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wich should my brotehr become
Rogue/Warlock 17%  17%  [ 3 ]
Rogue/Bard 33%  33%  [ 6 ]
Rogue/Cleric 44%  44%  [ 8 ]
Rogue/Warrior 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Rogue/Other 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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 Post subject: Rogues/ what?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:03 pm 
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Ok what should a rogue be? my brother started playing this game and he wants to be an amazing rogue for pvp based what should his subclass become? Bard? Warrior? or what? and send me link to a guide cos i could not find any rogue guide ty


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:52 pm 
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Rogues should take bard as subclass
- for moving speed
- for noise (the agro mobs wont attack you)

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Theres quite a few rogue guides. This is just one of them:
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:10 pm 
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Well i'm not claiming this as a good build what from what i've seen on my server rogue cleric is pretty good pays off too b/c alot of people will let you in there parties at generals and such and all yea gotta do is buff them, but stick to guides lol :D

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Do crossbow rouge lvl 80 with 2h warrior at lvl 80 and maxed. You could basically be a wiz and tank all in the same char. :O

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 Post subject: Re: Rogues/ what?
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would rogue/warlock work? cos it looks very oofeensive to me fast kils in little time looks like it bring out rogues true killing potential

but what would rogue/bard dp to help a rogue?


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but what would rogue/bard dp to help a rogue?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:50 pm 
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Please don't double post. Image your last post. :)

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I would go rogue/cleric, rogue/warlock would just be over kill at the expense of defense, immunity, better healing ability, and better soloing and party ability

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noobert mclagg wrote:
I would go rogue/cleric, rogue/warlock would just be over kill at the expense of defense, immunity, better healing ability, and better soloing and party ability

but woudnlt warlock be able to stun him and vampire toch him and ect?
so he would have the defence oof stun and the hp of vampire touch plus delay pots?


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rogue/warlock kills the ability to stealth. by the time you debuff your opponent you're dead.

and warlock doesnt have much buff that stays when you switch weapon, i think only 1 that you get at 80.

So yeah I would go with bard or cleric. bard if you solo a lot and cleric for party play.


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You_Dead_Yet wrote:
rogue/warlock kills the ability to stealth. by the time you debuff your opponent you're dead.

and warlock doesnt have much buff that stays when you switch weapon, i think only 1 that you get at 80.

So yeah I would go with bard or cleric. bard if you solo a lot and cleric for party play.

ok ty for the information the abrd for solo and cleric for party thing was very helpful might aswell choose rogue/bard for the speed ty man :D


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Bard is a horrible subclass for a rouge, so is warrior.

Cleric is about the only way to go.
Recovery division is amazing for the rouge, it helps sooo much in PvP.
Who cares about speed - while grinding you can just stand in one place and bring mobs TO you with xbow.
In PvP or jobbing, instead of wasting so much SP on a bard subclass just for speed - buy moving speed scrolls or moving potions at the shop.
Cleric is so much better than bard for a rouge.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:36 am 
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somenoob wrote:
Bard is a horrible subclass for a rouge, so is warrior.

Cleric is about the only way to go.
Recovery division is amazing for the rouge, it helps sooo much in PvP.
Who cares about speed - while grinding you can just stand in one place and bring mobs TO you with xbow.
In PvP or jobbing, instead of wasting so much SP on a bard subclass just for speed - buy moving speed scrolls or moving potions at the shop.
Cleric is so much better than bard for a rouge.


Bard still have it benifits.

At 90 cap the 100% moving speed increase will be much even for chinese. Not many want to waste gold on scroll (100% increase scroll cost a lot). And the speed boost stays when you stealth.

If you dont party play a lot, if you talk only of grinding, bard is much better than cleric. With noise, healing skills and bless isnt even useful.


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Rogue/cleric looks good cuz rogue take some damage when they use daggers (they got a lot of aggro) then u can heal urself

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this topic has been discussed many times and the general concensus is the top 3 would be sub warrior, sub bard, and sub cleric. however many find warrior brings little to the table besides the skin and heavy armor, and bard for only march, noise and the bind. while cleric has the "auto pot", bless, heaven glare, and a few others. so the three would be your best picks but personally id choose cleric as well


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