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Post subject: MorningDrew answers! Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:28 pm |
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Quote: Posted: 21 Jun 2007 01:42 am Post subject: Morningdews Reply -
I. SERVERS ARE FULL
This is a good thing. Whether the users playing are following the rules or not does not matter, they are playing and keeping the game servers full, which is what we want. We are not all here to judge users based on there actions, but we will moderate and keep users following the rules like always, but we can not just judge all users and ban them day 1 when the servers are full for someone elses convenience. Not everyone can play at once but we are working on improving the server quality and limit constantly, but remember there will always be times when it will be hard to connect or to laggy to play.
II. GOLD BOTS
Gold Bots still exist because people are paying for their services, if you want them gone do not promote them, do not purchase there services, ignore them. We are still working out a way to get rid of them from the game though, we do not want the game economy to go down the drain.
III. SPAMMERS
All users are spamming in game for several reason, even on the forums when users bump their posts and request the same thing over and over again. All we can do is moderate the community and keep it down over time. New programs to limit spam in game will take time, but if you have a suggestion please post it in the Player Suggestion section.
IV. DISCONNECTING
Random players are not disconnected, a variety of users in game with silk, without silk, afk, active have complained about disconnecting while others have never had the problem. This system is balanced and works for the benefit of all users not just PT ones. Do not tell me you are dcing every 5 mins?
V. PLAYER BOTS
We are working on balancing the amount of users taking advantage of Bot programs in game on top of our monthly Bot bans.
VI. EVENTS
The Easter event was skipped this year but we did not fail to try and entertain our users best we could. More events will be coming in the future especially new ones.
VII. PRICES
There is always a choice, don’t bot, don’t buy gold, do what is right and we will too. Leave the rest to time and honest playing to get the prices back down.
VIII. GMs
Our GMs go in game to take care of the Bots and check for in game issues within the community. We are there and working hard for you, sorry we have not been visible as much as users wanted, but hopefully we can change that in the future.
IX. SILK
Silk is a necessity to keep the game running and we will continue to improve the quality of the game to satisfy users who wish to support SRO. Hopefully we can change your mind sometime down the road.
This will not be a sticky, but if you want to add this to player suggestions with more detail on the suggestions, I would be happy to sticky it their.
Last thing please users limit your spam on the forums and in game as well the crude language, there is always an alternative, always a choice.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:31 pm |
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Thats nice.
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Post subject: Re: MorningDrew answers! Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:35 pm |
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Deacon wrote: Quote: Posted: 21 Jun 2007 01:42 am Post subject: Morningdews Reply -
III. SPAMMERS
All users are spamming in game for several reason, even on the forums when users bump their posts and request the same thing over and over again. All we can do is moderate the community and keep it down over time. New programs to limit spam in game will take time, but if you have a suggestion please post it in the Player Suggestion section.
Well this just STINKS -.- Stupid bullcrap
I like how she essentially grouped everyone trying to buy/sell something in the towns in with the spambots that constantly tell everyone to buy gold. 
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Post subject: Re: MorningDrew answers! Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:35 pm |
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Deacon wrote: Quote: Posted: 21 Jun 2007 01:42 am Post subject: Morningdews Reply -
I. SERVERS ARE FULL
This is a good thing. Whether the users playing are following the rules or not does not matter, they are playing and keeping the game servers full, which is what we want. We are not all here to judge users based on there actions, but we will moderate and keep users following the rules like always, but we can not just judge all users and ban them day 1 when the servers are full for someone elses convenience. Not everyone can play at once but we are working on improving the server quality and limit constantly, but remember there will always be times when it will be hard to connect or to laggy to play.
OMG are you f**king kidding me with this bullshit so basicly they dont care if 60%+ of a server is full of bots as long as its full.... Quote: We are not all here to judge users based on there actions no shit your not because you dont and according to this you wont do anything about bots Quote: but we are working on improving the server quality and limit constantly
WTF...no your not...not at all, in the past year they could of solved this problem by downing and upgrading the servers... 1 maybe 2 weeks worth of work max. but instead we get a new server every other month and it just adds to the problem.
Its things like this that show how little JM give a shit about us
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:40 pm |
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i support JM 100% if they didn't know what they were doing this game wouldn't be here. And yes i buy silk if you couldn't get that from my post lol
ADD: if you dont like the game just stop playing it lol its really that simple
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:45 pm |
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chesticles wrote: i support JM 100% if they didn't know what they were doing this game wouldn't be here. And yes i buy silk if you couldn't get that from my post lol
ADD: if you dont like the game just stop playing it lol its really that simple
lol i do buy silk and i have a PT...and i expect a lot more then this...like how for the last 1 1/2 years i have had to put up with the same tired and old lame excuses about the server sizes (yet there ok with making more servers to attract more players )...and their so called war on bots (as long as they buy silk its ok ).
yes i know like all companies they want to make money but you dont see Blizzard or GW treating their customers/players like shit now do you?
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:47 pm |
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satman83 wrote: chesticles wrote: i support JM 100% if they didn't know what they were doing this game wouldn't be here. And yes i buy silk if you couldn't get that from my post lol
ADD: if you dont like the game just stop playing it lol its really that simple lol i do buy silk and i have a PT...and i expect a lot more then this...like how for the last 1 1/2 years i have had to put up with the same tired and old lame excuses about the server sizes (yet there ok with making more servers to attract more players )...and their so called war on bots (as long as they buy silk its ok ).
yes i know like all companies they want to make money but you dont see Blizzard or GW treating their customers/players like shit now do you?
i disagree. they're not treating their customers like shit. if they were then i would be playing another game. ill admit that customer service isnt 100% but i strongly disagree that we are being treated like shit
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:47 pm |
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morning dew only responded because he got tired of watching the thread be bbumped up 20,000 times.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:48 pm |
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You guys do realize shes just doing her job right? I mean shes doing what her boss or w/e she has tells all of them to do. Either way she answers to Korea
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:50 pm |
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Sharp324 wrote: You guys do realize shes just doing her job right? I mean shes doing what her boss or w/e she has tells all of them to do. Either way she answers to Korea
yep everyone blames them but its the big names at Korea that call the shots
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:52 pm |
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Quote: II. GOLD BOTS
Gold Bots still exist because people are paying for their services, if you want them gone do not promote them, do not purchase there services, ignore them. We are still working out a way to get rid of them from the game though, we do not want the game economy to go down the drain.
she is so right. we're the ones to blame for the gold bots.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:53 pm |
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chesticles wrote: Sharp324 wrote: You guys do realize shes just doing her job right? I mean shes doing what her boss or w/e she has tells all of them to do. Either way she answers to Korea yep everyone blames them but its the big names at Korea that call the shots
lol i know....hence i keep refering to "JM" (i.e. Joymax) i know the game mods are just doing their jobs and i cant blame them for that. but i can blame JM...a company that basicly ignores what we say and what we want.
and thats true, what ever we ask for we get the opposite or nothing at all. i mean compare ISRO to the other SRO and you can see what i mean
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:56 pm |
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Joymax needs a new spokesperson imo.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:57 pm |
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satman83 wrote: chesticles wrote: Sharp324 wrote: You guys do realize shes just doing her job right? I mean shes doing what her boss or w/e she has tells all of them to do. Either way she answers to Korea yep everyone blames them but its the big names at Korea that call the shots lol i know....hence i keep refering to "JM" (i.e. Joymax) i know the game mods are just doing their jobs and i cant blame them for that. but i can blame JM...a company that basicly ignores what we say and what we want.
and thats true, what ever we ask for we get the opposite or nothing at all. i mean compare ISRO to the other SRO and you can see what i mean
the other sro's except kSRO are not operated by JM thats why
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:59 pm |
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chesticles wrote: satman83 wrote: chesticles wrote: Sharp324 wrote: You guys do realize shes just doing her job right? I mean shes doing what her boss or w/e she has tells all of them to do. Either way she answers to Korea yep everyone blames them but its the big names at Korea that call the shots lol i know....hence i keep refering to "JM" (i.e. Joymax) i know the game mods are just doing their jobs and i cant blame them for that. but i can blame JM...a company that basicly ignores what we say and what we want.
and thats true, what ever we ask for we get the opposite or nothing at all. i mean compare ISRO to the other SRO and you can see what i meanthe other sro's except kSRO are not operated by JM thats why
ummm no they are, their just sponsored by other companies
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:01 pm |
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satman83 wrote: chesticles wrote: satman83 wrote: chesticles wrote: Sharp324 wrote: You guys do realize shes just doing her job right? I mean shes doing what her boss or w/e she has tells all of them to do. Either way she answers to Korea yep everyone blames them but its the big names at Korea that call the shots lol i know....hence i keep refering to "JM" (i.e. Joymax) i know the game mods are just doing their jobs and i cant blame them for that. but i can blame JM...a company that basicly ignores what we say and what we want.
and thats true, what ever we ask for we get the opposite or nothing at all. i mean compare ISRO to the other SRO and you can see what i meanthe other sro's except kSRO are not operated by JM thats why ummm no they are, their just sponsored by other companies
yes and the sponsors decide when to release what content and what content to realease. MD said this a while back i dont have the post sorry.
BTW: thank you for a civilized argument and not a flame fest 
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Post subject: Re: MorningDrew answers! Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:07 pm |
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Quote: IX. SILK
Silk is a necessity to keep the game running and we will continue to improve the quality of the game to satisfy users who wish to support SRO. Hopefully we can change your mind sometime down the road.
wow. pay to play
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:10 pm |
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chesticles wrote: BTW: thank you for a civilized argument and not a flame fest 
Yes indeed. I had a vision of this thread going down a very rocky road, lol
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Post subject: Re: MorningDrew answers! Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:15 pm |
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LadyB wrote: Quote: IX. SILK
Silk is a necessity to keep the game running and we will continue to improve the quality of the game to satisfy users who wish to support SRO. Hopefully we can change your mind sometime down the road.
wow. pay to play
what s/he said is this: they need silk buyers for the game to stay F2P . so all of us, i say us because i buy silk, keep it F2P for all of you, i say you meaning the non-silk buyers. All s/he said is that the more silk buyers the better the game CAN be
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:16 pm |
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EllisD wrote: chesticles wrote: BTW: thank you for a civilized argument and not a flame fest  Yes indeed. I had a vision of this thread going down a very rocky road, lol
lol...why would it , i mean were all mature people here having a civilised discussion
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:16 pm |
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Quote: There is always a choice, don’t bot, don’t buy gold, do what is right and we will too. Leave the rest to time and honest playing to get the prices back down.
that is probelly the smartest thing i have ever read dont matter from what company you hear that from that is truely smart answer espeshially when so many of their players are hypocrits and bot and buy gold then complain joymax dont do nothing
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Post subject: Re: MorningDrew answers! Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:19 pm |
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chesticles wrote: LadyB wrote: Quote: IX. SILK
Silk is a necessity to keep the game running and we will continue to improve the quality of the game to satisfy users who wish to support SRO. Hopefully we can change your mind sometime down the road.
wow. pay to play what s/he said is this: they need silk buyers for the game to stay F2P . so all of us, i say us because i buy silk, keep it F2P for all of you, i say you meaning the non-silk buyers. All s/he said is that the more silk buyers the better the game CAN be
i got a different implication
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Post subject: Re: MorningDrew answers! Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:26 pm |
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Quote: IV. DISCONNECTING
Random players are not disconnected, a variety of users in game with silk, without silk, afk, active have complained about disconnecting while others have never had the problem. This system is balanced and works for the benefit of all users not just PT ones. Do not tell me you are dcing every 5 mins?
This actually makes me feel good. Now I know why I'm getting disconnected, and frankly, I don't have a problem with it. Random dc's keep the game going! The game will automatically disconnect someone if I want to play  And I guess it disconnects inactive people more than actives, because sometimes I'll get dced if I'm doing nothing, but I hardly get dced when I'm doing something. And now, when I get dced while fighting, I usually don't die, so that's nice. It sucked when EVERY time you dced, you'd come back and be dead. Quote: V. PLAYER BOTS
We are working on balancing the amount of users taking advantage of Bot programs in game on top of our monthly Bot bans. This makes me feel uneasy "Balancing the ammount of users"... That means they're purposely not banning all of them, they only ban some. That's gay. Quote: VI. EVENTS
The Easter event was skipped this year but we did not fail to try and entertain our users best we could. More events will be coming in the future especially new ones. Obviously true with this huge update coming Quote: VIII. GMs
Our GMs go in game to take care of the Bots and check for in game issues within the community. We are there and working hard for you, sorry we have not been visible as much as users wanted, but hopefully we can change that in the future. I look foreward to a future where you get to see gm's in game again  Quote: IX. SILK
Silk is a necessity to keep the game running and we will continue to improve the quality of the game to satisfy users who wish to support SRO. Hopefully we can change your mind sometime down the road.
Obviously silk is a necessity, but what does morningde mean "Hopefully we can change your mind sometime down the road."? Change our mind about what???
Thanks for posting
Why do they want the servers to be full all the time though? That's weird...
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Post subject: Re: MorningDrew answers! Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:27 pm |
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[SD]Rainigul wrote: Quote: IV. DISCONNECTING
Random players are not disconnected, a variety of users in game with silk, without silk, afk, active have complained about disconnecting while others have never had the problem. This system is balanced and works for the benefit of all users not just PT ones. Do not tell me you are dcing every 5 mins?
This actually makes me feel good. Now I know why I'm getting disconnected, and frankly, I don't have a problem with it. Random dc's keep the game going! The game will automatically disconnect someone if I want to play  And I guess it disconnects inactive people more than actives, because sometimes I'll get dced if I'm doing nothing, but I hardly get dced when I'm doing something. And now, when I get dced while fighting, I usually don't die, so that's nice. It sucked when EVERY time you dced, you'd come back and be dead. Quote: V. PLAYER BOTS
We are working on balancing the amount of users taking advantage of Bot programs in game on top of our monthly Bot bans. This makes me feel uneasy "Balancing the ammount of users"... That means they're purposely not banning all of them, they only ban some. That's gay. Quote: VI. EVENTS
The Easter event was skipped this year but we did not fail to try and entertain our users best we could. More events will be coming in the future especially new ones. Obviously true with this huge update coming Quote: VIII. GMs
Our GMs go in game to take care of the Bots and check for in game issues within the community. We are there and working hard for you, sorry we have not been visible as much as users wanted, but hopefully we can change that in the future. I look foreward to a future where you get to see gm's in game again  Quote: IX. SILK
Silk is a necessity to keep the game running and we will continue to improve the quality of the game to satisfy users who wish to support SRO. Hopefully we can change your mind sometime down the road.
Obviously silk is a necessity, but what does morningde mean "Hopefully we can change your mind sometime down the road."? Change our mind about what??? Thanks for posting  Why do they want the servers to be full all the time though? That's weird...
yea thats what i thought too. change our minds?
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:29 pm |
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Quote: V. PLAYER BOTS
We are working on balancing the amount of users taking advantage of Bot programs in game on top of our monthly Bot bans.
This makes me feel uneasy "Balancing the ammount of users"... That means they're purposely not banning all of them, they only ban some. That's gay.
i had a feeling someone would say something about this. no comment on that matter it will turn the thread to a flame fest
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chesticles wrote: Quote: V. PLAYER BOTS
We are working on balancing the amount of users taking advantage of Bot programs in game on top of our monthly Bot bans.
This makes me feel uneasy "Balancing the ammount of users"... That means they're purposely not banning all of them, they only ban some. That's gay.
i had a feeling someone would say something about this. no comment on that matter it will turn the thread to a flame fest
Yeah that sux hard.  They should try to ban them all.
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[SD]Master_Wong wrote: Quote: There is always a choice, don’t bot, don’t buy gold, do what is right and we will too. Leave the rest to time and honest playing to get the prices back down. that is probelly the smartest thing i have ever read dont matter from what company you hear that from that is truely smart answer espeshially when so many of their players are hypocrits and bot and buy gold then complain joymax dont do nothing
Reminded me of FFX lol.
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Crumpets wrote: [SD]Master_Wong wrote: Quote: There is always a choice, don’t bot, don’t buy gold, do what is right and we will too. Leave the rest to time and honest playing to get the prices back down. that is probelly the smartest thing i have ever read dont matter from what company you hear that from that is truely smart answer espeshially when so many of their players are hypocrits and bot and buy gold then complain joymax dont do nothing Reminded me of FFX lol.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:52 pm |
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LadyB wrote: Crumpets wrote: [SD]Master_Wong wrote: Quote: There is always a choice, don’t bot, don’t buy gold, do what is right and we will too. Leave the rest to time and honest playing to get the prices back down. that is probelly the smartest thing i have ever read dont matter from what company you hear that from that is truely smart answer espeshially when so many of their players are hypocrits and bot and buy gold then complain joymax dont do nothing Reminded me of FFX lol. :O FINAL FANTASY X??.. I LOVE THAT GAME
Quickly fired up the game and realized I meant FFX-2 ....
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[SD]Master_Wong wrote: Quote: There is always a choice, don’t bot, don’t buy gold, do what is right and we will too. Leave the rest to time and honest playing to get the prices back down. that is probelly the smartest thing i have ever read dont matter from what company you hear that from that is truely smart answer espeshially when so many of their players are hypocrits and bot and buy gold then complain joymax dont do nothing
You're saying we all buy gold and bot?
Well I see you didn't use the word 'all', but why should we all be punished for what others do? There will always be people who bot and buy gold, and there will always be people that don't. Those that don't should not have to be treated like they do.
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