Silkroad Online Forums

A community forum for the free online game Silkroad Online. Discuss Silkroad Online, read up on guides, and build your character and skills.

Faq Search Members Chat  Register Profile Login

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:55 am 
Forum God
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8834
Location: Age of Wushu
How is his dream?
Give your thought.

_________________
Playing Age of Wushu, dota IMBA


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:58 am 
Senior Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4787
Location:
Venus
NuclearSilo wrote:
How is his dream?
Give your thought.


how can he make a difference between day and night? he might not even know he's dreaming :(

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:01 am 
Forum Legend
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6618
Location:
Off Topic
He can call himself lucky for being born blind, instead of having experienced how it feels to see and then become blind.

Ofcourse he isn't that lucky afterall: he's still blind :(

_________________
''When I die, make sure they bury me upside down, so that the world can kiss my ass.''


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:02 am 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3657
Location: MrTwilligers skin
You can still dream. Its not like you physically "see" what you dream, dreams are just interpretations of our sub-conscious. Though with that said if he cant see he wouldn't be able to produce images in his sub-conscious...

Maybe he just hears sounds?

good thread is good.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:34 am 
idk i think best way to find out is ask a blind person,
i don't think we can really say anything about it tbh.


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:15 pm 
Elite Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5136
Location: Final Fantasy Versus 13.
Not sure,but you don't need eyesight to dream,the only physical manifestation of a dream might be R.E.M movement. But like i said,i am not to sure about that..

_________________
Bmw 6 Series owner. Bleach fan. Music Fan.
Image Reise for Mod.
~ Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable..


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:19 pm 
Forum God
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8834
Location: Age of Wushu
i wish they develop a image catcher machine then transmit the images to someone's brain :)

_________________
Playing Age of Wushu, dota IMBA


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:49 pm 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 241
Location: Far to the south.
Most likely they dream of real feelings, pain, relaxation as in when getting a massage, dizziness, or feelings like those you have in a rollercoaster/airplane.
I don't know if everything in their dreams remains black though, or whatever "colour" it is they normally see.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:54 pm 
Forum God
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8834
Location: Age of Wushu
Even if they cant see colour, but they can feel the shape of an object (with hands), no? So using imagination, they can construct their own world in black and white?

_________________
Playing Age of Wushu, dota IMBA


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:56 pm 
Forum Legend
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6618
Location:
Off Topic
don't forget they still have sound.

do you think they dream about sounds?

_________________
''When I die, make sure they bury me upside down, so that the world can kiss my ass.''


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:12 pm 
Common Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 120
Location: Internet
You don't need eyes to dream, all you need is imagination.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:28 pm 
Forum Legend
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7885
Location: At the apple store, Cause i'm an iAddict.
fangyuan wrote:
You don't need eyes to dream, all you need is imagination.


Correct.

He might not dream about physical things we might encounter on a daily basis, perhaps he just dreams about various shapes and sizes, or about objects his imagination created from hearing sounds.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:39 pm 
Forum Legend
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 7923
Location:
Off Topic
Found that quote from a page..

Quote:
I've been totally blind since birth. I don't see in my dreams, but I know what's happening in them the same way as I know what's happening around me when I'm awake. Through my other senses.

If you mean the physical appearence of someone then I can tell how tall they are, or how big/small they are by listening to them and. I concentrate a lot more on what a person is like though instead of what they look like. Looks doesn't matter. It's what the person is like on the inside that really counts.

Of course when you get close enough to someone you come into contact with their bodies and can tell a lot more about how they look by touching them. They can also describe how they look or someone else can.


also
The Dreams of Blind Men and Women: A Replication and Extension of Previous Findings
http://www.dreamresearch.net/Library/hu ... 1999a.html

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:15 pm 
Advanced Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2435
Location:
Off Topic
When a mental image is formed, it is not just the eyes that played a part in the construction of the image. The other senses play a part as well. They play a much stronger role in a blind person.

When a normal person with sight draws, they rely mostly on what the image looked like to draw the image.

When a blind person draws, they recall what the object felt like, etc., stimulating their visual cortex allowing them to draw.

Take Esref Armagan for example. He has been blind from birth. These are a few paintings by him.

Image
Image
Image
Image

I'm pretty he has visual dreams.

Don't you salivate a bit more just by imagining something delicious you would like to eat and can practically taste it? Don't you smell it even though it is not there for you to smell? Have you tried tasting food without being able to smell it?

My point is, one sense does not do all the work and in most cases, multiple senses are needed to perceive something.

_________________
Ziegfried wrote:
What you do or say in any game is a small extension of who you really are. It's the anonymity that can allow them to show their true self, or who they would be if there was no "penalty" for their actions.


Last edited by Da_Realest on Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:59 pm 
Forum Legend
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6618
Location:
Off Topic
wow, if you're blind and still able to make drawings like those, respect.

_________________
''When I die, make sure they bury me upside down, so that the world can kiss my ass.''


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:31 pm 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 241
Location: Far to the south.
Those drawings are amazing!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:37 pm 
Frequent Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1176
Location:
Olympus
NuclearSilo wrote:
How is his dream?
Give your thought.



THX GOD SOMEBODY IN THE WORLD HAS DA SAME DOUBT.

thought i was the only one.




and: how does he know colors, how big are trees, or how montains look like? theres no way to "feel it".

_________________
Looking for the perfect MMORPG.




While i don't find:
VINDICTUS - Kalkin - lvl 30 Lann - West Server


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:41 pm 
Chronicle Writer
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 9841
Location: US - Illidan
Skayunor wrote:
Those drawings are amazing!


for a blind person....

but yeah, not being able to see probably just means you have a more vivid imagination....

_________________
Image Image
signatures by Hostage Co. <3
~PoP is DEAD! My sTyLe is Supa-Flat!!~


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Blind person from birth
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:00 pm 
Senior Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4490
Location:
Pacific
Skayunor wrote:
Those drawings are amazing!


I agree, they're great! I really love the clown and bill clinton one :P


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group