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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:55 am |
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How is his dream? Give your thought.
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:58 am |
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NuclearSilo wrote: How is his dream? Give your thought. how can he make a difference between day and night? he might not even know he's dreaming 
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:01 am |
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He can call himself lucky for being born blind, instead of having experienced how it feels to see and then become blind. Ofcourse he isn't that lucky afterall: he's still blind 
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:02 am |
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You can still dream. Its not like you physically "see" what you dream, dreams are just interpretations of our sub-conscious. Though with that said if he cant see he wouldn't be able to produce images in his sub-conscious...
Maybe he just hears sounds?
good thread is good.
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:34 am |
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idk i think best way to find out is ask a blind person, i don't think we can really say anything about it tbh.
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:15 pm |
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Not sure,but you don't need eyesight to dream,the only physical manifestation of a dream might be R.E.M movement. But like i said,i am not to sure about that..
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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:19 pm |
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i wish they develop a image catcher machine then transmit the images to someone's brain 
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Skayunor
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:49 pm |
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Most likely they dream of real feelings, pain, relaxation as in when getting a massage, dizziness, or feelings like those you have in a rollercoaster/airplane. I don't know if everything in their dreams remains black though, or whatever "colour" it is they normally see.
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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:54 pm |
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Even if they cant see colour, but they can feel the shape of an object (with hands), no? So using imagination, they can construct their own world in black and white?
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heroo
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:56 pm |
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don't forget they still have sound.
do you think they dream about sounds?
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fangyuan
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:12 pm |
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You don't need eyes to dream, all you need is imagination.
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Priam
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:28 pm |
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fangyuan wrote: You don't need eyes to dream, all you need is imagination. Correct. He might not dream about physical things we might encounter on a daily basis, perhaps he just dreams about various shapes and sizes, or about objects his imagination created from hearing sounds.
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:39 pm |
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Found that quote from a page.. Quote: I've been totally blind since birth. I don't see in my dreams, but I know what's happening in them the same way as I know what's happening around me when I'm awake. Through my other senses.
If you mean the physical appearence of someone then I can tell how tall they are, or how big/small they are by listening to them and. I concentrate a lot more on what a person is like though instead of what they look like. Looks doesn't matter. It's what the person is like on the inside that really counts.
Of course when you get close enough to someone you come into contact with their bodies and can tell a lot more about how they look by touching them. They can also describe how they look or someone else can. also The Dreams of Blind Men and Women: A Replication and Extension of Previous Findings http://www.dreamresearch.net/Library/hu ... 1999a.html
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Da_Realest
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:15 pm |
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When a mental image is formed, it is not just the eyes that played a part in the construction of the image. The other senses play a part as well. They play a much stronger role in a blind person.
When a normal person with sight draws, they rely mostly on what the image looked like to draw the image.
When a blind person draws, they recall what the object felt like, etc., stimulating their visual cortex allowing them to draw.
Take Esref Armagan for example. He has been blind from birth. These are a few paintings by him.




I'm pretty he has visual dreams.
Don't you salivate a bit more just by imagining something delicious you would like to eat and can practically taste it? Don't you smell it even though it is not there for you to smell? Have you tried tasting food without being able to smell it?
My point is, one sense does not do all the work and in most cases, multiple senses are needed to perceive something.
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heroo
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:59 pm |
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wow, if you're blind and still able to make drawings like those, respect.
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Skayunor
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:31 pm |
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Those drawings are amazing!
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selenne
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:37 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: How is his dream? Give your thought. THX GOD SOMEBODY IN THE WORLD HAS DA SAME DOUBT. thought i was the only one. and: how does he know colors, how big are trees, or how montains look like? theres no way to "feel it".
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XemnasXD
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:41 pm |
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Skayunor wrote: Those drawings are amazing! for a blind person.... but yeah, not being able to see probably just means you have a more vivid imagination....
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Rainigul
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Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:00 pm |
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Skayunor wrote: Those drawings are amazing! I agree, they're great! I really love the clown and bill clinton one 
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