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SO is the normal GT still they same or have they removed the SP gain from that???

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SO is the normal GT still they same or have they removed the SP gain from that???

Normal gt is the same.

So basically
its 4X sp with both tickets.

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SO is the normal GT still they same or have they removed the SP gain from that???

Normal gt is the same.

So basically
its 4X sp with both tickets.


Even better with a 9 gap :D

each level of gap is 10% rite? so its like GT + SPT + 9Gap = 4.9X or is it 5.8????

i wuz always bad at maths but this seem correct

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lol i could farm 80k in 1month

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So is the 100% of silk tick based on normal kill (kill+gt+st=300%) or is it based on the already doubled gt amount (kill+gt x st=400%) ???

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lol i could farm 80k in 1month


80k? What the hell? I mean, cmon. I farm 7k a day with a normal gold ticket. That would make 210k a month, that's EXCLUDING the new ticket. So 80k a month? Nice.... :oops:

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So is the 100% of silk tick based on normal kill (kill+gt+st=300%) or is it based on the already doubled gt amount (kill+gt x st=400%) ???


it shud be + but i wouldn't add the the (kill) part since u get that anyway so its (gt + spt= 200%)

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So is the 100% of silk tick based on normal kill (kill+gt+st=300%) or is it based on the already doubled gt amount (kill+gt x st=400%) ???


it shud be + but i wouldn't add the the (kill) part since u get that anyway so its (gt + spt= 200%)

I disagree.
Normal kills are 200%.
It wil now be 400% I think.

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lol i could farm 80k in 1month


80k? What the hell? I mean, cmon. I farm 7k a day with a normal gold ticket. That would make 210k a month, that's EXCLUDING the new ticket. So 80k a month? Nice.... :oops:


i dont know how u farm 7k a day 0_O but i have a str char and they kill slower than ints so i get around 1.3- 1.5k a day

btw this is only during gt time

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i think it works like this if u have gold ticket and sp gold ticket:

start with 100 sp..... 1 ticket works goes 200.......2nd ticket works ....200x2= 400 so i m thinking it total 400% ^^

Now i will farm new char ^^ nukestorm got hacxked with 150k :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: hacker donated all to GP -.- and i lost 42 som spear and sos set 42-27 +4 and 130m gold :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: stupid Bable


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Now it will be a bit cheaper for the capped players to finish up farming. They didnt need the exp anyways, just the SP.

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uh oh, now ppl are gonna have mad skills like me :( hmm, well I hope they add a mastery cap raising item soon. Btw for all you ppl wondering, here's a chart of the SP exp factors by gap level. NOTE: the idiot who made it did it backwards. Obviously a 9 gap gets you tons more SP than a 0 gap.
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so in other words, if you get 100 SP exp per level at a 0 gap, you'd get 1936 sp per kill with a 9 gap. So don't go getting all excited you skill-less non happers, doubling your SP exp doesn't even give you as much more SP as increasing your gap to 1 does.
Btw in case you're a math kinda person like me, you'd realize how completely stupid doubling SP exp is. This is gonna get confusing but stay with me :P The difference between a 1 gap and a 3 gap is about double the SP exp. But if you calculate the diffence in regular exp you lose by reducing your gap that low, it's only about 50%. So if you instead bought a double SP exp ticket and trained that way and left your gap at 1, the total effect would be that of a silver ticket where you get 50% more exp. The only added advantage is being able to use higher level skills....that's it.

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uh oh, now ppl are gonna have mad skills like me :( hmm, well I hope they add a mastery cap raising item soon. Btw for all you ppl wondering, here's a chart of the SP exp factors by gap level. NOTE: the idiot who made it did it backwards. Obviously a 9 gap gets you tons more SP than a 0 gap.
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so in other words, if you get 100 SP exp per level at a 0 gap, you'd get 1936 sp per kill with a 9 gap. So don't go getting all excited you skill-less non happers, doubling your SP exp doesn't even give you as much more SP as increasing your gap to 1 does.
Btw in case you're a math kinda person like me, you'd realize how completely stupid doubling SP exp is. This is gonna get confusing but stay with me :P The difference between a 1 gap and a 3 gap is about double the SP exp. But if you calculate the diffence in regular exp you lose by reducing your gap that low, it's only about 50%. So if you instead bought a double SP exp ticket and trained that way and left your gap at 1, the total effect would be that of a silver ticket where you get 50% more exp. The only added advantage is being able to use higher level skills....that's it.


Or how bout, you have a 9 lvl gap and you use this.
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uh oh, now ppl are gonna have mad skills like me :( hmm, well I hope they add a mastery cap raising item soon. Btw for all you ppl wondering, here's a chart of the SP exp factors by gap level. NOTE: the idiot who made it did it backwards. Obviously a 9 gap gets you tons more SP than a 0 gap.
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so in other words, if you get 100 SP exp per level at a 0 gap, you'd get 1936 sp per kill with a 9 gap. So don't go getting all excited you skill-less non happers, doubling your SP exp doesn't even give you as much more SP as increasing your gap to 1 does.
Btw in case you're a math kinda person like me, you'd realize how completely stupid doubling SP exp is. This is gonna get confusing but stay with me :P The difference between a 1 gap and a 3 gap is about double the SP exp. But if you calculate the diffence in regular exp you lose by reducing your gap that low, it's only about 50%. So if you instead bought a double SP exp ticket and trained that way and left your gap at 1, the total effect would be that of a silver ticket where you get 50% more exp. The only added advantage is being able to use higher level skills....that's it.


Or how bout, you have a 9 lvl gap and you use this.
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you're forgetting that 9 gappers are idiots wasting their own time. Farming is retarded. I have 5 skill areas and have ran a 7 gap for as long as I can remember and I have had more than enough SP. In fact, I ungapped to like 2 recently and still have 5k SP to spare. How's this different from farming? When I'm done, I have full skills AND I'm lvl 40. So I'll say it once again since all you farmtards don't seem to get it. FARMING IS STUPID! I should put that in my sig :P
Btw I would get 6600 SP exp per kill if I had a gap of 9 seeing as how I train at lvl 50 monsters :P still stupid though

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uh oh, now ppl are gonna have mad skills like me :( hmm, well I hope they add a mastery cap raising item soon. Btw for all you ppl wondering, here's a chart of the SP exp factors by gap level. NOTE: the idiot who made it did it backwards. Obviously a 9 gap gets you tons more SP than a 0 gap.
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so in other words, if you get 100 SP exp per level at a 0 gap, you'd get 1936 sp per kill with a 9 gap. So don't go getting all excited you skill-less non happers, doubling your SP exp doesn't even give you as much more SP as increasing your gap to 1 does.
Btw in case you're a math kinda person like me, you'd realize how completely stupid doubling SP exp is. This is gonna get confusing but stay with me :P The difference between a 1 gap and a 3 gap is about double the SP exp. But if you calculate the diffence in regular exp you lose by reducing your gap that low, it's only about 50%. So if you instead bought a double SP exp ticket and trained that way and left your gap at 1, the total effect would be that of a silver ticket where you get 50% more exp. The only added advantage is being able to use higher level skills....that's it.


Or how bout, you have a 9 lvl gap and you use this.
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you're forgetting that 9 gappers are idiots wasting their own time. Farming is retarded. I have 5 skill areas and have ran a 7 gap for as long as I can remember and I have had more than enough SP. In fact, I ungapped to like 2 recently and still have 5k SP to spare. How's this different from farming? When I'm done, I have full skills AND I'm lvl 40. So I'll say it once again since all you farmtards don't seem to get it. FARMING IS STUPID! I should put that in my sig :P
Btw I would get 6600 SP exp per kill if I had a gap of 9 seeing as how I train at lvl 50 monsters :P still stupid though


9 Gappers gain SP at a much faster rate therefore reaching their goal earlier. Once they reach their goal, they can 0 gap till the cap, or until their next farming point. I find doing that is much more enjoyable than leveling slow, and gaining sp slow by having a gap less than 9, cause you actually see good progress.

How is having a 7 gap for as long as you can remember, and only having 5k sp extra at lvl 40 different than farming? Well, a 9 gapped player would have gotten all that sp you got in your what, over a year of playing? in a matter of months and would have been a much higher level than you, i would say easily 8th degree.

And btw, i dont really think you understand the way things work if you think you will get 6600sxp (16.5sp) per kill on a 9 gap. You might wanna do a bit of testing before you spit out rubbish like this.

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uh oh, now ppl are gonna have mad skills like me :( hmm, well I hope they add a mastery cap raising item soon. Btw for all you ppl wondering, here's a chart of the SP exp factors by gap level. NOTE: the idiot who made it did it backwards. Obviously a 9 gap gets you tons more SP than a 0 gap.
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so in other words, if you get 100 SP exp per level at a 0 gap, you'd get 1936 sp per kill with a 9 gap. So don't go getting all excited you skill-less non happers, doubling your SP exp doesn't even give you as much more SP as increasing your gap to 1 does.
Btw in case you're a math kinda person like me, you'd realize how completely stupid doubling SP exp is. This is gonna get confusing but stay with me :P The difference between a 1 gap and a 3 gap is about double the SP exp. But if you calculate the diffence in regular exp you lose by reducing your gap that low, it's only about 50%. So if you instead bought a double SP exp ticket and trained that way and left your gap at 1, the total effect would be that of a silver ticket where you get 50% more exp. The only added advantage is being able to use higher level skills....that's it.


Or how bout, you have a 9 lvl gap and you use this.
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you're forgetting that 9 gappers are idiots wasting their own time. Farming is retarded. I have 5 skill areas and have ran a 7 gap for as long as I can remember and I have had more than enough SP. In fact, I ungapped to like 2 recently and still have 5k SP to spare. How's this different from farming? When I'm done, I have full skills AND I'm lvl 40. So I'll say it once again since all you farmtards don't seem to get it. FARMING IS STUPID! I should put that in my sig :P
Btw I would get 6600 SP exp per kill if I had a gap of 9 seeing as how I train at lvl 50 monsters :P still stupid though


I think you have to past d6 to relize how much SP you need.

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uh oh, now ppl are gonna have mad skills like me :( hmm, well I hope they add a mastery cap raising item soon. Btw for all you ppl wondering, here's a chart of the SP exp factors by gap level. NOTE: the idiot who made it did it backwards. Obviously a 9 gap gets you tons more SP than a 0 gap.
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so in other words, if you get 100 SP exp per level at a 0 gap, you'd get 1936 sp per kill with a 9 gap. So don't go getting all excited you skill-less non happers, doubling your SP exp doesn't even give you as much more SP as increasing your gap to 1 does.
Btw in case you're a math kinda person like me, you'd realize how completely stupid doubling SP exp is. This is gonna get confusing but stay with me :P The difference between a 1 gap and a 3 gap is about double the SP exp. But if you calculate the diffence in regular exp you lose by reducing your gap that low, it's only about 50%. So if you instead bought a double SP exp ticket and trained that way and left your gap at 1, the total effect would be that of a silver ticket where you get 50% more exp. The only added advantage is being able to use higher level skills....that's it.


Or how bout, you have a 9 lvl gap and you use this.
:)

you're forgetting that 9 gappers are idiots wasting their own time. Farming is retarded. I have 5 skill areas and have ran a 7 gap for as long as I can remember and I have had more than enough SP. In fact, I ungapped to like 2 recently and still have 5k SP to spare. How's this different from farming? When I'm done, I have full skills AND I'm lvl 40. So I'll say it once again since all you farmtards don't seem to get it. FARMING IS STUPID! I should put that in my sig :P
Btw I would get 6600 SP exp per kill if I had a gap of 9 seeing as how I train at lvl 50 monsters :P still stupid though


I think you have to past d6 to relize how much SP you need.


+1

Just to get my mastery from 77 to 78 in 1 tree i need over 2200sp :banghead:

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ya definately realize the importance of SP at higher lvl's and when the higher new cap skills takin 5k per come this will become real obvious. benefit of farmin with 9 gap is havin max skills when ya decide to lvl...whats the point in keepin a 7 to lvl a bit faster and have mediocre skills in doing so???

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And btw, i dont really think you understand the way things work if you think you will get 6600sxp (16.5sp) per kill on a 9 gap. You might wanna do a bit of testing before you spit out rubbish like this.

whoa, someone's got their undees in a bundle. It's actually higher, I miscalculated. When I ungapped to a 2 gap, I got 3300 regular exp per kill on the mujigis. So that means if I did the opposite and increased my gap to 9-2 = 7, it should be 3300 SP exp per kill cuz I think it inverts like that. So I meant I'd get 6.6k with the new ticket and gold ticket together (cuz I was using gold to get 3.3k) but I forgot I didn't completely ungap so it should actually be *pulls out calculator* about 9240 SP exp per kill at a 9 gap. If U don't believe me, there's a video :P
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SO is the normal GT still they same or have they removed the SP gain from that???

Normal gt is the same.

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its 4X sp with both tickets.


No its not,now GT dont give more 100% Sp whit exp,they splited them,so GT just give 100% exp and nothing more.

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163 X 2= 326.

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yeah haha. When your old GT runs out and you buy a new GT or PT it will just be 100% exp. And you have to buy the new ticket to get sp. :D


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yeah haha. When your old GT runs out and you buy a new GT or PT it will just be 100% exp. And you have to buy the new ticket to get sp. :D


Highly doubt that.

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Go ingame and read the tickets in the item mall. You will see.

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This picture was taken right as the new PT was put in. So it has always said +100% xp, but always done both.

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Can be used simultaneously with Gold/Silver time service, but cannot be used with skill silver time ticket


Hawt dam, when I start buying silk I'm gonna get both, I need insane ammounts of sp :D


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OMFG and ¾. If they seriously tried to be all tricky and customize the tickets for levelers and farmers but really just make you buy 2 tickets to give you the same effect as the old gold tickets, I'm gonna ****ing fly to Korea and light their HQ on fire. That's absolute bullshit. Now it'd cost 208 silk instead of 130 to double both! I still dunno if I believe anyone here saying the old gold ones are only doing exp now. They only claimed to do "double experience" before without mentioning SP so the description hasn't changed. But if they come out with one to double job exp, then some shit's gonna go down

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