 3 times :P
lol thats for sure ,i have like 0.5mil now
guess ur kinda stuck bein slow, find a bard friend!
can't i use chicken masks when i reach 30 ?

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Ah if you do not have prick yet then job war would be quite hard.

If you do ur cleric buffs+desperate dagger+speed (pot or friend's bard buff), your tactics should be hit and run since I don't think you would be able to tank much with lower lvled cleric skills.

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You should aim for garment/cloth wearers and preferably without a shield as these often go down the fastest. If they have snow or fan on, simply stealth up behind them and wait for their buff to finish :)

If you find yourself in a party with many high lvls, it would probably benefit them more if you played a pure cleric role and buff/heal them from the safety of the behind the gates but if you are alone, i would suggest following the tactics I described above. ^^

Hope my entry was helpful!
ya it is
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prick is lv 40+....
So he cant be lv 35
y not ? i am talking about future

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 Post subject: Re: thiefing rogue/cleric
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:46 pm 
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yes prick is THE skill for pvp daggers.

Many people use it as an opening skill from stealth as it hits insane damage, and more often than not, 1hit ko people.

I suggest you add all the combos as well apart from spinning. Reason: spinning hits relatively weak, does not debuff the character, and only hits twice. The combos offer bleed+ dull, prick and screw offer stun, and after using all these skills, the opponent of your lvl (and perhaps 5-10 lvls higher depending on gear) should be down.

Since you are relatively low lvl at the moment, you need speed typhoon to run away after you have destealthed and used screw/prick+combo (+perhaps one other combo).

Rogues don't really tank well, but with cleric sub, you should be able to survive a few more hits if you wish to.

Max scud: it runs 15 seconds faster, and you can stealth again if you have not been hit for 20 seconds. For that 5 seconds, you just have to run away really fast (hence speed drugs) and you can restealth if being chased.

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 Post subject: Re: thiefing rogue/cleric
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:14 pm 
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yes prick is THE skill for pvp daggers.

Many people use it as an opening skill from stealth as it hits insane damage, and more often than not, 1hit ko people.

I suggest you add all the combos as well apart from spinning. Reason: spinning hits relatively weak, does not debuff the character, and only hits twice. The combos offer bleed+ dull, prick and screw offer stun, and after using all these skills, the opponent of your lvl (and perhaps 5-10 lvls higher depending on gear) should be down.

Since you are relatively low lvl at the moment, you need speed typhoon to run away after you have destealthed and used screw/prick+combo (+perhaps one other combo).

Rogues don't really tank well, but with cleric sub, you should be able to survive a few more hits if you wish to.

Max scud: it runs 15 seconds faster, and you can stealth again if you have not been hit for 20 seconds. For that 5 seconds, you just have to run away really fast (hence speed drugs) and you can restealth if being chased.

thnx ,one more question can i kill a trader and hunter at same time ,near my level ? with buffs ,etc ,at lvl44 when i get prick(gapping) ?

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 Post subject: Re: thiefing rogue/cleric
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With stealth+prick+combo, you should be able to take out anyone your own level with the element of surprise.

If your question means hunter+trader at the same time, where its 2v1, I think that it should still be fine.

Perhaps dagger might not work as its close ranged and they would hurt you. Instead you could take them out with xbow and snipe them down 1 by 1.

With xtreme xbow, you should be able to 1-2 skill each of them and that would take two down. I normally aim for the strongest one first as you need to use the element of surprise to the max and take out the core opponent.

However, with 3+ opponents of same level, I think it would be quite a lot harder and I would suggest having a party =p

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 Post subject: Re: thiefing rogue/cleric
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can't have xbow cuz of my sp "1" i am gapping cuz of that ,i have dagger and cleric only

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 Post subject: Re: thiefing rogue/cleric
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:49 pm 
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i see i see.

Well, in my experience, when it is 2 v 1, xbow is usually the most effective way of killing.

When 1v1, i find that dagger is a winner.

Perhaps with your cleric buffs you can tank two+ people in which case, you can kill both with daggers, you should try it out and let us know :) i never jobbed with my rogue before lvl 6x and even then, i found it quite challenging..but fun!

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