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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:24 pm 
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I remember it being taken down, and I want to take a look at it.


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pming him on Alps to get him there right now :P

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Hybrid bow build.
His balance is around 90% phy / 70% mag. In my server, i think Zummm has the same build and he deals kick ass damage.

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Wo ye ai ni :)

That goes around to...2:1? 1:1?


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NuclearSilo wrote:
Hybrid bow build.
His balance is around 90% phy / 70% mag. In my server, i think Zummm has the same build and he deals kick ass damage.



i remember I was talking shit about this build before update but now it might be strong with new skill especially if you get mana shield since you hybrid :P

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Well considering I actually have a competator I'm gonna try now =)

The difference between my build and her build is, I can semi nuke and I can use mana shield. And we are doing similar damage. I want to see her bow, mines pretty weak atm.

My build is a secret. I was at one time sharing it openly, but to many flammers bashing my build. So just try some thing things as you level, best of luck!

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Virtually the same as mine judging by hp\mp at 80 and not knowing the blues on gear.

95% - 97% STR
58% - 61% INT
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it's originally a build with 79% phy and 55% mag balance. With gear +5str/+5int, u'll be 91%/73% balance.

http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Bu ... file=36071

2:1 build has 82/51 bal
1:1 build has 75/62 bal

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The variances oh my! what could it be :D

Why is everybody copying my build when 2 months ago I got flammed by everybody on this forum... I think some of you owe me an apology. Maybe then i'll consider posting my stats. Naked too ^^

I'd need at least 10, ahem.

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:)

I never really doubted the build because of the damage count...

Soooo apologies for not doubting and apologies if I did?


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Read the original thread, nice build dude but i can see why you wouldnt want to share it with these people...

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Some build deals great damage against Mangyang, but deals bad damage against player, just because Mangyang has technically no defense.

It is okey for your hybrid as long as your mag power is higher than the enemy defense, same with phys power.

Long time ago, i calculated that a hybrid need to have at least ~55% mag bal against pure str, and ~65% mag bal against pure int to be able to deal a good damage. Below than that, your sacrifice of HP for mag damage is a waste.

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NuclearSilo wrote:
Some build deals great damage against Mangyang, but deals bad damage against player, just because Mangyang has technically no defense.

It is okey for your hybrid as long as your mag power is higher than the enemy defense, same with phys power.

Long time ago, i calculated that a hybrid need to have at least ~55% mag bal against pure str, and ~65% mag bal against pure int to be able to deal a good damage. Below than that, your sacrifice of HP for mag damage is a waste.


Yeah all that is now thrown out the window because we can now stun and knockback our opponent. So you just have to be str based and still be able to hit the crits, which is 3x easier now with those skills and not spendign the entire time on the ground via blader or stunned via glavier.

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I'm using the char builder to map out the possibilities to keep the 79%/55% as close as possible.

So far I have most of it has 2:1 str:int, but every 3-5 levels it will go 1:2. Very awkward, though I think I may have it down.


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i want pb&j's :D


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Mmk I just finished...

Yeah so basically it's 2:1 with adding 1:2 every 3-5 levels. And that should give you the 79% phy and 55% mag. After that it's up to your gear.

Level 69 = 120 STR added, 81 INT added

This may not be how you added it in, liquidsmooth, but it's the best that I could've done.


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liquidsmooth wrote:
The variances oh my! what could it be :D

Why is everybody copying my build when 2 months ago I got flammed by everybody on this forum... I think some of you owe me an apology. Maybe then i'll consider posting my stats. Naked too ^^

I'd need at least 10, ahem.


I was well along this path before i even saw your name.

And you were flamed for your "almighty" attitude. True that most people just flat out refused to believe that a hybrid str could go anywhere in this game, but you added fuel to that fire also.

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For a 79/55 Balance you could have 243 str and 192 int at level 80 which, take away the automatic 99 points, leaving you with 144 str and 93 int that you put in yourself... I think for the first 31 levels up (meaning till level 32) he put all points into int then from there on put all points in str... giving him an easier sp farming capability early in the game then he would have had with doing 2 str 1 int for few level then for one level do 1 str 2 int.
I'm probably incorrect but thats what I would do if I was planning on being a 79/55 balance for easier level 16 and 52 sp farming than if I was to put 2:1 then 1:2 every 5 or so levels.

But hey, that's just my opinion.


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I've never seen any bow build able to beat any other competent build. Archers lose in equal battles.

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If this video for example http://youtube.com/watch?v=-BJMVH54xsM
During all matches, i noticed that the bower's HP never goes lower than 40%. So u may sacrifice 35% of the total HP of the pure str for damage in int.
I calculated with the char builder and the result is : u have to have at least 75% of phy bal to be able to survive in the fights like these.

So your build is at least 1:1 and be 75%/62% bal.

Obviously, u can win with a build like this if u dont have knockback skill.

Edit: U cant die in anycase if u have mana shield... U can be pure int and kill ppl within 90s otherwise your dead. Pure int bow gain advantage by using strongbow which use only 2s to charge, so that its damage/time is higher than a nuke.

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Or you could check out the thread posted above and do a little guesstimation. Varying a few points here and there wont make too much of a difference.

From above thread.

http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sro2007051901061137wt6.jpg

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Lady Serenity wrote:
For a 79/55 Balance you could have 243 str and 192 int at level 80 which, take away the automatic 99 points, leaving you with 144 str and 93 int that you put in yourself... I think for the first 31 levels up (meaning till level 32) he put all points into int then from there on put all points in str... giving him an easier sp farming capability early in the game then he would have had with doing 2 str 1 int for few level then for one level do 1 str 2 int.
I'm probably incorrect but thats what I would do if I was planning on being a 79/55 balance for easier level 16 and 52 sp farming than if I was to put 2:1 then 1:2 every 5 or so levels.

But hey, that's just my opinion.


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That works actually. The int will allow 16 farming and 32 farming.


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Lady Serenity wrote:
For a 79/55 Balance you could have 243 str and 192 int at level 80 which, take away the automatic 99 points, leaving you with 144 str and 93 int that you put in yourself... I think for the first 31 levels up (meaning till level 32) he put all points into int then from there on put all points in str... giving him an easier sp farming capability early in the game then he would have had with doing 2 str 1 int for few level then for one level do 1 str 2 int.
I'm probably incorrect but thats what I would do if I was planning on being a 79/55 balance for easier level 16 and 52 sp farming than if I was to put 2:1 then 1:2 every 5 or so levels.

But hey, that's just my opinion.


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That works actually. The int will allow 16 farming and 32 farming.


Oh yeah, I'm good :D . I think with all hybrid builds you should calculate how many levels of int your putting in then do the int first before even looking at the plus sign next to str.

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boo for str hybrids :D

full str all the way, if u cant kill em with crits then effe the bow, and we saw a full str crit harder than hybrid str, so liquid get ur masteries up u fool and post a new screenie. :roll:

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Lady Serenity wrote:
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sro2007051901061137wt6.jpg
So there he has 331 str and 216 int, take away the the 56 from each for blues and his premium and that leaves him with 275 str and 160 int (naked). Now take the 99 point each that are given to you and that leaves 176 str and 61 int that he put in himself.
So if that was me I would've put all int in for the first 20 levels then put in 1 int the next level thenall str from there on.
But that means at level 80 he has an 86/45 balance when naked leading to his 96/62 balance with his blue and premium.

I think this is correct due to the image and I checked it level for level. Dont think my choice of putting in stat points was his but it leads to same level 80 results.
Now the question is, what are his skills? 8) lol


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P.S. Sorry for the double post.


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Hybrid str sucks. Make a full str! It's the way to go. Refer to here http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=36463 for how bad hybrids suck! Look at user comments! If you make hybrid str you are a lame noob who can't kill anything! I suck at pvp and can't kill anything, I wish I woulda made a full str!

MrFudge: "wilson786 on babel would own your ass 5 lives in one hit."

[NF]IceCrash: "tbh the most honest i can be, i think that if i was ur lvl ud die in, one kd, two stabs, sss,ghost spear >.<"

bambskiii: "my grandma did that damage at lvl 44.."

PureOwnage: "I agree, to be the damage leader it doesnt matter whether someone has +9 plain, plain sos, som or sosun. The person with the highest damage is the leader, which liquid is not"

Liquid, youre not critting harder then a pure str.

HertogJan: "I am level 67 with normal +3/+4 garms and a lvl 64+7 crit 10 bow. I am not fully farmed, pacheon is on 64, fire on 64, lighting on 52 or so, ice on 48." "i am behind on some damage but figure I will do better when I reach lvl 69"

BakaFish: "woah someone got pwned big time for calling himself THE DAMAGE LEADER."

[SD]Stress: "liquidsmooth got pwned."

HertogJan: "I am pretty sure I will do more damage when we both reach 80 and crit with berserker arrow. IF i am fully farmed by then >.<"

Fat_Smurf: "lol i'm turning my famring pure str into an archer just to beat you see you in 1-2 month lol"

Slayer007: "if ur LiquidSmooth from tiebt than ur dmg is pathetic comp-raed to mine, i did 48k crit and ur 5 lvls more than me so nuttin to be proud bout noob"

DarkJackal: "His secret is sosun and probably full str+int on eq with the extra stats and %dmg from ticket, there is no "secret build" lol."

See guys my build sucks. Listen to your fellow elite members. All my screenshots have been photoshopped. They are ALL fake. Along with those numbers in the screen shot of me. I wish I made a full str =(

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With the update, hybrid STR turns very powerful. Before the update it was not really very strong, but now it kicks ass, especially with cold.

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[SD]Stress wrote:
With the update, hybrid STR turns very powerful. Before the update it was not really very strong, but now it kicks ass, especially with cold.


Yeah your right it was weak before the update, as all bows are a bit better now but hybrid str still doesn't crit as hard and has less hp. It's not worth building.

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liquidsmooth wrote:
[SD]Stress wrote:
With the update, hybrid STR turns very powerful. Before the update it was not really very strong, but now it kicks ass, especially with cold.


Yeah your right it was weak before the update, as all bows are a bit better now but hybrid str still doesn't crit as hard and has less hp. It's not worth building.


Stop trying to get people to turn away from your build :P


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The purpose of a hybrid is to deal higher damage with attack without crit

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