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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:58 pm 
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hes gonna + it later i think


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I would be too scary to use stones at that shield,not even 10%. :P


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..... str int or wat ever, i wont touch that shield with any stone, just try to +7

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Br on shields, same as crit on weapons is a load of bullshit.

I seen br 12 shields block more attacks over a weeks period than a bloody br 19+

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Why is it that when any high Lv player finds some kind of awsome equip it's +4 faster than i can say *ding* :(

I took me so many elixirs to +4 my farming bows, glavies and all the other sos i've ever had and sold. Is there some kind of secret your all not telling us. :P

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Br on shields, same as crit on weapons is a load of bullshit.

I seen br 12 shields block more attacks over a weeks period than a bloody br 19+


um?

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Why is it that when any high Lv player finds some kind of awsome equip it's +4 faster than i can say *ding* :(

I took me so many elixirs to +4 my farming bows, glavies and all the other sos i've ever had and sold. Is there some kind of secret your all not telling us. :P


well, you put the item in the window, then you put the lixer in, make sure its the right one, then you put a lucky powder in, then you hit "fuse". and it will go +1. then you repeat until it says +4.

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PsYch008 wrote:
Matsuko wrote:
Why is it that when any high Lv player finds some kind of awsome equip it's +4 faster than i can say *ding* :(

I took me so many elixirs to +4 my farming bows, glavies and all the other sos i've ever had and sold. Is there some kind of secret your all not telling us. :P


well, you put the item in the window, then you put the lixer in, make sure its the right one, then you put a lucky powder in, then you hit "fuse". and it will go +1. then you repeat until it says +4.


And in this case its a shield. Shield elixirs are ummm...CHEAP :D

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PsYch008 wrote:
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Br on shields, same as crit on weapons is a load of bullshit.

I seen br 12 shields block more attacks over a weeks period than a bloody br 19+


um?


What um? kinda obviosu what I said.

Let me re-phrase it.

BR 12 CAN BLOCK AS MUCH AS A BR 20 IT'S JUST A NUMBER.

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PsYch008 wrote:
Matsuko wrote:
Why is it that when any high Lv player finds some kind of awsome equip it's +4 faster than i can say *ding* :(

I took me so many elixirs to +4 my farming bows, glavies and all the other sos i've ever had and sold. Is there some kind of secret your all not telling us. :P


well, you put the item in the window, then you put the lixer in, make sure its the right one, then you put a lucky powder in, then you hit "fuse". and it will go +1. then you repeat until it says +4.


Dam man, never knew this was possible :oops: gotta go ruin my life at alchemy "xD

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Plus44 wrote:
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Br on shields, same as crit on weapons is a load of bullshit.

I seen br 12 shields block more attacks over a weeks period than a bloody br 19+


um?


What um? kinda obviosu what I said.

Let me re-phrase it.

BR 12 CAN BLOCK AS MUCH AS A BR 20 IT'S JUST A NUMBER.


Yea, it seems that the things that determine the value the most, as in high br and crit like you said, are just gimmicks. I also believe its all random like everything in this game. You could try to figure an equation to say that a br 20 shield has a 30% higher chance than blocking a hit than your 12br shield, yet it all comes down to the roll of the dice everytime.

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What Plus said...my br 12 lvl 68 shield is as leet as they get. I blocked 5 knockdowns in a row with it once


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If a million people all flip a penny ten times, some of those people are going to get nothing but heads. If they believe they have a magic penny, they are morons.

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O...M...G... :shock:

btw, why would u block out ur name if it display u in a stall with other uncrossed names
theres 1/4 chance of getting ur name lol not that it matters


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Must add, even the owner ' Tia ' says in stall it blocks like a piece of wet shit.

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If a million people all flip a penny ten times, some of those people are going to get nothing but heads. If they believe they have a magic penny, they are morons.


ROFL...a man hasn't spoken more true.

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He blocked out his name cuz he is banned at this forum.
Thats all I'm gunna say.

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If a million people all flip a penny ten times, some of those people are going to get nothing but heads. If they believe they have a magic penny, they are morons.



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If a million people all flip a penny ten times, some of those people are going to get nothing but heads. If they believe they have a magic penny, they are morons.

rofl :D

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Plus44 wrote:
PsYch008 wrote:
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Br on shields, same as crit on weapons is a load of bullshit.

I seen br 12 shields block more attacks over a weeks period than a bloody br 19+


um?


What um? kinda obviosu what I said.

Let me re-phrase it.

BR 12 CAN BLOCK AS MUCH AS A BR 20 IT'S JUST A NUMBER.


Perhaps that's because the weapon that was hitting the shield had a high Blocking ratio (the same with the crit, maybe the shield, if there is one, has a high Critical value).

I'd say it's pretty random from time to time but over a large time span the shield with the higher BR will probably block more.


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Plus44 wrote:
PsYch008 wrote:
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Br on shields, same as crit on weapons is a load of bullshit.

I seen br 12 shields block more attacks over a weeks period than a bloody br 19+


um?


What um? kinda obviosu what I said.

Let me re-phrase it.

BR 12 CAN BLOCK AS MUCH AS A BR 20 IT'S JUST A NUMBER.


omg so true I found a br 19 shield, went to use it, and for like 10 mins it didnt block SHIT.....

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Plus44 wrote:
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Br on shields, same as crit on weapons is a load of bullshit.

I seen br 12 shields block more attacks over a weeks period than a bloody br 19+


um?


What um? kinda obviosu what I said.

Let me re-phrase it.

BR 12 CAN BLOCK AS MUCH AS A BR 20 IT'S JUST A NUMBER.


Carefully read the word "can".
Luckily (or unluckily) chances do not look at their past.
They stay the same.
EG if you throw head 5times in a row, you'll still have a 50% (if it's an honest coin) chance to throw head.
Extrapolating it to the game world and block.
Let's say the BR is the chance off blocking a hit.
Then we can say that a 12 BR shield will block 12 hits when it has been submissioned to 100 hits.
Whereas a 20BR shield will block 20.
But this is only an average and it doesn't work that way on real cases.

Knowing chances only works well on large numbers, meaning: The chance will resemble the results more if the experiment is done more.
EG:
If you toss a coin 10 times it's fairly possible to see 8 times head and only 2times tail.
But if you toss it 1000 times the results will lie closer to a 500-500 division.

If we look at the BR with the above knowlegde we'll get these results.
A BR 12 can block more as a BR 20 shield when you look at 20 attempts to block.
However if you do the experiment more the outcome will resemble the expected outcome more.


And the displayed values probably aren't the real odds. It's probably only a piece of a larger equation. (same as critchances)











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A: Read my first quote.
B: You can say what you want, try to prove what you say. But I have witnessed it with my own eyes. I currently have a br18 72 shield and it blocks nothing at all. I've been using it for like a month now. In between I've also been using a br 14 which had 100% phy defense. This monster blocked soooooo much shit. Accidently destroyed it while going for +6. But as many have said, and as I will keep saying


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Omg, he must block a lot, wonder how many stones it took him to get there O_o

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Omg, he must block a lot, wonder how many stones it took him to get there O_o

he got it as a drop that way :P...i'm in the same guild as him, he got offered 200m for it the way it is :P

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