The Bible is Bullsh1t!!!

Itonami · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3182 **Location:**

nohunta wrote:

Say it again so i aqcuire your IP come to your house and murder you and your entire family for insulting the book of god. The bible isnt Bullshit you are.

This is exactly the kind of person I was talking about when I mentioned mental and emotional stability being important when it comes to religion.

Aby · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 1339 **Location:**

Itonami wrote:

Religion sucks. Religion has been the base reason of 90% of all the wars we have ever had documentation of and the biggest cause of death over a period of time than anything else. Religion doesn't kill- it's people who are so intolerant of people having their own thoughts and opinions religiously that they kill and torture other people.

Stop fuckin arguing. Believe what you want. Just keep i mind that almost every single religion calls for peace and harmony and living together and all that good stuff, and every time you tell someone they're going to hell, or they're completely and totally wrong about their beliefs; you're one step closer to hell cause you're judging.. which is a no-no. I don't care what people believe; some people need and want religion in their life to keep themselves afloat. If you hate, kill, or inflict other harm upon any person or animal, then you are not mentally or emotionally sane enough to have religion in your life.

Personally, I was raised with a few religions floating around my house christian, hindu, scientology, blabla.. and I think the bible and all other books of religion are full of shit.

But I don't tell people they're gonna burn in hell or suffer having no virgins in heaven and blah blah for not believing what I do.
IMO: religion just sucks. no real reason to argue and insult other religions as long as you're confident and secure in what you personally think.

Religion is not a crutch. It is the path by which true knowledge of the self is attained.

Despite popular belief due to the literalisation of the bible, this does not entail practice of any religion's rituals or traditions, but rather learning from the text, which in itself, when read as it was intended, serves as a pillar; not of hope, but of truth, because it is the lessons that are meant to be understood - not the story.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Aby wrote:

Itonami wrote:

Religion sucks. Religion has been the base reason of 90% of all the wars we have ever had documentation of and the biggest cause of death over a period of time than anything else. Religion doesn't kill- it's people who are so intolerant of people having their own thoughts and opinions religiously that they kill and torture other people.

Stop fuckin arguing. Believe what you want. Just keep i mind that almost every single religion calls for peace and harmony and living together and all that good stuff, and every time you tell someone they're going to hell, or they're completely and totally wrong about their beliefs; you're one step closer to hell cause you're judging.. which is a no-no. I don't care what people believe; some people need and want religion in their life to keep themselves afloat. If you hate, kill, or inflict other harm upon any person or animal, then you are not mentally or emotionally sane enough to have religion in your life.

Personally, I was raised with a few religions floating around my house christian, hindu, scientology, blabla.. and I think the bible and all other books of religion are full of shit.

But I don't tell people they're gonna burn in hell or suffer having no virgins in heaven and blah blah for not believing what I do.
IMO: religion just sucks. no real reason to argue and insult other religions as long as you're confident and secure in what you personally think.

Religion is not a crutch. It is the path by which true knowledge of the self is attained.

Despite popular belief due to the literalisation of the bible, this does not entail practice of any religion's rituals or traditions, but rather learning from the text, which in itself, when read as it was intended, serves as a pillar; not of hope, but of truth, because it is the lessons that are meant to be understood - not the story.

dude i gain more and more respect for you each time you make a post...

Itonami · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3182 **Location:**

Aby wrote:

Religion is not a crutch. It is the path by which true knowledge of the self is attained.

Despite popular belief due to the literalisation of the bible, this does not entail practice of any religion's rituals or traditions, but rather learning from the text, which in itself, when read as it was intended, serves as a pillar; not of hope, but of truth, because it is the lessons that are meant to be understood - not the story.

From personal experience, I have to disagree. I have countless times heard stories on tv, in the newspaper, and from my family and friends in which the following is almost always said:

"If I didn't have my God to hold my hand I would have committed suicide a long time ago."
A lot of people use it as a crutch. I have never met someone who didn't use it as life support in some way.

Aby · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 1339 **Location:**

Itonami wrote:

Aby wrote:

Religion is not a crutch. It is the path by which true knowledge of the self is attained.

Despite popular belief due to the literalisation of the bible, this does not entail practice of any religion's rituals or traditions, but rather learning from the text, which in itself, when read as it was intended, serves as a pillar; not of hope, but of truth, because it is the lessons that are meant to be understood - not the story.

From personal experience, I have to disagree. I have countless times heard stories on tv, in the newspaper, and from my family and friends in which the following is almost always said:

"If I didn't have my God to hold my hand I would have committed suicide a long time ago."
A lot of people use it as a crutch. I have never met someone who didn't use it as life support in some way.

Because these people have done exactly what is expected of them: ignored the bible.

Anyone who actually understands the bible will tell you that there is no god outside of yourself.

JacksColon · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2018 **Location:**

nohunta wrote:

Say it again so i aqcuire your IP come to your house and murder you and your entire family for insulting the book of god. The bible isnt Bullshit you are.

wow, I seem to recall something in that holy book of your's that says murder is a bad thing :roll:

Shizume · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 78 **Location:**

Elvis never did no drugs! xDDDD

I found this rather amusing, im bookmarking this. x3

Exados · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 19 **Location:** heaven

revelation ftw?

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

lol Tell all the people that killed and died for their "lord" over the last 20 centuries that the Bible is just a path to true knowledge. We aren't talking about the Holy Grail here. Religion is and has always been man's first form of government. People are told what to do and how to live or face judgment from a god no one truly knows exists or not, and questioning it is conveniently punishable as well. Do as I say or burn in hell for eternity. Be obedient, and after a life of servitude you may be rewarded in DEATH by being allowed salvation from the fires of hell. Which is also something nobody really knows about.

I've been to Christian church tons of times. I know there are people out there who get a sense of security and happiness thinking they're escaping an eternity of pain and suffering by praising god. But God never wrote the Bible did he?

Laughing · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 84 **Location:**

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

LittleTom · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 638 **Location:** Life

Laughing wrote:

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Meh. I don't see why God couldn't have used evolution.

Aby · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 1339 **Location:**

LittleTom wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Meh. I don't see why God couldn't have used evolution.

See Family Guy.

LittleTom · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 638 **Location:** Life

Aby wrote:

LittleTom wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Meh. I don't see why God couldn't have used evolution.

See Family Guy.

Not sure what you're referencing there but I don't watch TV, and therefore will probably not be seeing family guy any time soon.

Midori · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3425 **Location:**

i believe in rib woman and zombies

redneck · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2342 **Location:**

Laughing wrote:

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Last I checked its a theory?

MasterKojito · **Posted:** Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:17 am

redneck wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Last I checked its a theory?

Wow, same here. :shock:

What Encyclopedia Edition do you have?

Silver0 · **Posted:** Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:18 am

redneck wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Last I checked its a theory?

ppl like you cant grip that there not important

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

MasterKojito wrote:

redneck wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Last I checked its a theory?

Wow, same here. :shock:

What Encyclopedia Edition do you have?

theory in science = fact
theory in everyday life = a hunch
learn the distinction and live by it. last i checked gravity was just a "theory" why the hell aren't i floating off into space?

MasterKojito · **Posted:** Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:27 am

Barotix wrote:

MasterKojito wrote:

redneck wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Last I checked its a theory?

Wow, same here. :shock:

What Encyclopedia Edition do you have?

theory in science = fact
theory in everyday life = a hunch
learn the distinction and live by it. last i checked gravity was just a "theory" why the hell aren't i floating off into space?

Becuase gravity is a prooved theory...

redneck · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2342 **Location:**

MasterKojito wrote:

Barotix wrote:

MasterKojito wrote:

redneck wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Last I checked its a theory?

Wow, same here. :shock:

What Encyclopedia Edition do you have?

theory in science = fact
theory in everyday life = a hunch
learn the distinction and live by it. last i checked gravity was just a "theory" why the hell aren't i floating off into space?

Becuase gravity is a prooved theory...

theory

noun
1. a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"
2. a tentative insight into the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices" [syn: hypothesis]
3. a belief that can guide behavior; "the architect has a theory that more is less"; "they killed him on the theory that dead men tell no tales"

Midori · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3425 **Location:**

evolution is still a theory (not sure why it still is though)

redneck · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2342 **Location:**

X-Lax wrote:

evolution is still a theory (not sure why it still is though)

In the American vernacular, "theory" often means "imperfect fact"--part of a hierarchy of confidence running downhill from fact to theory to hypothesis to guess. Thus the power of the creationist argument: evolution is "only" a theory and intense debate now rages about many aspects of the theory. If evolution is worse than a fact, and scientists can't even make up their minds about the theory, then what confidence can we have in it?

†erminal · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1138 **Location:**

Agreed with Ito, religion sucks.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

redneck wrote:

MasterKojito wrote:

Barotix wrote:

MasterKojito wrote:

redneck wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Last I checked its a theory?

Wow, same here. :shock:

What Encyclopedia Edition do you have?

theory in science = fact
theory in everyday life = a hunch
learn the distinction and live by it. last i checked gravity was just a "theory" why the hell aren't i floating off into space?

Becuase gravity is a prooved theory...

theory

noun
1. a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"
2. a tentative insight into the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices" [syn: hypothesis]
3. a belief that can guide behavior; "the architect has a theory that more is less"; "they killed him on the theory that dead men tell no tales"

#1 = scientific definition
#2 = layman's

science makes that distinction, but most people don't get it. every law in the sciences are in fact theories. the term you're looking for is hypothesis. Micro evolution is a proven theory, but humans most likely won't last long enough to view a serious retest of macro evolution unless; you consider the simple adaptations commonly made by people in everyday life, then you have Your "proof" of evolution in terms of the world of the large.

as i said learn to make the distinction between #1[science], and #2[layman] the term theory is only granted to hypothesis that have been put under rigorous testing and retesting, so please don't take the term theory lightly.

scientific theories are fact until another scientist or group of scientist finds a more suitable theory.
as a matter of fact Newtons Theory of Gravity was Debunked by the Late Albert Einstein ,ushering in the roots of theoretical physics, by; "discovering" or should i saw utilizing and proving [to a certain extent] his theory of relativity which is; Einstein's Theory of Gravity.

redneck · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2342 **Location:**

Barotix wrote:

redneck wrote:

MasterKojito wrote:

Barotix wrote:

MasterKojito wrote:

redneck wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Last I checked its a theory?

Wow, same here. :shock:

What Encyclopedia Edition do you have?

theory in science = fact
theory in everyday life = a hunch
learn the distinction and live by it. last i checked gravity was just a "theory" why the hell aren't i floating off into space?

Becuase gravity is a prooved theory...

theory

noun
1. a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"
2. a tentative insight into the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices" [syn: hypothesis]
3. a belief that can guide behavior; "the architect has a theory that more is less"; "they killed him on the theory that dead men tell no tales"

#1 = scientific definition
#2 = layman's

science makes that distinction, but most people don't get it. every law in the sciences are in fact theories. the term you're looking for is hypothesis. Micro evolution is a proven theory, but humans most likely won't last long enough to view a serious retest of macro evolution unless; you consider the simple adaptations commonly made by people in everyday life, then you have Your "proof" of evolution in terms of the world of the large.

as i said learn to make the distinction between #1[science], and #2[layman] the term theory is only granted to hypothesis that have been put under rigorous testing and retesting, so please don't take the term theory lightly.

scientific theories are fact until another scientist or group of scientist finds a more suitable theory.
as a matter of fact Newtons Theory of Gravity was Debunked by the Late Albert Einstein ,ushering in the roots of theoretical physics, by; "discovering" or should i saw utilizing and proving [to a certain extent] his theory of relativity which is; Einstein's Theory of Gravity.

Than what is natural/scientific law?

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

redneck wrote:

Barotix wrote:

redneck wrote:

MasterKojito wrote:

Barotix wrote:

MasterKojito wrote:

redneck wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Last I checked its a theory?

Wow, same here. :shock:

What Encyclopedia Edition do you have?

theory in science = fact
theory in everyday life = a hunch
learn the distinction and live by it. last i checked gravity was just a "theory" why the hell aren't i floating off into space?

Becuase gravity is a prooved theory...

theory

noun
1. a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"
2. a tentative insight into the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices" [syn: hypothesis]
3. a belief that can guide behavior; "the architect has a theory that more is less"; "they killed him on the theory that dead men tell no tales"

#1 = scientific definition
#2 = layman's

science makes that distinction, but most people don't get it. every law in the sciences are in fact theories. the term you're looking for is hypothesis. Micro evolution is a proven theory, but humans most likely won't last long enough to view a serious retest of macro evolution unless; you consider the simple adaptations commonly made by people in everyday life, then you have Your "proof" of evolution in terms of the world of the large.

as i said learn to make the distinction between #1[science], and #2[layman] the term theory is only granted to hypothesis that have been put under rigorous testing and retesting, so please don't take the term theory lightly.

scientific theories are fact until another scientist or group of scientist finds a more suitable theory.
as a matter of fact Newtons Theory of Gravity was Debunked by the Late Albert Einstein ,ushering in the roots of theoretical physics, by; "discovering" or should i saw utilizing and proving [to a certain extent] his theory of relativity which is; Einstein's Theory of Gravity.

Than what is natural/scientific law?

which Natural scientific law? you mean the theories? which theory??

redneck wrote:

So theory is a temporary fact that stands until it is proven wrong.

hmm why didn't i just type that instead of those paragraphs

redneck · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2342 **Location:**

Barotix wrote:

redneck wrote:

Barotix wrote:

redneck wrote:

MasterKojito wrote:

Barotix wrote:

MasterKojito wrote:

redneck wrote:

Laughing wrote:

Christians cause me no personal strife. Although I am a hard-lined atheist, the moral ideals that Christianity teaches are inherently good. The problem is when you have Fundamentalists (from which there has been a large surge as of late) that view the bible and it's horrendously mythical stories as pure and infallible truth.

Science and Logic have told us that there was no Adam and Eve, garden of eden, or an omniscient god. Evolution is a proven scientific fact, and the bible is the best-selling work of fiction ever published.

Last I checked its a theory?

Wow, same here. :shock:

What Encyclopedia Edition do you have?

theory in science = fact
theory in everyday life = a hunch
learn the distinction and live by it. last i checked gravity was just a "theory" why the hell aren't i floating off into space?

Becuase gravity is a prooved theory...

theory

noun
1. a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"
2. a tentative insight into the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices" [syn: hypothesis]
3. a belief that can guide behavior; "the architect has a theory that more is less"; "they killed him on the theory that dead men tell no tales"

#1 = scientific definition
#2 = layman's

science makes that distinction, but most people don't get it. every law in the sciences are in fact theories. the term you're looking for is hypothesis. Micro evolution is a proven theory, but humans most likely won't last long enough to view a serious retest of macro evolution unless; you consider the simple adaptations commonly made by people in everyday life, then you have Your "proof" of evolution in terms of the world of the large.

as i said learn to make the distinction between #1[science], and #2[layman] the term theory is only granted to hypothesis that have been put under rigorous testing and retesting, so please don't take the term theory lightly.

scientific theories are fact until another scientist or group of scientist finds a more suitable theory.
as a matter of fact Newtons Theory of Gravity was Debunked by the Late Albert Einstein ,ushering in the roots of theoretical physics, by; "discovering" or should i saw utilizing and proving [to a certain extent] his theory of relativity which is; Einstein's Theory of Gravity.

Than what is natural/scientific law?

which Natural scientific law? you mean the theories? which theory??

Edit- I actually opened my school textbook to find that natural law describes nature but not how nature behaves in that particular way.

So theory is a temporary fact that stands until it is proven wrong.

Overcome · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 180 **Location:**

Yawn, the only reason satanists call themselves satanists is so people think they worship satan. Gives em a good reason to tell people about there "view" (cause I wouldn't consider it a religion). Makes me laugh.

Good bye SRF the only thing you have done for me is realize that there are more ignorant people in the world than I though. Haha fuuck you thread creator.

Nuklear · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 3272 **Location:**

Aby wrote:

... there is no god outside of yourself.

Worth quoting.

Aby wrote:

... there is no god outside of yourself.

Worth quoting again.

devilti · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 775 **Location:** denver

hes so fucl{n byist.

i hate it when pl attack religion like that.
religion is good and really helps ppl.
but ppl fight over it so much.

ther should be respect for ppl who belive what they want to believe and him sayn dam before the word bible everytime is sic.

i just want to punch him

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