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Oh ok thanks and If i do what you suggest the imbune would be lightning since its gona be lvl 90?

off course

debatable, i use both ice and ligtning
ice is awesome in pve, and if people arn't immuum (there are a lot of them) it really works good out in pvp too

when i do face people that are resistent for ice, i just switch to my other hotbar

People can be ice immune but ice imbue still gives you the increase to magical attack damage and crits. It isn't only for freeze/frostbit as I see this as a status effect bonus. But you are right in pve......orange mobs rarely get to me and if they do it is for usually only a single hit.

I am now mid 4x and working to get back to 70:70 as I clicked STR for two points inadvertantly recently. (think I am 75:71 or something like that) When you have a pure str character and you switch back and forth when leveling up gotta remember to "think" first before putting your points in

Anyway, like the damage I am giving, MP for the snow shield, enough HP to keep me alive as long as I am not mobbed by pt mobs....overall very pleased.

That';s will not work with :


The question was about that masteries ,
and you use both : lightining and cold . can you tell me how your masteries will be at 90 ?
will you leave fire at 30 ?!!!! you really need fire at higher lvls ..



what's this shit you say ?
plz read this topic first :
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=48121

that chart the guy wrote is bullsh1t, fire doesnt give a higher chance of critical, i dno how he worked it out but if it was an advantage to fire it will be listed on the imbue, so i seriously cnt believe dat.

lol im glad that this thread is still alive... but why do some people always ask the same ?
and shouldnt we stay on the main topic ? löl
Alright feel free to ask xD

cheers

If somone is 1:1 is that basicly 70:70 build ? or a little different?

That';s will not work with :
give me one reason why this wouldn't work?im not the one with the idea of having a very low ice AND fire level lol



The question was about that masteries ,
and you use both : lightining and cold . can you tell me how your masteries will be at 90 ?
will you leave fire at 30 ?!!!! you really need fire at higher lvls ..
masteries 90 cap: 90 light/ice/pacheon fire 30
why do i NEED to have fire on higher level lol?




what's this shit you say ?
the difference for this build between lightning and ice, is just 2%. It isn't that high

however i don't understand what he says too

You are correct on the point of fire doesnt give a higher chance of crit (any imbue has that capability), but saying that is bullsh1t is a bit too much. Look that he clearly say that imbue has little or NO effect on the number of crits, if you have a difference that you have to do is shot more times until that difference disappear.

what's this shit you say ?
plz read this topic first :
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=48121[/quote]

This "shit" I say is that even if someone is ice immune which there are some but not everyone, then you still are getting your increase to your magical attack damage from your imbue and that the freeze and the frostbite are bonus status effects just like burn and electric show are bonus status effect and I meant to say and then there are the crits(not that ice imbue increases crits but there are other posts will explain this as you have provided one link. Thanks.

Thundertiger force

Magical attack power 12~23(100%)
Continuous hours 5.0 second
Transfer range distance 3m (Transfer:2)
Electric show Probability 20%(effect 30)

Ice river force

Magical attack power 13~19(100%)
Continuous hours 5.0 second
Freezing Probability 5%(effect 30)
Frost bite Probability 25% (effect 30)

River fire force

Magical attack power 16~26(100%)
Continuous hours 5.0 second
Burn Probability 25%(effect 30)

we just misunderstood you, tq for the explanation

lol I didn't get the point of your post well before ...

But look :


You see that there is 7% increase of the overall attack when use fire instead of ice , 7% difference not 2% .. and about light it do the same damge as fire when you elctric shock your enemy and have 3% decrease if not elctric shock .. and about the crit increase from imbue that's nothing to say as there is no effect of increase crit chance come from imbue ..
hope you understand me ...

And about abandon fire at 30 .. it will give you less phy damge , less mag def , less resist to effects , can't detect invisible and stealth ... all this to freeze/frost enemies and more phy def ?! I don't like cold 90 to hybrids at all .. see it';s a big loss .. as hybrid can't use snow shield more than 35~ 50 % (lvl 50 ~ 60 ) .. and hybrids will have weak side if they abandon any mastery too low (in 30) , and look at lvl 60,61 fire passive and buffs .. it's great increase than all lower lvls ..

Maxing fire was the better choice for 80:80 bow before .. but in cap 90 light will be better as the mag attack buff give you more damge than phy attack one and parry ratio is good def against both mag and phy attack , and off course you love to have max speed from light ..

1+

Light is recommend for higher cap
Well would be troublesome if you go hunt uniques on same lvl or higher... since light's effect

people always make hunting uniques is a silly thing or just bullshit ..
If you hit 20th or 30th and wanna go hunt TG .. you wait her in the bandit den a lot of times till she spawn in front of you , now you alone with her , you get her HP to 60% all you need is to take 10% more .. and suddenly you found lvl 58 nuker come and take the all the HP remaining and take the kill .. you hate this .. you work hard .. lvl up and get great lvls .. you wait till you have degree 7 weapon .. now no one can take the kill from you .. you go again and as soon as you start the fight you found everything around you die in 1 ~ 2 skills from high euro build or other nuker degree 8 ..

People always go after the unique when they are higher lvls so all these elites and gaints don't fear them ..

It's only yarakan the one to speak about as there is no higher lvls than him in cap 80 .. and for yarakan people always hit and run , and light is the mastery to run .. and why you hate light effect near uniques ?.. it means more free exp from all these elites and gaints ..

elnawawi, I beleive what Jadekiss meant by the statement that uniques are troublesome with light imbue because it has a transfer effect. That transfer attack will make the monster start heading towards you since you are indirectly attacking them. I was on glavie(lgiht/ice bower) on the ice, using his light imbue and was killed when I agroed all the spawns from Isy onto myself and then died. The rush of her spawning next to me made me forget to switch to ice imbue.

You got it !
But IMO light looks the best

I love the look of light imbue, though I like the sound of ice better, but that is personal opinion.

Haha xD
BTW: YOu should change your nick to: Jadekiss's Girl !!! lol (jk)
eew we should stay on the topic

hi folks im back Londen was great!

yes i do lose alot bcz i don't have fire. However without ice im doing alot worser against str based buids.

the stealth detection skill is rubbsih. Do you really think a euro magic/roque wil come to you in a range of 10meters?

yep i lose phy % increase in attack. but since the main damage of this build come from ligtning. You won't suver that hard (lv 30 fire is 8% increase)

in the table above (from tomiator) i see 6% increase, not 7%


i think your build is rubbish too. Your gonna have a low level of both fire and ice. That means crap magical defence and crap phy defence. Better have 1 good side then 2 weak sides.

the phy dmg in fire doesnt do anything -.-, i nvr use to use the flame body extreme, but now that i have, there's no increase in my dmg........., as for fire shield, if JM decides to fix the bug and only shield users can use the buff then every1 will be panicing, since they been on a little session to fix many bugs, as for amg defence, just use garms with ice, i think shud work fine. But that's just me cz i prefer ice overall........

i agree When i find my mag defence to low i'll take garment too

But i just wonder what will happen to this build..when lvl 150 come out with only 300 mastery !
I know this will take maybe years will it come out but what will happen to all the chinese char ?
This bow build with lvl 150 ? Hmm =/
I think Pacheon/Light or Pacheon/Ice... IMO Pacheon/Fire isnt a good choice.
Well what do you guys think ?
Feel free to critisize

i was already thinking about that too...

pacheon/light

pacheon/light for sure :|

All force trees have there pros and cons. The best 1 is personal preference.

Doctor & Melli... yea you got it !
Pacheon/Light as expected from you
glavie...well... also good one LOL xD

But i would prefer ice over fire !
IMO i like frost nova and freezing hehe
btw light is the best

Glavie's Girl,
yes I understand jadkiss opinion about uniques I know that well , but I mean : I don't care about uniques .. that's my own opinion ..



lol , me too

Doctor_MOS,
hope that you spent good time in london , that's nice

wizard have range 10 m , dagger have range 0.6 m , they should come .. only crossbower who don't care about this skill .. and also you forget that this skill stay in the area for a while and you can move or stay after that .. it's tactical skill and everybody has his own tactics

And about the table it's 7% .. see
Average : 7560/7090 = 1.07
Highest : 8145/7631 = 1.07

And about the masteries :
Fire lvl 30 have +3% phy attack (passive) & +3% phy attack (buff) total 6%
Fire lvl 60 have +6% phy attack (passive) & +7% phy attack (buff) total 13% (loss 7% phy attack)

Fire lvl 30 have mag def 12 increase
Fire lvl 61 have mag def 70 increase (loss 58 mag def)

Cold lvl 60 have 42 phy def (passive) , 42 phy def (buff) total 84
Cold lvl 80 have 59 phy def (passive) , 81 phy def (buff) total 140 (loss 56 phy def .. will be more in 90)

Cold lvl 60 have 40% snow shield
Cold lvl 80 have 50% snow shield (Do you really think that a hybrid can use 50% snow shield ?! )

And all other cold skill only for freeze/frost and have no other use : cold wave , imbue , nova ..

For a hybrid designed for fast killing with heavy hits I prefer go after increase in attack than search about phy def ... fire will give you more mag def that's better than phy def .. I see that 80:80 bow have no problem with STR builds .. he can tank them well without snow shield and kill them fast .. so if they let me have less def and more damge I will go with that and use snow shield in hard situations ..
that's my opinion

hybrid can use 50% snow shield, i am 70:70 bow L78 and i amusing it, it works fine against str and sum hybrid, but pure int and euro 40% max.

Your idea would be good for 80 cap, i just don't think it will work better at 90 cap.
Why it work on 80 cap and not on 90? at 80 ur masteries are all near the level cap. That means they are maxed out and you will do v good. However at 90 cap you get problems with masteries limit ><
please post your idea for 90 cap. Maybe i can think bout it