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 Post subject: The real truth about disjointing SOS and Blues (and my set)
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:03 pm 
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Here's what happens when you try to disjoint my garment set, as shown here, without enough spots in your inventory. In case U didn't know, that's the standard way to test if you're going to get a lucky tablet or not. This should dispell all the BS people post all the time about getting like 6 stones from one item. It's one max and that's that (at least for 5D on down). That head is Seal of Sun FFS, and there really aren't many items bluer or stronger than the ones I have there so you're not gonna get more than 1 extra item. Btw, according to Joymax, you can only get tablets and wind potions from disjointing and SOX stones don't exist.
Also, note the shop price at the bottom of all the items. Yeah, that's same as a non SOS drop version of all of them. That's why you get the same amount of elements from disjointing SOS as non SOS drops so don't waste your money trying it.
Also notice that most of the SOS items DID NOT say they'd give 5 items (implying a tablet and 4 element types) while the +5 spear DID and the +7 boots DIDN'T and they're the only item that actually had lucky, so it's very random. Also, I tested most of these items before and they all said 4 so if it doesn't you an extra item one day, it might the next.
And finally, yes the earrings need str (unfortunate accident with it recently) and the hood needs HP, shut up I just got it lol
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you get stones, not tablets, and you can get more stones other than lucky

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you get stones, not tablets, and you can get more stones other than lucky

okay first of all, you do get lucky tablets, I've SEEN THEM IN STALLS and there's a file for them in one of the PK2s that came with the game.
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you get stones, not tablets, and you can get more stones other than lucky

okay first of all, you do get lucky tablets, I've SEEN THEM IN STALLS and there's a file for them in one of the PK2s that came with the game.
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well, if you can get lucky tablets you wont get them from breaking things, you only get stones. and you can get lots of other stones, ive got fog/air/spirit/mind stones before

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you get stones, not tablets, and you can get more stones other than lucky
true. i have gotten many different stones frM items.

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there's a file for them in one of the PK2s that came with the game


hmm, i just looked in the pk2 files. there are also astral tabs in there, but they dont exist in game

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eventually someone's going to post here saying they own a lucky tablet. I've seen them in 3 different people's stalls, 2 in hotan, 1 in DW. Their requirements are really odd too. And as soon as they do, they'll tell us where it came from. And since there are no other ways to get one than disjointing items, that's how. Can anyone honestly say they got a lucky stone from disjointing or just heard about someone getting one?

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eventually someone's going to post here saying they own a lucky tablet. I've seen them in 3 different people's stalls, 2 in hotan, 1 in DW. Their requirements are really odd too. And as soon as they do, they'll tell us where it came from. And since there are no other ways to get one than disjointing items, that's how. Can anyone honestly say they got a lucky stone from disjointing or just heard about someone getting one?


first ever 7d equip i destroyed gave me a lucky stone

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eventually someone's going to post here saying they own a lucky tablet. I've seen them in 3 different people's stalls, 2 in hotan, 1 in DW. Their requirements are really odd too. And as soon as they do, they'll tell us where it came from. And since there are no other ways to get one than disjointing items, that's how. Can anyone honestly say they got a lucky stone from disjointing or just heard about someone getting one?


I've heard on several occasions that there is a restriction based on the equipments degree. Usually in the line of either 5th degree, or 6th Degree and up...

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Here's what happens when you try to disjoint my garment set, as shown here, without enough spots in your inventory. In case U didn't know, that's the standard way to test if you're going to get a lucky tablet or not. This should dispell all the BS people post all the time about getting like 6 stones from one item. It's one max and that's that (at least for 5D on down). That head is Seal of Sun FFS, and there really aren't many items bluer or stronger than the ones I have there so you're not gonna get more than 1 extra item. Btw, according to Joymax, you can only get tablets and wind potions from disjointing and SOX stones don't exist.
Also, note the shop price at the bottom of all the items. Yeah, that's same as a non SOS drop version of all of them. That's why you get the same amount of elements from disjointing SOS as non SOS drops so don't waste your money trying it.
Also notice that most of the SOS items DID NOT say they'd give 5 items (implying a tablet and 4 element types) while the +5 spear DID and the +7 boots DIDN'T and they're the only item that actually had lucky, so it's very random. Also, I tested most of these items before and they all said 4 so if it doesn't you an extra item one day, it might the next.
And finally, yes the earrings need str (unfortunate accident with it recently) and the hood needs HP, shut up I just got it lol

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While that may be the "standard" way, its not 100%. I have MANY times tried this "trick" and it stated that i needed 7 free spots. From that you can assume i would get 4 stacks of elements, and 3 stones (yes, STONES, not TABLETS). So i emptied my inventory so i had 7 spots, went thru the procedure again, hit fuse, and guess what? I ONLY got 4 stacks of elements. This, like everything else in SRO, is random.

I have never EVER heard of anyone, or seen anyone saying they got 6 stones from breaking an item. You probably misinterpreted 6 items (4 stacks of elements, and 2 stones) for 6 stones. The most i have ever got was 3 stones (so 7 items including elements)

You DONT, i repeat DONT get tabs from breaking items. I have gotten a drug (wind, typhoon, breeze depending on the degree of the item), stones (any stone that is available in game, except for immortal and astral is available to be had by breaking items), and elements. Thats ALL you can get, no question.

It is also known from experience that you are WAY more likely to get stones from breaking weapons rather than gear. Weapons = more elements than gear, they also = more chance for a stone than gear. Ive broken hundreds upon hundreds of items, and thats the way it went.

Also, there might have been a lucky tablet back in the day, i havent been here since day 1, and those people might have held onto them because they are non-existent anymore. You CANNOT get them from breaking items.

I know if i saw a lucky tablet in someones stall, i would have screenshotted it, and until i see that screenshot, i call bs.

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Bad post.

1. There is no such thing as a lucky tablet. Not sure what you saw, but it wasn't a lucky tablet.

2. You get lucky stones from disjointing, not tablets. In fact, my best disjoint ever was an 8th degree weapon which gave 2 lucky stones and a ruby stone (yes, 3 stones).

3. Your methodology for determining how many stones/elements an item disjoints to is wrong - it's NOT the "standard way to test if you're going to get a lucky tablet". I've tried the same thing numerous times and found even if it says you need 5 spots, you may still only get 4 bundles of elements.


Yet another thread about SRO that contains lots of false information.


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Lucky tablet .. thats gotta be the biggest bullshit ever.

Oh and the 1 stone per broken item .. hmm I personally usually get 2-3. Even peopel posted here getting 3 lucky stones from 1 item. You won't get a tab and I'ver never personally had a drug from an item.

Lucky tablet .. ss it when it's in someone's stall, because quite frankly for me it's a load of crock.


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lol ok tomorrow I'll global a request for 1 mil to just see one. Btw I saw a 3D lucky stone in a stall in Jangan :) I was gonna buy it but they wanted 1 mil and I already have one sort of semi-rare gimmicky alchemy item (lvl 9 wind lol) Btw I'm gonna make a video tomorrow too of just how ridiculous people are exaggerating the odds of getting anything while disjointing weapons since that's the main way I make my elements
P.S. every time you say lucky tabs don't exist, one dies lol. I know what I saw though!!!

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Lucky tablet .. thats gotta be the biggest bullshit ever.

Oh and the 1 stone per broken item .. hmm I personally usually get 2-3. Even peopel posted here getting 3 lucky stones from 1 item. You won't get a tab and I'ver never personally had a drug from an item.

Lucky tablet .. ss it when it's in someone's stall, because quite frankly for me it's a load of crock.



I got 4 stones from a 8th degree weap with 4 blues..gotta dig up the screenshot somehow...screwed up my partitions so im using some data recovery software :S


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i have seen everything but never saw 1 single lucky TABLET
you sure will be the first to show me one in isro can`t wait.


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lol ok tomorrow I'll global a request for 1 mil to just see one. Btw I saw a 3D lucky stone in a stall in Jangan :) I was gonna buy it but they wanted 1 mil and I already have one sort of semi-rare gimmicky alchemy item (lvl 9 wind lol) Btw I'm gonna make a video tomorrow too of just how ridiculous people are exaggerating the odds of getting anything while disjointing weapons since that's the main way I make my elements
P.S. every time you say lucky tabs don't exist, one dies lol. I know what I saw though!!!


As far as i know, you can get stones from ANY degree, it just gets more rare the lower degree you go. Basically, you have a high chance of getting a stone off an 8th degree break, but a very small, almost non-existent chance in getting a stone of a 1st degree break.

9th degree elements arent rare by any means. I have at least 5k of all 4 lvl 9 elements. You get them from grinding mobs that are Niya Hunters and above.

I break 8th degree weapons everyday and i must say that its rare NOT to get a stone (or 2 or 3).

I am eagerly awaiting your screenie of the lucky tablet :roll:

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you'd have to kill like 20,000 of the highest lvl monsters and gave room for all their alch drops and since there's really no reason to keep them, I don't quite believe you but iunno, maybe you're that strange. And I'm sure you saw everything in the game but I guess you missed the tablet version of it. If it doesn't exist now, it used to cuz I SAW IT DAMMIT!

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you'd have to kill like 20,000 of the highest lvl monsters and gave room for all their alch drops and since there's really no reason to keep them, I don't quite believe you but iunno, maybe you're that strange. And I'm sure you saw everything in the game but I guess you missed the tablet version of it. If it doesn't exist now, it used to cuz I SAW IT DAMMIT!


there is a thing called being mistaken try considering you might have seen another sort of tablet and got confused with the stones/tablet of luck
confusion happens all the time no need to be cocky and say there was any and that you are sure of it, just waiting for the pictures or someone else who have seen it, because i never seen one and i am pretty sure i have seen nearly everything in this game so be the first and enlighten me, i might be mistaken :)

and 20k highest level mobs is nothing you will need to kill a lot more to go from 74-80 :D


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ah, but I visit 90% of the stalls in DW every single day searching for high yield items to alch. That's how I make all my money lol. I doubt you can say the same unless you're a compulsive stall shopper lolz. I see A LOT of tablets and a luck one kinda stands out

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you'd have to kill like 20,000 of the highest lvl monsters and gave room for all their alch drops and since there's really no reason to keep them, I don't quite believe you but iunno, maybe you're that strange. And I'm sure you saw everything in the game but I guess you missed the tablet version of it. If it doesn't exist now, it used to cuz I SAW IT DAMMIT!


Where did you get the 20,000 monster number from? You know you can get multiple lvl 9 elements from the same mob, dont you oh wise one?

When im farming, i dunno, call me crazy, but i have my pet pick up all the alchemy drops :roll: . Mages give insane fire4 which i use now and then, and a few lower level guildies use it so i have no problem giving it away.

I also never stated that i have seen everything in the game, the guy that posted above me did.

Still awaiting that screenie :roll:

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ah, but I visit 90% of the stalls in DW every single day searching for high yield items to alch. That's how I make all my money lol. I doubt you can say the same unless you're a compulsive stall shopper lolz. I see A LOT of tablets and a luck one kinda stands out


i got to disappoint you but i do the same, but i don`t do the reselling game i kinda find it silly i rather work for my cash instead of abuse others people "stupidity" whenever i return to a town i check all stalls
i know how to get lucky stones, i know how to get tabs/elements, my monkey eats them for dinner (same goes for arrows :x ) i do stall elements and stones but i never EVER seen a luck tablet, if they exist in isro like you say then its the most rare item i ever heard of, guess you could sell those for more than any sosun since it is that rare


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it seems to me like only about 1 in 10 monsters drop alchemy items so to get 5k that's 50,000 and factor in that the average amount on them is 3 elements per (slightly less actually) and U have to kill 16,666

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it seems to me like only about 1 in 10 monsters drop alchemy items so to get 5k that's 50,000 and factor in that the average amount on them is 3 elements per (slightly less actually) and U have to kill 16,666


Sorry, lol, but more than 1 in 10 mobs drop alchemy items. You cannot go off of your experience and say its the same for everyone.

Besides, have you never farmed? 20k mobs is peanuts in the long run.

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it seems to me like only about 1 in 10 monsters drop alchemy items so to get 5k that's 50,000 and factor in that the average amount on them is 3 elements per (slightly less actually) and U have to kill 16,666


Sorry, lol, but more than 1 in 10 mobs drop alchemy items. You cannot go off of your experience and say its the same for everyone.

Besides, have you never farmed? 20k mobs is peanuts in the long run.

that's why I don't level lol. It's pointless :P I just build up my garms. I'm a lvl 46 equivilant now and I'm 39 lol. And yes I can say it's the same for everyone. That's how the server's code works lol. It's not the same for every mob but they don't assign different drop rates to different people (don't tell the conspiracy theorists that though)

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it seems to me like only about 1 in 10 monsters drop alchemy items so to get 5k that's 50,000 and factor in that the average amount on them is 3 elements per (slightly less actually) and U have to kill 16,666


Sorry, lol, but more than 1 in 10 mobs drop alchemy items. You cannot go off of your experience and say its the same for everyone.

Besides, have you never farmed? 20k mobs is peanuts in the long run.

that's why I don't level lol. It's pointless :P I just build up my garms. I'm a lvl 46 equivilant now and I'm 39 lol. And yes I can say it's the same for everyone. That's how the server's code works lol. It's not the same for every mob but they don't assign different drop rates to different people (don't tell the conspiracy theorists that though)


You can say what you want, but just saying something dosnt proove it as truth.

Also, what relevance do your first 3 sentences have? Seems to me like your just a lowbie that blew waaaay too much gold on a set he should have outgrown within weeks.

Still awaiting that screenshot :roll:

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eventually someone's going to post here saying they own a lucky tablet. I've seen them in 3 different people's stalls, 2 in hotan, 1 in DW. Their requirements are really odd too. And as soon as they do, they'll tell us where it came from. And since there are no other ways to get one than disjointing items, that's how. Can anyone honestly say they got a lucky stone from disjointing or just heard about someone getting one?


Yes I got one 8d lucky stone.

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No screenshot or anything, but I distinctly remember seeing 3 lucky tabs in a stall once before the 80 cap was released.

Type of stone(s) that come(s) out of destroying items is pretty much random from what i can tell. And the probability of getting a stone increases if the number of needed slots increases from my experience.

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eventually someone's going to post here saying they own a lucky tablet. I've seen them in 3 different people's stalls, 2 in hotan, 1 in DW. Their requirements are really odd too. And as soon as they do, they'll tell us where it came from. And since there are no other ways to get one than disjointing items, that's how. Can anyone honestly say they got a lucky stone from disjointing or just heard about someone getting one?


Yes I got one 8d lucky stone.


Ive gotten lots and lots of lucky stones. What he has to proove is that there is a lucky TABLET.

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eventually someone's going to post here saying they own a lucky tablet. I've seen them in 3 different people's stalls, 2 in hotan, 1 in DW. Their requirements are really odd too. And as soon as they do, they'll tell us where it came from. And since there are no other ways to get one than disjointing items, that's how. Can anyone honestly say they got a lucky stone from disjointing or just heard about someone getting one?


Yes I got one 8d lucky stone.


Ive gotten lots and lots of lucky stones. What he has to proove is that there is a lucky TABLET.


That's what he asked.. :cry:

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